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Muse

Lifer
Jul 11, 2001
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I agree but I was speculating about what kind of laws red states might enact in an attempt to limit/prevent women crossing state lines to get an abortion.

It doesn't take much imagination at all.
However, any woman doing so can say she went to see the wonderful attractions of the blue state they were visiting and as it so happened availed themselves of the services provided there, by the way.
 
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LightPattern

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Feb 18, 2013
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You mean Hilary, the person who received several million more votes than Trump?
I'm aware GOP candidates haven't won the popular vote for prez since 2004.
Trump WANTED to run against Hillary. With her questionably illegal activities and the sexism that still exists in our country she's the only one he stood a chance against. And DWS et al ensured Hillary would be that candidate.
 

sportage

Lifer
Feb 1, 2008
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What I find sickening is the hypocrisy from pro lifers. The pro lifers in my extended family all have partaken at some point and in some way with assisting with an abortion.

My Trumpie sister back in the 1980s PAID out of her own pocket $150 so that my youngest sister could get an abortion after she was knocked up by her loser worthless then boyfriend. And more recently my great niece, a single mother of two kids living in a two room rental, found herself knocked up by some guy she came across online. And she was so ignorant to later claim I DIDN'T KNOW YOU COULD GET PG HAVING SEX ONLY ONE TIME. And she already has two kids under 10 years.....

So when my niece needed an abortion, her grandmother talked her out of it. With grandma promising to be there and help with the pregnancy both financially and personally. So now my great niece has three young kids all from different fathers. No marriages, no support, nothing from the men involved. But grandma did help with renting a little house for my niece, and is paying for my great niece to continue nursing school.

I pointed out to all of them that AT LEAST when facing an unwanted pregnancy, that they all had A CHOICE. Now, they no longer will have that choice.
And I also pointed out that not every young woman has a built-in support group from the family. Not every woman facing an unwanted pregnancy has a rich grandmother able to pay the rent and pay for continued education.
Because of Trump, and his illegitimate court, thousands of young women.... girls.... will end up having back alley abortions. Exactly as in medieval times. America is becoming a medieval and religious fanatic nation very much like Iraq.

And as for Clarence Thomas, I don't want to sound racist but Clarence Thomas is the perfect example why slavery should have never been abolished. Can't we have at least one exception to the Emancipation Proclamation? That one exception being Clarence Thomas?
 
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LightPattern

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But even now I don't see Biden giving any reason to hope voting Democrat will fix anything about that - has he produced any serious proposal for reforming the Senate and the electoral college? Ending gerrymandering? Expanding the Court in order to make those things possible? Unless the whole system is substantially rebuilt the future is minority rule if not in perpetuity then for a very long time. If the Democrats think the answer is more people voting for them, shouldn't they be addressing the problems that render those votes ineffectual?

Have you watched Larry Lessig's TED talk on this subject? It's very very good and only 18 min long.

His whole presidential campaign (brief as it was in 2016) was premised on the idea of getting congress to pass legislation which would fix the fact that our Democracy is really only for the richest 1% (less really), and return control to the rest of us.
 

blackangst1

Lifer
Feb 23, 2005
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What I find sickening is the hypocrisy from pro lifers. The pro lifers in my extended family all have partaken at some point and in some way with assisting with an abortion.

My Trumpie sister back in the 1980s PAID out of her own pocket $150 so that my youngest sister could get an abortion after she was knocked up by her loser worthless then boyfriend. And more recently my great niece, a single mother of two kids living in a two room rental, found herself knocked up by some guy she came across online. And she was so ignorant to later claim I DIDN'T KNOW YOU COULD GET PG HAVING SEX ONLY ONE TIME. And she already has two kids under 10 years.....

So when my niece needed an abortion, her grandmother talked her out of it. With grandma promising to be there and help with the pregnancy both financially and personally. So now my great niece has three young kids all from different fathers. No marriages, no support, nothing from the men involved. But grandma did help with renting a little house for my niece, and is paying for my great niece to continue nursing school.

I pointed out to all of them that AT LEAST when facing an unwanted pregnancy, that they all had A CHOICE. Now, they no longer will have that choice.
And I also pointed out that not every young woman has a built-in support group from the family. Not every woman facing an unwanted pregnancy has a rich grandmother able to pay the rent and pay for continued education.
Because of Trump, and his illegitimate court, thousands of young women.... girls.... will end up having back alley abortions. Exactly as in medieval times. America is becoming a medieval and religious fanatic nation very much like Iraq.

And as for Clarence Thomas, I don't want to sound racist but Clarence Thomas is the perfect example why slavery should have never been abolished. Can't we have at least one exception to the Emancipation Proclamation? That one exception being Clarence Thomas?

Thats alot of kids killed in your family. And the bolded is a lie. The overturn of RVW didnt outlaw abortion.
 

Wreckem

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Sep 23, 2006
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Texas GQP is already working on legislation to make it a criminal act to get an abortion in another state. As well as make it a criminal offense for people/companies to assist people getting an abortion in another state.
 
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Wreckem

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Sep 23, 2006
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Unfortunately woman are going to have to deal with this type BS in some states. It is just wrong that pharmacists are preventing treatment of woman with miscarriages.

I had a miscarriage on Wednesday. A pharmacist in MO refused to fill my medication.

My wife had a missed miscarriage recently. We found out during an ultra sound at 12 weeks similar to the person in that post. The Dr. legally prescribed medication(the same needed for a medication abortion) to induce the evacuation of the embryo and tissue.

The pharmacy kept asking my wife about having a procedure, having an abortion etc, which they had no right to ask about anything, and wouldn’t fill the prescription. It took several days and more documentation from the Doctors office get the script filled. This was a huge invasion of privacy at an incredibly difficult time. We are told we would never have kids 8 years ago and we unexpectedly became pregnant and found out a few days after my 40th birthday. Last thing we needed was this bullshit created by thhe state of Texas. Fucking idiots fail to realize a miscarriage is medically called an abortion in patient records. Just kicking/adding insults to already traumatized people.

And for those that say life begins at conception. That’s not based on anything other than your Christian religious fiction. There is no scientific basis that shows life begins at fertilization or conception. Fuck all you conservative fucks.
 
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Jaskalas

Lifer
Jun 23, 2004
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I genuinely do not understand what you are talking about. Are you saying the 14th amendment isn’t part of the constitution?

Are you saying the sky isn't blue?

The 14th has no relevance to this subject. It exists to protect freed slaves after the civil war.
You want to go on about equal protection, okay, and what is the discrimination? There isn't any.

The sky is blue, and the 14th exists. You still have no point as you haven't even made an argument.

My point was that SCOTUS said subsequent legislation could be used to inform their decision when it came to the 14th amendment but said subsequent legislation could not be used for the 2nd amendment. That they were analyzing abortion in regards to the 14th amendment is irrelevant. Both amendments have equal standing.

A State law violated the 2nd and was struck down.
What State law violated the 14th?
 
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MrSquished

Lifer
Jan 14, 2013
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I hope they go after contraception and gay marriage. Thomas stated it and some of the other theocratic fascists seemed to be open to it.

If there are free and fair elections still at that point, it will backfire on them badly.
 

DaaQ

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My wife had a missed miscarriage recently. We found out during an ultra sound at 12 weeks similar to the person in that post. The Dr. legally prescribed medication(the same needed for a medication abortion) to induce the evacuation of the embryo and tissue.

The pharmacy kept asking my wife about having a procedure, having an abortion etc, which they had no right to ask about anything, and wouldn’t fill the prescription. It took several days and more documentation from the Doctors office get the script filled. This was a huge invasion of privacy at an incredibly difficult time. We are told we would never have kids 8 years ago and we unexpectedly became pregnant and found out a few days after my 40th birthday. Last thing we needed was this bullshit created by thhe state of Texas. Fucking idiots fail to realize a miscarriage is medically called an abortion in patient records. Just kicking/adding insults to already traumatized people.

And for those that say life begins at conception. That’s not based on anything other than your Christian religious fiction. There is no scientific basis that shows life begins at fertilization or conception. Fuck all you conservative fucks.
Sorry you had to deal with that, yea Pharmacists, think they are the know all end all, but crank that shit out to old people to sell to pay their bills.

Reference South Park and the Assisted living home episode, basically pertaining to opioids and the "head Bitch"

I can't remember what the German ceramics are called.
 

DaaQ

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I hope they go after contraception and gay marriage. Thomas stated it and some of the other theocratic fascists seemed to be open to it.

If there are free and fair elections still at that point, it will backfire on them badly.
CT will de legitimize his own marriage. Full stop.
 

UNCjigga

Lifer
Dec 12, 2000
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GOP state office candidate (now ex-candidate) and valiant free speech defender physically attacks his political opponent after she speaks at a Dobbs v. Jackson protest rally.

Bonus: Of course he’s a cop and she’s black.


I’m sure antifa made him do it.
 
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fskimospy

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Mar 10, 2006
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Are you saying the sky isn't blue?

The 14th has no relevance to this subject. It exists to protect freed slaves after the civil war.
You want to go on about equal protection, okay, and what is the discrimination? There isn't any.

The sky is blue, and the 14th exists. You still have no point as you haven't even made an argument.



A State law violated the 2nd and was struck down.
What State law violated the 14th?
I’m still confused as to your argument here. It doesn’t seem to make any sense or have anything to do with my point.
 

kage69

Lifer
Jul 17, 2003
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If pregnancy is God's will, then so is your limp dick, time to ban viagra.

While I agree in principle, maybe we shouldn't

This part in particular stuck with me "They found that the people (mostly men) who took sildenafil were *69% less likely to develop AD over 6 years than those who did not take the drug. This association between sildenafil and AD held after adjusting for sex, age, and other diseases and conditions."

To me that sounds too valuable to ban, lot of potential there most likely and fewer old guys with AD is a good thing. How about women just start completely avoiding men who subscribe to this kind of fundie nonsense. Less Lysistrata, more remove the assholes from your lives in every possible way.


*nice
 
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shortylickens

No Lifer
Jul 15, 2003
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Texas GQP is already working on legislation to make it a criminal act to get an abortion in another state. As well as make it a criminal offense for people/companies to assist people getting an abortion in another state.
Hopefully someone with half a brain will recognize that as unconstitutional and stop it.
The republicans today have a NASTY habit of violating the constitution then telling people "take it to the supreme court" and I am fucking sick of it.
 

Bitek

Lifer
Aug 2, 2001
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You say this like the GOP didn't fucking cheat their way into getting this.

Oh, I fully grant that GOP had hustled, swindled and plotted for decades to get the seats and get the agenda set to pass this.

Rooking Obama out of Scalia's replacement, getting Kennedy to retire (meanwhile RGB held on way too long)

Lining up an the state cases and laws in prep for this, and especially laser focusing their voters and presidential agenda on SCOTUS control. The pipeline of judges they built..

A few outright cheats, but a lot of plain outmaneuvering.
 
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