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fskimospy

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No universal healthcare. Representatives who actively subvert democracy. Representatives who bow to the whims of large corporate interests. Poor public transportation infrastructure. Expensive telecommunications infrastructure. A president who attempted a coup and still maintains popular support among 1 if the 2 major political parties. Courts stripping away rights like bodily autonomy. 1 of 2 major political parties using racist scare tactics as primary means of garnering support. 1 of 2 major political parties actively disenfranchising voters.

Yeah, sure sounds like a paradise to me.
If you actually believe the two are the same I suggest you leave the US. Not because of that stupid ‘love it or leave it’ saying, but because that will amply demonstrate the difference. If you try to leave the US nobody cares. If you try to leave North Korea they shoot you. That one country feels it necessary to do that to keep people there tells you everything you need to know.
 

MtnMan

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If you actually believe the two are the same I suggest you leave the US. Not because of that stupid ‘love it or leave it’ saying, but because that will amply demonstrate the difference. If you try to leave the US nobody cares. If you try to leave North Korea they shoot you. That one country feels it necessary to do that to keep people there tells you everything you need to know.
And how close are we to a woman having to prove she is not pregnant to leave places like Texas, Alabama, and other red state? Or have be searched when entering to be sure they don't have any birth control or even condoms.
 

fskimospy

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And how close are we to a woman having to prove she is not pregnant to leave places like Texas, Alabama, and other red state? Or have be searched when entering to be sure they don't have any birth control or even condoms.
While the US has many, many problems it is not remotely the same as North Korea and the comparison is ridiculous.
 

Fenixgoon

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While the US has many, many problems it is not remotely the same as North Korea and the comparison is ridiculous.
The fact that we're even remotely headed in that direction is problematic enough.

Of course the US isn't North Korea. But it doesn't have to be to see that it's not the majestical place of freedom that conservatives espouse. And again, we're headed in the wrong general direction as a whole
 

MrSquished

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The fact that we're even remotely headed in that direction is problematic enough.

Of course the US isn't North Korea. But it doesn't have to be to see that it's not the majestical place of freedom that conservatives espouse. And again, we're headed in the wrong general direction as a whole
America is in deep shit but it's nothing like North Korea.

I do believe some conservatives would like to do their best to rule as oppressively as north Korea but we are nowhere near that.

There are also many amazing places to visit in America. Some of the best cities in the Northeast and west coast, the nature in the West and Northwest. Without having to go anywhere near the lunatic conservative bases.
 
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fskimospy

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While Rohan has many, many problems, it is not remotely the same as Minas Tirith and the comparison is ridiculous.

If you would like to explain in clear terms and specific examples how the US resembles North Korea I'm happy to hear them but this comparison is very dumb and progressives look dumb when they make it.
 

MrSquished

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If you would like to explain in clear terms and specific examples how the US resembles North Korea I'm happy to hear them but this comparison is very dumb and progressives look dumb when they make it.
It's definitely really dumb. More dumb than using the slogan Defund the Police, which was really really dumb
 

[DHT]Osiris

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If you would like to explain in clear terms and specific examples how the US resembles North Korea I'm happy to hear them but this comparison is very dumb and progressives look dumb when they make it.
I was creating an absurdist example of how while things may not be as bad, they might be closer in some respects than one would think.
 

woolfe9998

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You aren’t allowed to use hyperbole here, everything must be factual and serious!

You're allowed to say pretty much whatever you want. If you want to use hyperbole, go ahead. You just sound like the far right. Remember Trump's inauguration speech about "American carnage?" Always best to emulate people like him.
 
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Will all of you stupid fucking assholes stop derailing the thread to argue about the goddamn dumbest shit imaginable?

Or, he didn't want to interact with what would probably be a rather hostile set of students.

Yeah, most likely he's a chicken shit that doesn't want to face the repercussions for his behavior. So, typical right-winger, can't handle what they dish out.

He was probably concerned that his students know the Constitution better than him as well, and that they'd basically show the legal arguments that show how he's completely wrong. Then again, they can probably just put his own rulings up and show what a fraud he is.

Reminds me of the public speaking teacher I had in high school who said she will fail anyone that gives a speech on abortion because she knows more than them (and apparently doctors and anyone else). She was a despicable troll of a woman, worked with 2 other teachers to try to get a 3rd fired because they were all anti-abortion and the other teacher was pro-choice.
 
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Moonbeam

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The fact that we're even remotely headed in that direction is problematic enough.

Of course the US isn't North Korea. But it doesn't have to be to see that it's not the majestical place of freedom that conservatives espouse. And again, we're headed in the wrong general direction as a whole
The point, in my opinion, isn't that America is or isn't North Korea. It is the rage at conservatives that lies behind such accusations. The rage is real enough and easily seen as justifiable and that's where the danger lies. Rage easily conflates to sloppy justification and stereotypical thinking, the kind of thinking behind mob violence and pogroms. Anybody trying to clarify the wrongness of such facile justifications easily becomes the object of thrown flaming torches or burned on the cross.

Once the judicious application of reason is lost one can easily become what one most fears, an absolute exemplar of the self justified vigilante.
 

Moonbeam

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Will all of you stupid fucking assholes stop derailing the thread to argue about the goddamn dumbest shit imaginable?



Yeah, most likely he's a chicken shit that doesn't want to face the repercussions for his behavior. So, typical right-winger, can't handle what they dish out.

He was probably concerned that his students know the Constitution better than him as well, and that they'd basically show the legal arguments that show how he's completely wrong. Then again, they can probably just put his own rulings up and show what a fraud he is.

Reminds me of the public speaking teacher I had in high school who said she will fail anyone that gives a speech on abortion because she knows more than them (and apparently doctors and anyone else). She was a despicable troll of a woman, worked with 2 other teachers to try to get a 3rd fired because they were all anti-abortion and the other teacher was pro-choice.
I find that you have interesting things to say when you actually say them, but when you tell everybody else how worthless their points of views are it sort of makes me not want to listen. Would you care to tell us or me what it is you think we need to hear that is on topic? Alternatively, I would be willing to listen to why we shouldn't drift off topic in your opinion.
 
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pmv

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How is this guy a judge? He's a freaking religious nutjob

What a piece of trash. How can anyone pretend at this point that the Supreme Court is anything but an intensely political entity?

If you are mocking Boris Johnson _from the right_ you really are out there.

And as for his outrage at other countries commenting on US laws - I mean, of course, the US has never ever expressed any view on the laws of other countries, that has never happened.
 

cytg111

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And how close are we to a woman having to prove she is not pregnant to leave places like Texas, Alabama, and other red state? Or have be searched when entering to be sure they don't have any birth control or even condoms.

Women could engage in soft terrorism. In their place I think that's what I'd do.
In essence the plan is simple. Get your tubes tied. Run a massive campaign for young women to get their tubes tied. It may be reversible it may not and there is a good chance that you dont want it reversed anyway. The only logical thing for a woman is to get your tubes tied ASAP.
Run a campaign on that. Crowd fund it. Pay for the procedure. I bet it will get a ton of funding.
See how the American Taliban will react to the prospect of Texas going out of business in a timeframe of a generation.
Texas. Dead.
 

pmv

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Sounds as if Alito was essentially giving a 'rally the troops' speech to an audience of fellow conservative Catholics. Boosting morale by boasting how well things are going in destroying religious freedom in the US.
Not only being quite open about seeing himself as a political campaigner, but downright Orwellian that he casts his efforts to establish Conservative Christian supremacy as 'protecting religious freedom'.
 

eelw

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Women could engage in soft terrorism. In their place I think that's what I'd do.
In essence the plan is simple. Get your tubes tied.
Nah repugicans will just add this to the list on the contraceptive ban bill
 

HomerJS

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And how close are we to a woman having to prove she is not pregnant to leave places like Texas, Alabama, and other red state? Or have be searched when entering to be sure they don't have any birth control or even condoms.
theocratic fascism
 
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