Rome 2: Total war is coming!

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Mr. Pedantic

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Feb 14, 2010
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It would be fun.

But, I want something specific this time, I'm not sure if the technology is "ready" for it, or if it will be created to reach such a goal. I want more than the first line of infantry to fight. I want every single one of my soldiers to chaotically mix in within the enemy's ranks and infantry columns as the battle progresses. If that can be done, it will feel a true sequel, otherwise... it'll be a graphical revamp and not much else.

We know that time period very well by now and of course the first Rome: TW was very successful already back then. If they intend to create a sequel to it, it should be a quantum technological leap, in my opinion. Make sure the A.I. is "good", make sure the strategy map A.I. and diplomacy decisions aren't dumb and make sure that my soldiers aren't stuck on ladders during a siege.

Time will tell, but I'm not expecting much really, it does have potential though.

That's not really how Romans, or any other organized army of the era, fought.
 

BladeVenom

Lifer
Jun 2, 2005
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It wasn't until Empire that I became really engrossed in the series, however the technical issues and brain-dead AI eventually forced me to quit it for good.

They need to put some serious effort into the AI, and it not be an afterthought like it has usually been. I want a smarter AI, more than I want prettier graphics.
 

carling220

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Dec 16, 2011
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Loved Rome, Med 2 and even Empire.

However, Shogun 2 I didn't like, but havn't gave much time to be fair. Felt out of control, usually TW games the controls are second nature. It was presented differently didn't get to grips with it.
 

Nintendesert

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Mar 28, 2010
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It would be fun.

But, I want something specific this time, I'm not sure if the technology is "ready" for it, or if it will be created to reach such a goal. I want more than the first line of infantry to fight. I want every single one of my soldiers to chaotically mix in within the enemy's ranks and infantry columns as the battle progresses. If that can be done, it will feel a true sequel, otherwise... it'll be a graphical revamp and not much else.

We know that time period very well by now and of course the first Rome: TW was very successful already back then. If they intend to create a sequel to it, it should be a quantum technological leap, in my opinion. Make sure the A.I. is "good", make sure the strategy map A.I. and diplomacy decisions aren't dumb and make sure that my soldiers aren't stuck on ladders during a siege.

Time will tell, but I'm not expecting much really, it does have potential though.




How is chaotically mixing with the other army while in combat an upgrade or progression??

You realize that no combat was fought that way during Roman times... that's some Hollywood bullshit. Romans and before that Greeks rolled over their enemies due to tight well trained formations of troops.

If you want intermingled chaos like that you need a different time period, something not related to warfare and perhaps something like Dancefloor Revolution..
 

irishScott

Lifer
Oct 10, 2006
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Loved Rome, Med 2 and even Empire.

However, Shogun 2 I didn't like, but havn't gave much time to be fair. Felt out of control, usually TW games the controls are second nature. It was presented differently didn't get to grips with it.

What faction did you start with? They have varying difficulty levels in terms of initial challenge, and if you start with one of the harder ones without some experience it does get overwhelming.

I'd recommend the Shimazu. They're about the most straightforward (no one behind them to worry about, specialize in Katana Samurai).

Honestly though I'm kind of the opposite. I liked Rome and Medieval 2, but found quirks in both that irked me. Empire was an awesome concept, but a bug-fest that to this day is not completely ironed out. In all of the above cases I repeatably got my ass kicked on harder difficulty and it took considerable time for me to figure them out. Shogun 2 however I slipped right into with a little examination and basic trial/error.
 

TehMac

Diamond Member
Aug 18, 2006
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Keep in mind that the PC PowerPlay screenshot is from Rome Total War I.

Maybe it's just symbolic, but who knows.

CA is going to be announcing something at Rezzed in July so that could be cool.
 

Northern Lawn

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May 15, 2008
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CA is going to be announcing something at Rezzed in July so that could be cool.

ah crap. I thought it was going to be released in July. So are we talking about a game that will be released in a year or two? If so, whoopdeedoo.
 

Bateluer

Lifer
Jun 23, 2001
27,730
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Hope they can recapture the series glory days, it peaked with Medieval 2. Empire and Shogun were terrible. :/ The Roman era is my favorite.
 

Zenoth

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Jan 29, 2005
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Wouldn't be realistic, at least for the Romans. There would obviously be a little mixing, but most Roman units where trained to hold their formation and cover each other, that was their main fundamental strength. IIRC from my military history class the basis was the next evolution of phalanx warfare. Same basic principle, but swords/javelins allowed for more versatility than long-ass spears.

Yeah... I don't want a simulation.

I just want units to mix in, I want action, I want to have fun watching the battles. I'm tired of watching my men from the second row back to the last one standing still and spears pointing forward and waiting their turn. I know it wouldn't be "realistic", and that's exactly my point.
 

TehMac

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Aug 18, 2006
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ah crap. I thought it was going to be released in July. So are we talking about a game that will be released in a year or two? If so, whoopdeedoo.

Have you not been following how marketing works in the gaming space?

It's not like Apple, who announce a re-iteration of current product lineup every conference and then release the product in September.

Almost every game with the exception of CoD is announced a year and a half before release.
 

TehMac

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Aug 18, 2006
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Hope they can recapture the series glory days, it peaked with Medieval 2. Empire and Shogun were terrible. :/ The Roman era is my favorite.

Disagree. I don't know how people think Med 2 was in any way a quality experience, but Empire was great.
 

irishScott

Lifer
Oct 10, 2006
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Disagree. I don't know how people think Med 2 was in any way a quality experience, but Empire was great.

When CA gets around to fixing the simple if-statement chain that governs whether I can repair walls or not, I'll consider Empire "great".
 

Anteaus

Platinum Member
Oct 28, 2010
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When CA gets around to fixing the simple if-statement chain that governs whether I can repair walls or not, I'll consider Empire "great".

I agree with you about Empire. The game was pretty fubar in some crazy ways, but even then I still felt pulled in. I think we've all played a game or two that were considered mediocre or even poor from any critical standpoint yet had very positive experiences with. I've owned every TW released and Empire is hands down my favorite, even with all of the problems. I definitely wouldn't call it great though, but for me it's more fun than the rest.
 

Skott

Diamond Member
Oct 4, 2005
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Our luck it will turn out to be Rome Total War 1.7 (1.6 was the last official RTW patch) They'll just upgrade some graphics and fix some bugs.

Edit: I wouldn't mind seeing a Mongol Empire Total War or a new Alexander Total War.
 

Bateluer

Lifer
Jun 23, 2001
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Disagree. I don't know how people think Med 2 was in any way a quality experience, but Empire was great.

Heh, Medieval 2 was better in pretty much every way but visuals compared to Empire. I'm still pissed at forking over 50 bucks for the preorder for that junk. Passed on its expansion, and got shafted again with Shogun 2 with a ten dollar price tag from Amazon. Passed on its expansion as well.

CA is going to have to deliver this time around.
 

Red Storm

Lifer
Oct 2, 2005
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Shogun 2 was just weird, I couldn't get into it. Did not like the campaign map at all. Medieval 2 was my favorite, if only because of the time period. Empire's campaign map was good, but things get a little bland when gunpowder enters the fray IMHO.
 

Nintendesert

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Mar 28, 2010
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I think Shogun II did deliver. It is pretty awesome, best part for me though was the multiplayer. Me and my brother had wanted to play multiplayer campaigns since the first medieval game. A Rome 2 with multiplayer would be simply epic. I hope they announce Rome 2.
 

TehMac

Diamond Member
Aug 18, 2006
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either way, I doubt it's actually Rome 2. CA said they were staying away from sequels after Shogun 2, and Rome 2 is very sequelly so I'm thinking it may be a new IP around the same era.
 

boxleitnerb

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Rome was one of their most highly acclaimed games. From a economic perspective, it would be wise to release Rome 2. I think it would be very successful, even more so than Shogun 2.
 
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