News Roe v. Wade overturned

[Fenixgoon]

Great, so you're in support of gun bans right? And foster system overhaul?

and an extensive social safety net. and universal pre-k. and universal healthcare.

 

[IronWing]

Granted I did interchange the use of words as in my thinking a medical abortion was the same as a medically life threatening abortion. I stated it incorrectly. No lie intended.

@fleshconsumed stated in his post that:

"No exceptions for rape, no exceptions for incest, and now no exception for medical emergencies."

And linked an article to back up his post.

From the article linked in his post:

"Texas has another law, passed in 2021, that will go into effect in the coming weeks which makes performing an abortion a felony punishable by up to life in prison. The ban makes an exception if a licensed physician determines that the woman faces a life-threatening physical condition."

So in reality, Texas law does allow abortion for a medical emergency. Unless that article in incorrect.

Edit: I think that Life In Prison for an abortion is way extreme and I do not agree with that at all.

The law allows for abortion in a very small subset of medical emergencies. Of course, with this law, that set will grow much larger than it needs to be as doctors have to allow treatable emergencies to progress to life threatening medical emergencies before intervening with proper treatment. This law is stupidly cruel, which is par for the course for conservative lawmakers.

 

[ivwshane]

Then we both are....

No, I can actually defend, explain, and change my opinions based on new information and facts. I also don’t make false equivalencies like you do. Prove me wrong though, explain yourself in the comment I quoted by you.

 

[sportage]

We can discuss abortion rights or the lack of, we can discuss insurrections, we can discuss the future of republicans and democrats but frankly in the end all discussion will hinge on November. We will see if voters really care about abortion or about insurrections or about the future of Trump or if voters really care about those who break the law. We will see if any of this is important to voters, well.... important enough to make a difference at the polls.
It is highly reasonable to assume that none of the aforementioned will have any impact on what voters do on election night. It could come down to simple realities such as money, prices, gas, and disposable income.
God forbid voters should face that most telling question.... ARE YOU BETTER OFF NOW THAN YOU WERE FOUR YEARS AGO?

 

[brycejones]

and an extensive social safety net. and universal pre-k. and universal healthcare.

Slow down, that all sounds like a communism. Children need to be protected from that at all costs. Otherwise you are taking away the incentive for them to pick the right parents. Sheesh people

 

[ch33zw1z]

Slow down, that all sounds like a communism. Children need to be protected from that all costs. Otherwise you are taking away the incentive for them to pick the right parents. Sheesh people

having shitty parents and being poor was gods will. Only heathens would argue otherwise. And we all know how good heathens are for the children.

 

[pauldun170]

Just to make it clear, the investigation is because the dr has yet to file a criminal report of the rape as reason to perform the abortion. They aren’t going after her just because she performed the abortion.

Indiana doctor who provided abortion services to 10-year-old rape victim reported procedure to health department, documents show

An Indiana doctor who said she recently helped a 10-year-old rape victim from Ohio get an abortion in her state reported the procedure to Indiana health officials within a required time frame, documents show, as the state's Republican attorney general has said authorities are investigating the...

amp.cnn.com

 

[dank69]

Republicans believe in Rule Of Law when it pushes their agenda.

Otherwise its "Fuck you got mine"

They believe in rule of law for "others." The law is to protect them from "others." Others have no rights. Only Republicans have rights.

 

[UNCjigga]

Pretty sure the AG is peeved that she discussed this case at all publicly—it would be much more convenient for GOP lawmakers to say cases like these don’t exist or are too rare and sweep them under the rug. Like, how dare she acknowledge that this girl even exists—nevermind that she was impacted by their shortsighted, unconstitutional trigger law within a week of Roe being overturned.

So now if she said anything publicly it’s all about finding a HIPAA violation or failure to notify authorities or something. And if there’s nothing the doc did wrong, they’ll just calvinball and change the rules anyway.

 

[Saylick]

They believe in rule of law for "others." The law is to protect them from "others." Others have no rights. Only Republicans have rights.

"Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect."

 

[eelw]

Indiana doctor who provided abortion services to 10-year-old rape victim reported procedure to health department, documents show

An Indiana doctor who said she recently helped a 10-year-old rape victim from Ohio get an abortion in her state reported the procedure to Indiana health officials within a required time frame, documents show, as the state's Republican attorney general has said authorities are investigating the...

amp.cnn.com

Okay good confirmation everything was done in timely matter. Just shows the incompetence of the AG and it was all a talking point. But here’s hoping the parents have a signed document to release the dr to allow to discuss this matter and squash the obvious move to the HIPAA violation.

 

[Pens1566]

Okay good confirmation everything was done in timely matter. Just shows the incompetence of the AG and it was all a talking point. But here’s hoping the parents have a signed document to release the dr to allow to discuss this matter and squash the obvious move to the HIPAA violation.

Yeah, sounds like the Dr did everything by the book here and the IN AG is off on a wild goose chase to score political points.

 

[nakedfrog]

The same people that have declared that a teenager who, under the guidance of a qualified mental health professional, wants to seek gender affirming care, cannot do so because they're not old enough to make that kind of decision at that age, because it will affect the rest of their life... will also declare that a ten year old child impregnated against her own will must carry that fetus, regardless of the risk to the child and the fetus, and the impact this will have on the remainder of that child's life (if she survives). And this is what they would call "freedom", "liberty", and "justice".

 

[K1052]

To the people who claim that Republicans don't want to and won't try to end freedom to travel:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1547618604723490817

 

[pcgeek11]

Great, so you're in support of gun bans right? And foster system overhaul?

I am in support of meaningful Gun Control such as:

Banning high capacity magazines.
Banning Ghost Guns.
Banning certain types of weapons.
Meaningful detailed background checks and waiting periods.
Age limits for purchasing, 21 years minimum for any gun.
Red Flag laws that are actually used and enforced.

Just for starters.


I am sure that the foster care system could use improvement, however I am not familiar enough to comment on this specific issue.

 

[nakedfrog]

To the people who claim that Republicans don't want to and won't try to end freedom to travel:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1547618604723490817

Just normal freedom stuff, that's all.

 

[eelw]

Good the lawyer for the dr has filed a cease and desist letter to the AG. And if they continue to lie, will file a defamation lawsuit

 

[Indus]

To the people who claim that Republicans don't want to and won't try to end freedom to travel:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1547618604723490817

Time to leave those shitholes is now.

In a way it reminds me of that movie.. Escape from New York Trumpistan.

 

[vi edit]

This is just going to continue happening. And it's fucking infuriating.

Call this what it is... punishing women for being women.

We don't give a shit about dead mothers. From limiting drugs that are used for legitimate cases to letting women die before the baby does... We are no longer a civilized society. We're just a shithole theocracy.

Abortion laws spark profound changes in other medical care

The Supreme Court's decision to let states outlaw most abortions is having profound repercussions in reproductive medicine as well as in other areas of medical care.

apnews.com

 

[DaaQ]

This is just going to continue happening. And it's fucking infuriating.

Call this what it is... punishing women for being women.

We don't give a shit about dead mothers. From limiting drugs that are used for legitimate cases to letting women die before the baby does... We are no longer a civilized society. We're just a shithole theocracy.

Abortion laws spark profound changes in other medical care

The Supreme Court's decision to let states outlaw most abortions is having profound repercussions in reproductive medicine as well as in other areas of medical care.

apnews.com

Or in the case of Ohio, punishing pre adolescent girls.

EDIT: Saying pre, is because I can't recall atm from working in this heat, if adolescent is pre puberty or if pre adolescent is the equivalent of pre puberty.

 

[shortylickens]

We're turning into a nazi country.

‘Have you recently had an abortion?’ Australian transiting through US questioned then deported

Madolline Gourley says she was on her way to Canada for a holiday when US immigration officials intervened

www.theguardian.com

 

[Zorba]

Okay good confirmation everything was done in timely matter. Just shows the incompetence of the AG and it was all a talking point. But here’s hoping the parents have a signed document to release the dr to allow to discuss this matter and squash the obvious move to the HIPAA violation.

It shows the AG of Indiana cares more about a piece of paper than protecting a 10 year-old rape victim. Hopefully if he is ever raped, he is denied any emergency care.

 

[Zorba]

Or in the case of Ohio, punishing pre adolescent girls.

EDIT: Saying pre, is because I can't recall atm from working in this heat, if adolescent is pre puberty or if pre adolescent is the equivalent of pre puberty.

Adolescence is while you are going through puberty, as this girl is. She would've started puberty at least a year ago to have become pregnant (on average), which is early but not crazy early.

First Menstruation: Average Age and Physical Signs

When will girls get their first period? The ages vary, but there are two signs of puberty that generally precede first menstruation.

www.contemporaryobgyn.net

 

[ch33zw1z]

I am in support of meaningful Gun Control such as:

Banning high capacity magazines.
Banning Ghost Guns.
Banning certain types of weapons.
Meaningful detailed background checks and waiting periods.
Age limits for purchasing, 21 years minimum for any gun.
Red Flag laws that are actually used and enforced.

Just for starters.


I am sure that the foster care system could use improvement, however I am not familiar enough to comment on this specific issue.

who’s the last person you voted for that supports these things

 

[cytg111]

I am in support of meaningful Gun Control such as:

Banning high capacity magazines.
Banning Ghost Guns.
Banning certain types of weapons.
Meaningful detailed background checks and waiting periods.
Age limits for purchasing, 21 years minimum for any gun.
Red Flag laws that are actually used and enforced.

Just for starters.


I am sure that the foster care system could use improvement, however I am not familiar enough to comment on this specific issue.

Dude you are a liberal…