Rode in coworker's ford excursion

[thecoolnessrune]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: thecoolnessrune

Originally posted by: Throckmorton

Originally posted by: thecoolnessrune

Originally posted by: thomsbrain
I just smile because I know they're getting 5 MPG, and I can blow their fucking doors off and still get 30. People spend outrageous amounts of money on those big SUVs and the modifications, and I just have to laugh because they could be driving a BMW or Corvette, but instead they have to tip-toe around every corner and they cut themselves on the Fiesta-grade plastics every time they clamber up into their big phallus.

It's worth noting that you rarely see an old pickup or SUV with a lift kit. Hint: that's because they don't survive long before getting totaled.

I find laughs too.. But not at lift kits on trucks. But when people insist on coming back here on dirt roads after rains with Civics, Accords, Tauruses, and Camrys... It's laughable because some actually try it. In a matter of seconds they're on the side of the road or completely stuck. A lifted truck and a fast car do two different things. I don't expect a lifted truck to do 10 seconds in the quarter mile just as I dont expect a fast car to go over anything that isn't paved over and leveled (I can't be the only one who's seen the atrocity that is watching a small car go over a large speed bump).

To expect anything more out of either class is ignorance at its best. I don't know why people are stupid enough to really believe that their car is actually better because it's faster than a truck.. When an Accord can tow 8,000 lbs and (in the case of a lifted truck) drive through a river stream, get back to me. Just because other people like doing different things, doesn't mean they should be criticized for it.

A 10ft high full size truck doesn't do anything well, except waste fuel, kill people, and go through mud pits.

That one aspect right there makes it worthwhile to me.

And useless to the other 99.9% of people who own them.

I care why? It's America. I have other concerns than trying to pry out a buttplug hammered in by my own ego thinking that everyone else should do what I want.

 

[Throckmorton]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: thecoolnessrune

Originally posted by: Throckmorton

Originally posted by: thecoolnessrune

Originally posted by: thomsbrain
I just smile because I know they're getting 5 MPG, and I can blow their fucking doors off and still get 30. People spend outrageous amounts of money on those big SUVs and the modifications, and I just have to laugh because they could be driving a BMW or Corvette, but instead they have to tip-toe around every corner and they cut themselves on the Fiesta-grade plastics every time they clamber up into their big phallus.

It's worth noting that you rarely see an old pickup or SUV with a lift kit. Hint: that's because they don't survive long before getting totaled.

I find laughs too.. But not at lift kits on trucks. But when people insist on coming back here on dirt roads after rains with Civics, Accords, Tauruses, and Camrys... It's laughable because some actually try it. In a matter of seconds they're on the side of the road or completely stuck. A lifted truck and a fast car do two different things. I don't expect a lifted truck to do 10 seconds in the quarter mile just as I dont expect a fast car to go over anything that isn't paved over and leveled (I can't be the only one who's seen the atrocity that is watching a small car go over a large speed bump).

To expect anything more out of either class is ignorance at its best. I don't know why people are stupid enough to really believe that their car is actually better because it's faster than a truck.. When an Accord can tow 8,000 lbs and (in the case of a lifted truck) drive through a river stream, get back to me. Just because other people like doing different things, doesn't mean they should be criticized for it.

A 10ft high full size truck doesn't do anything well, except waste fuel, kill people, and go through mud pits.

That one aspect right there makes it worthwhile to me.

And useless to the other 99.9% of people who own them.

Going through mud is about the lamest thing you can do with an offroad vehicle. What sucks though, is those guys will use those trucks to destroy wetlands in Florida and other parts of the South, and just accept the fine as an entertainment expense.

 

[thecoolnessrune]

Originally posted by: Throckmorton

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: thecoolnessrune

Originally posted by: Throckmorton

Originally posted by: thecoolnessrune

Originally posted by: thomsbrain
I just smile because I know they're getting 5 MPG, and I can blow their fucking doors off and still get 30. People spend outrageous amounts of money on those big SUVs and the modifications, and I just have to laugh because they could be driving a BMW or Corvette, but instead they have to tip-toe around every corner and they cut themselves on the Fiesta-grade plastics every time they clamber up into their big phallus.

It's worth noting that you rarely see an old pickup or SUV with a lift kit. Hint: that's because they don't survive long before getting totaled.

I find laughs too.. But not at lift kits on trucks. But when people insist on coming back here on dirt roads after rains with Civics, Accords, Tauruses, and Camrys... It's laughable because some actually try it. In a matter of seconds they're on the side of the road or completely stuck. A lifted truck and a fast car do two different things. I don't expect a lifted truck to do 10 seconds in the quarter mile just as I dont expect a fast car to go over anything that isn't paved over and leveled (I can't be the only one who's seen the atrocity that is watching a small car go over a large speed bump).

To expect anything more out of either class is ignorance at its best. I don't know why people are stupid enough to really believe that their car is actually better because it's faster than a truck.. When an Accord can tow 8,000 lbs and (in the case of a lifted truck) drive through a river stream, get back to me. Just because other people like doing different things, doesn't mean they should be criticized for it.

A 10ft high full size truck doesn't do anything well, except waste fuel, kill people, and go through mud pits.

That one aspect right there makes it worthwhile to me.

And useless to the other 99.9% of people who own them.

Going through mud is about the lamest thing you can do with an offroad vehicle. What sucks though, is those guys will use those trucks to destroy wetlands in Florida and other parts of the South, and just accept the fine as an entertainment expense.

I do :thumbsup:

 

[Throckmorton]

Originally posted by: thecoolnessrune

Originally posted by: Throckmorton

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: thecoolnessrune

Originally posted by: Throckmorton

Originally posted by: thecoolnessrune

Just because other people like doing different things, doesn't mean they should be criticized for it.

A 10ft high full size truck doesn't do anything well, except waste fuel, kill people, and go through mud pits.

That one aspect right there makes it worthwhile to me.

And useless to the other 99.9% of people who own them.

Going through mud is about the lamest thing you can do with an offroad vehicle. What sucks though, is those guys will use those trucks to destroy wetlands in Florida and other parts of the South, and just accept the fine as an entertainment expense.

I do :thumbsup:

I can't believe you have the balls to say "Just because other people like doing different things, doesn't mean they should be criticized for it" when what you do is illegal and amounts to IRREVERSIBLY vandalizing public property that either belongs to every citizen of Georgia, or every American.

 

[iamwiz82]

Originally posted by: Throckmorton

Originally posted by: thecoolnessrune

Originally posted by: Throckmorton

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: thecoolnessrune

Originally posted by: Throckmorton

Originally posted by: thecoolnessrune

Just because other people like doing different things, doesn't mean they should be criticized for it.

A 10ft high full size truck doesn't do anything well, except waste fuel, kill people, and go through mud pits.

That one aspect right there makes it worthwhile to me.

And useless to the other 99.9% of people who own them.

Going through mud is about the lamest thing you can do with an offroad vehicle. What sucks though, is those guys will use those trucks to destroy wetlands in Florida and other parts of the South, and just accept the fine as an entertainment expense.

I do :thumbsup:

I can't believe you have the balls to say "Just because other people like doing different things, doesn't mean they should be criticized for it" when what you do is illegal and amounts to IRREVERSIBLY vandalizing public property that either belongs to every citizen of Georgia, or every American.

If your state was smart that would setup special areas off for this. Offroaders are normally quite conscious of this because they don't want to lose the privledge to go offroading. I know when we used to go out we were always aware of the property we were on and take measures to not trash anything.

Just because you saw some redneck doing donuts in the everglades doesn't mean every 4 wheeler is looking to trash the world.

 

[thecoolnessrune]

Originally posted by: iamwiz82

Originally posted by: Throckmorton

Originally posted by: thecoolnessrune

Originally posted by: Throckmorton

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: thecoolnessrune

Originally posted by: Throckmorton

Originally posted by: thecoolnessrune

Just because other people like doing different things, doesn't mean they should be criticized for it.

A 10ft high full size truck doesn't do anything well, except waste fuel, kill people, and go through mud pits.

That one aspect right there makes it worthwhile to me.

And useless to the other 99.9% of people who own them.

Going through mud is about the lamest thing you can do with an offroad vehicle. What sucks though, is those guys will use those trucks to destroy wetlands in Florida and other parts of the South, and just accept the fine as an entertainment expense.

I do :thumbsup:

I can't believe you have the balls to say "Just because other people like doing different things, doesn't mean they should be criticized for it" when what you do is illegal and amounts to IRREVERSIBLY vandalizing public property that either belongs to every citizen of Georgia, or every American.

If your state was smart that would setup special areas off for this. Offroaders are normally quite conscious of this because they don't want to lose the privledge to go offroading. I know when we used to go out we were always aware of the property we were on and take measures to not trash anything.

Just because you saw some redneck doing donuts in the everglades doesn't mean every 4 wheeler is looking to trash the world.

Seriously, the only place I off road with an intention of tearing stuff up (mudding) is in places that have been specified by the neighborhood as a place to go tear stuff up (Just as we have a "neighborhood" place to go shoot guns. It's not a public building or private land etc etc. It's just a place where the neighborhood guys got together, put some stuff up and said hey, you can go shoot your guns there if you like or hey, go see if you can get through that mud pit i made..

When we deer hunt etc., and have to go get a deer, we do everything in our power to preserve the land. We go *very* slowly in an effort to keep things as preserved as possible.

I don't know why people think its so impossible to have a person who likes big trucks and is responsible with it. By that mentality, there's no such things as a non egotistical Prius owner nor is there a non-snooty BMW driver.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: thecoolnessrune

Seriously, the only place I off road with an intention of tearing stuff up (mudding) is in places that have been specified by the neighborhood as a place to go tear stuff up (Just as we have a "neighborhood" place to go shoot guns. It's not a public building or private land etc etc. It's just a place where the neighborhood guys got together, put some stuff up and said hey, you can go shoot your guns there if you like or hey, go see if you can get through that mud pit i made..

When we deer hunt etc., and have to go get a deer, we do everything in our power to preserve the land. We go *very* slowly in an effort to keep things as preserved as possible.

I don't know why people think its so impossible to have a person who likes big trucks and is responsible with it. By that mentality, there's no such things as a non egotistical Prius owner nor is there a non-snooty BMW driver.

A 'neighborhood' spot is just a spot those that are like minded have squatted on. Just like the poster above mentioning wetlands areas in Florida. They are proper places just because a crowd has gathered.

It'd be like me saying some popular parking lots to screw around with your car are ok because 10-20 guys show up to do so.

The shooting guns part is a bit insane though.

 

[thecoolnessrune]

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: thecoolnessrune

Seriously, the only place I off road with an intention of tearing stuff up (mudding) is in places that have been specified by the neighborhood as a place to go tear stuff up (Just as we have a "neighborhood" place to go shoot guns. It's not a public building or private land etc etc. It's just a place where the neighborhood guys got together, put some stuff up and said hey, you can go shoot your guns there if you like or hey, go see if you can get through that mud pit i made..

When we deer hunt etc., and have to go get a deer, we do everything in our power to preserve the land. We go *very* slowly in an effort to keep things as preserved as possible.

I don't know why people think its so impossible to have a person who likes big trucks and is responsible with it. By that mentality, there's no such things as a non egotistical Prius owner nor is there a non-snooty BMW driver.

A 'neighborhood' spot is just a spot those that are like minded have squatted on. Just like the poster above mentioning wetlands areas in Florida. They are proper places just because a crowd has gathered.

It'd be like me saying some popular parking lots to screw around with your car are ok because 10-20 guys show up to do so.

The shooting guns part is a bit insane though.

Whatever floats your boat man, even the chief of police knows about it. Heck, the mayor of our town 30 miles out knows about it. It means nothing to me what you think about it

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: thecoolnessrune
Whatever floats your boat man, even the chief of police knows about it. Heck, the mayor of our town 30 miles out knows about it. It means nothing to me what you think about it

probably knows about your 15yo g/f too.

 

[exdeath]

Originally posted by: Throckmorton
People are morons. A vehicle like that serves no purpose. He's obviously not a true offroader otherwise a) he wouldn't have bought an Excursion and b) he wouldn't have put on an enormous lift. And that's a good thing-- If idiots like that actually did wheel their monstrosities, every Jeep trail would be closed down due to ecological damage caused by the "yeee haww" effect.

I got a lift installed on my Jeep this morning

It does have a purpose; to provide for the happiness of the owner.

 

[exdeath]

Originally posted by: thecoolnessrune
I care why? It's America. I have other concerns than trying to pry out a buttplug hammered in by my own ego thinking that everyone else should do what I want.

/thread

 

[Throckmorton]

Originally posted by: thecoolnessrune

Seriously, the only place I off road with an intention of tearing stuff up (mudding) is in places that have been specified by the neighborhood as a place to go tear stuff up (Just as we have a "neighborhood" place to go shoot guns. It's not a public building or private land etc etc. It's just a place where the neighborhood guys got together, put some stuff up and said hey, you can go shoot your guns there if you like or hey, go see if you can get through that mud pit i made..

When we deer hunt etc., and have to go get a deer, we do everything in our power to preserve the land. We go *very* slowly in an effort to keep things as preserved as possible.

I don't know why people think its so impossible to have a person who likes big trucks and is responsible with it. By that mentality, there's no such things as a non egotistical Prius owner nor is there a non-snooty BMW driver.

Then why did you say "I do" in response to my post about people destroying wetlands and with the intention to accept the fines as just a fee?

 

[Throckmorton]

Originally posted by: iamwiz82


If your state was smart that would setup special areas off for this. Offroaders are normally quite conscious of this because they don't want to lose the privledge to go offroading. I know when we used to go out we were always aware of the property we were on and take measures to not trash anything.

Just because you saw some redneck doing donuts in the everglades doesn't mean every 4 wheeler is looking to trash the world.

I 4-wheel myself

Here's a pic of my Jeep

I've been to some amazing places, the most awesome of which was here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPNPVncOtGk

And my WJ was completely stock at the time! I scraped the crossmember underneath that supports the transmission, but that was because of a foolish mistake. That's what real offroading is about-- challenges, and the reward of seeing an incredible amount of beautiful country... not destruction. The reason I get pissed at people who don't tread lightly is because I do, not because I'm some granola-munching crystal-wearing hippy.

 

[dug777]

Who cares it's as long as the vehicle is road legal?

 

[Throckmorton]

Originally posted by: dug777
Who cares it's as long as the vehicle is road legal?

If it's high enough, it may not be. There is plenty of reason to care, because if a vehicle lifted too AND weighs 8000lbs, it's a safety hazard to other drivers. You'll take the greenhouse off a Civic if you tbone it with one of these. Remember, these aren't Australians, they are Americans. They will purposely modify a truck to optimize killing power, gas burning, and nature crushing, not to go on expeditions and see the country.

 

[thecoolnessrune]

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: thecoolnessrune
Whatever floats your boat man, even the chief of police knows about it. Heck, the mayor of our town 30 miles out knows about it. It means nothing to me what you think about it

probably knows about your 15yo g/f too.

Several people do actually. Several have talked with her. Several more yet have received updates while I was up there. The mayor? Nah, while I do know him personally (he's a good man), I don't talk to him near enough to actually get the chance to talk to him about something like that. Though its possible that one of the people that know have told him..

 

[mooseracing]

Originally posted by: owlface
Someone who lifts a truck generally isn't smart enough to drop down the bumpers. I too wish the law was enforced.

That has nothing to do with it. Bumpers can't be simply lowered, they would have to be totally redesinged to be able to withstand the impact of them hanging low and no structureal support behind them. Kind of like plow brackets.

 

[StageLeft]

$5 diesel must make him hard.

Banning these big things is mostly a waste of time because they are comparitively rare in the grand scheme, but of course they should not be allowed. They lack functional bumpers and would roll over cars that are otherwise adhereing to certain predictable things in life and it is a fact that people do pretty damn badly in collisions with these things.

 

[DivideBYZero]

Originally posted by: exdeath

Originally posted by: thecoolnessrune
I care why? It's America. I have other concerns than trying to pry out a buttplug hammered in by my own ego thinking that everyone else should do what I want.

/thread

BWAHAHAHAHAHA!

So when you do anything that pisses off the majority or is a danger to society, you just chime <south park rabble voice> "OH, I'M SORRY, I THOUGHT THIS WAS AMERICA! ISN'T THIS AMERICA?!"</south park rabble voice>

Nice argument. :thumbsup:

 

[thecoolnessrune]

Originally posted by: DivideBYZero

Originally posted by: exdeath

Originally posted by: thecoolnessrune
I care why? It's America. I have other concerns than trying to pry out a buttplug hammered in by my own ego thinking that everyone else should do what I want.

/thread

BWAHAHAHAHAHA!

So when you do anything that pisses off the majority or is a danger to society, you just chime <south park rabble voice> "OH, I'M SORRY, I THOUGHT THIS WAS AMERICA! ISN'T THIS AMERICA?!"</south park rabble voice>

Nice argument. :thumbsup:

The majority of people hate semi's driving around them. They also feel they are a danger to society. So we should ban those too? Makes perfect sense :thumbsup:

I think in your constant laughing you got too dizzy to think straight.

 

[Throckmorton]

Originally posted by: thecoolnessrune

Originally posted by: DivideBYZero

Originally posted by: exdeath

Originally posted by: thecoolnessrune
I care why? It's America. I have other concerns than trying to pry out a buttplug hammered in by my own ego thinking that everyone else should do what I want.

/thread

BWAHAHAHAHAHA!

So when you do anything that pisses off the majority or is a danger to society, you just chime <south park rabble voice> "OH, I'M SORRY, I THOUGHT THIS WAS AMERICA! ISN'T THIS AMERICA?!"</south park rabble voice>

Nice argument. :thumbsup:

The majority of people hate semi's driving around them. They also feel they are a danger to society. So we should ban those too? Makes perfect sense :thumbsup:

I think in your constant laughing you got too dizzy to think straight.

Semis have normal height bumpers so they'll hit the side impact beams of a normal car. They also have a much lower accident rate because they are driven by professional drivers.
By your logic, we shouldn't have any safety regulations like bumper height, headlight angles, etc because some vehicles are dangerous anyway.

 

[thecoolnessrune]

Originally posted by: Throckmorton

Originally posted by: thecoolnessrune

Originally posted by: DivideBYZero

Originally posted by: exdeath

Originally posted by: thecoolnessrune
I care why? It's America. I have other concerns than trying to pry out a buttplug hammered in by my own ego thinking that everyone else should do what I want.

/thread

BWAHAHAHAHAHA!

So when you do anything that pisses off the majority or is a danger to society, you just chime <south park rabble voice> "OH, I'M SORRY, I THOUGHT THIS WAS AMERICA! ISN'T THIS AMERICA?!"</south park rabble voice>

Nice argument. :thumbsup:

The majority of people hate semi's driving around them. They also feel they are a danger to society. So we should ban those too? Makes perfect sense :thumbsup:

I think in your constant laughing you got too dizzy to think straight.

Semis have normal height bumpers so they'll hit the side impact beams of a normal car. They also have a much lower accident rate because they are driven by professional drivers.
By your logic, we shouldn't have any safety regulations like bumper height, headlight angles, etc because some vehicles are dangerous anyway.

The majority of lifted vehicles I've seen around here have bumpers that would easily touch the side impact beams of cars. I see no problem with getting rid of vehicles that pose and obvious threat. But just because the vehicle being lifted is a large SUV doesn't mean is should automatically be prejudiced against..

 

[iamwiz82]

Originally posted by: DivideBYZero

Originally posted by: exdeath

Originally posted by: thecoolnessrune
I care why? It's America. I have other concerns than trying to pry out a buttplug hammered in by my own ego thinking that everyone else should do what I want.

/thread

BWAHAHAHAHAHA!

So when you do anything that pisses off the majority or is a danger to society, you just chime <south park rabble voice> "OH, I'M SORRY, I THOUGHT THIS WAS AMERICA! ISN'T THIS AMERICA?!"</south park rabble voice>

Nice argument. :thumbsup:

If you use that logic our cars would be deemed unsafe as well. Tell me you haven't turned off DSC and had fun on city streets...

 

[0roo0roo]

Originally posted by: exdeath
Here we go again with "why do you need x" whiners again.

I thought this was a free market and not a communist society? Why should someone have to justify their needs to you or only buy things that you deem practical or necessary? Can one in the USA not buy things with his own income because he simply wants them?

What if they just want it and enjoy it?

Hate and be disgusted all you want, just live and let live.

I personally don't care for SUVs, and I agree some of the things people do to their cars are absolutely stupid.

But the fundamental principle here is whether or not people are free to pursue their own life, liberty, and happiness, and that applies to guns, SUVs, plasma TVs that nobody "needs", etc, as long as they aren't stealing or killing or otherwise depriving someone else the ability to pursue the same.

you don't shoot your gun through your neighbors yard.

on public roads these things are ridiculous hazards that renders all safety engineering done by the companies moot. i'm fine with people owning the things. if they were used like tractors...for specialized purposes. but they aren't, people raise them and use them to commute. freedom is fine, but a reckless disregard for your fellow man is not.

as for the idea that lawyers can make something right after someone you care about is killed by some jerkoff with a raised truck is absurd. there are limits to your freedom when it starts becoming a danger to others.

 

[Throckmorton]

Originally posted by: thecoolnessrune

Originally posted by: Throckmorton

Originally posted by: thecoolnessrune

Originally posted by: DivideBYZero

Originally posted by: exdeath

Originally posted by: thecoolnessrune
I care why? It's America. I have other concerns than trying to pry out a buttplug hammered in by my own ego thinking that everyone else should do what I want.

/thread

BWAHAHAHAHAHA!

So when you do anything that pisses off the majority or is a danger to society, you just chime <south park rabble voice> "OH, I'M SORRY, I THOUGHT THIS WAS AMERICA! ISN'T THIS AMERICA?!"</south park rabble voice>

Nice argument. :thumbsup:

The majority of people hate semi's driving around them. They also feel they are a danger to society. So we should ban those too? Makes perfect sense :thumbsup:

I think in your constant laughing you got too dizzy to think straight.

Semis have normal height bumpers so they'll hit the side impact beams of a normal car. They also have a much lower accident rate because they are driven by professional drivers.
By your logic, we shouldn't have any safety regulations like bumper height, headlight angles, etc because some vehicles are dangerous anyway.

The majority of lifted vehicles I've seen around here have bumpers that would easily touch the side impact beams of cars. I see no problem with getting rid of vehicles that pose and obvious threat. But just because the vehicle being lifted is a large SUV doesn't mean is should automatically be prejudiced against..

We aren't talking about vehicles with a reasonable and functional lift.