And I will have the one with the largest number of cores, or maybe more than one.Not sure when, but they'll probably kick some arse!
People are speculating that perhaps at the Hot Chips conference this month AMD will announce them. August I believe was when they did the previous announcement too, so makes sense.
Perhaps, though they will be presenting on Zen2, and next gen TR would be based on Zen2, so I don't see why they couldn't sneak in an exciting implementation of Zen2 along the way. I guess we'll see.Hot Chips is not for product announcements. There will be a Zen2 presentation but it will not contain release dates, pricing, or anything else like that, and I doubt next-gen TR will be mentioned in it at all. HC is about the technical program; it is not CES.
I just looked up the price on the 8280l they compared to. $21k for 28 cores, or $7k for 64 cores. Is there any doubt what a reasonable CEO should buy ?$7K for a 64 core part. GG
https://www.anandtech.com/show/14724/the-amd-epyc-rome-launch-live-blog
I just looked up the price on the 8280l they compared to. $21k for 28 cores, or $7k for 64 cores. Is there any doubt what a reasonable CEO should buy ?
Reasonable CEOs buy Xeon Gold 5218 for ~$1250, those halo parts from AMD/Intel are not interesting to most actual server buyers.
Add to this, in enterprise market ( i assume most others) your almost always I/O or memory limited before CPU limited, So mid range CPU's with the most GB of memory per $ ( can vary depending on dimm size and type) and populating all memory channels is almost always the best choice.Reasonable CEOs buy Xeon Gold 5218 for ~$1250, those halo parts from AMD/Intel are not interesting to most actual server buyers.
But there Is no doubt that AMD will have interesting offerings with 24-32C in same ballpark of price, except with more I/O and memory.
16 cores for $2000 (I looked it up, but maybe corp discounts ??)Reasonable CEOs buy Xeon Gold 5218 for ~$1250, those halo parts from AMD/Intel are not interesting to most actual server buyers.
But there Is no doubt that AMD will have interesting offerings with 24-32C in same ballpark of price, except with more I/O and memory.
Reasonable CEOs buy Xeon Gold 5218 for ~$1250, those halo parts from AMD/Intel are not interesting to most actual server buyers.
But even at the same price, the EPYC 2 is lower power consumption, which is lower AC cost. 1/2 the power is 1/4th the electric bill (I know that for sure, in my house)The pricing gets murky because Intel OEMs don't pay anywhere near the list price; while AMD has said that their list pricing is closer to what they are actually charging. Whether that's actually true, we can't really know.
I'm sure the Cloud guys are getting a good deal on Rome.
16 cores for $2000 (I looked it up, but maybe corp discounts ??)
But AMDs first gen 16 core is $908 (newegg) but corp can get even cheaper. So why do you say "Reasonable CEOs buy Xeon Gold 5218 for ~$1250" when AMD beats them in price and performance for even less than what you quoted ?
And 64 cores for 7k ? Also there is the power usage which is as important for business. Both in normal power usage an AC cost. I doubt your logic.
Badly reasonnable and uninformed, eventually..
Three of these 16C Xeons cost as much as a 48C Rome, with three full systems as added cost for the Xeons...
Is the siege mentality still required for AMD fans? Honestly they deliver good product at high end prices, there are is no free stuff in their price list.
I was just pointing out that noone is actually buying those 28 or 64C monsters, for average server sale there are always sweet spots and before Rome that spot was that Xeon.
P.S. before pointing out the "obvious" about pricing revolution, consider that noone is paying list prices, If my company isn't You can bet a farm that others get great deals too. Expect even greater deals from Intel now