Romney promises good times for his oil buddies

dmcowen674

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8-23-2012

http://news.yahoo.com/romney-says-us-energy-independence-achievable-165657545.html

Romney says US energy independence is achievable



Republican Mitt Romney pledged Thursday to create 3 million jobs and more than $1 trillion in revenue by ramping up offshore oil drilling and giving states more control over energy production on federal land.


The cornerstone of Romney's plan is opening up more areas for offshore oil drilling, including in the mid-Atlantic, where it is currently banned. He also wants to give states the power to establish all forms of energy production on federal lands, a significant shift in current policy that could face strong opposition in Congress.


His proposals make little mention of renewable sources of energy, like wind and solar, backed by President Barack Obama.



Romney has deep ties to big oil and raised more than $7 million from industry executives during a campaign fundraiser in Texas earlier this week.


Romney's plan focuses heavily on boosting domestic oil production, including approving the Keystone XL pipeline that would run from Canada to U.S. refineries in Texas.


The proposal would establish a new five-year leasing plan for offshore oil production that "aggressively opens" new areas for drilling, starting with the coasts of Virginia and North Carolina. Virginia's Republican Gov. Bob McDonnell has pushed to expand offshore drilling as a boost to Virginia's economy.


Obama campaign spokeswoman Lis Smith called Romney's energy plan "backward."


"This isn't a recipe for energy independence," Smith said. "It's just another irresponsible scheme to help line the pockets of big oil while allowing the U.S to fall behind and cede the clean energy sector to China."


The president told donors in New York Wednesday night that under his administration, dependence on foreign oil has gone below 50 percent for the first time in 13 years.
 

hal2kilo

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8-23-2012

http://news.yahoo.com/romney-says-us-energy-independence-achievable-165657545.html

Romney says US energy independence is achievable



Republican Mitt Romney pledged Thursday to create 3 million jobs and more than $1 trillion in revenue by ramping up offshore oil drilling and giving states more control over energy production on federal land.


The cornerstone of Romney's plan is opening up more areas for offshore oil drilling, including in the mid-Atlantic, where it is currently banned. He also wants to give states the power to establish all forms of energy production on federal lands, a significant shift in current policy that could face strong opposition in Congress.


His proposals make little mention of renewable sources of energy, like wind and solar, backed by President Barack Obama.



Romney has deep ties to big oil and raised more than $7 million from industry executives during a campaign fundraiser in Texas earlier this week.


Romney's plan focuses heavily on boosting domestic oil production, including approving the Keystone XL pipeline that would run from Canada to U.S. refineries in Texas.


The proposal would establish a new five-year leasing plan for offshore oil production that "aggressively opens" new areas for drilling, starting with the coasts of Virginia and North Carolina. Virginia's Republican Gov. Bob McDonnell has pushed to expand offshore drilling as a boost to Virginia's economy.


Obama campaign spokeswoman Lis Smith called Romney's energy plan "backward."


"This isn't a recipe for energy independence," Smith said. "It's just another irresponsible scheme to help line the pockets of big oil while allowing the U.S to fall behind and cede the clean energy sector to China."


The president told donors in New York Wednesday night that under his administration, dependence on foreign oil has gone below 50 percent for the first time in 13 years.

Why would oil companies give a flying F about making us energy independent. All they care about is how much profit they can make. As soon as all you clowns recognize that, then we can stop listening to oil companies about energy policy for our country.
 

dmcowen674

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Why would oil companies give a flying F about making us energy independent. All they care about is how much profit they can make. As soon as all you clowns recognize that, then we can stop listening to oil companies about energy policy for our country.

What?

Romney and his buds only have the best interests of the U.S. at heart.
 

nehalem256

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Apr 13, 2012
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Obama energy bad, Romney energy good

Lets see what will create more jobs in America

Building wind mills in china

or

Drilling for oil in America

:hmm:

Why would oil companies give a flying F about making us energy independent. All they care about is how much profit they can make. As soon as all you clowns recognize that, then we can stop listening to oil companies about energy policy for our country.

Because they can make a lot of money while doing it?
 

Matt1970

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Remember, according to Obhama drilling for oil is not the solution for high oil prices.
 

Fern

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I'm perfectly fine with more domestic drilling, but I wish more politicians would pay attention to T. Boone Pickens and his ideas regarding natural gas.

Fern
 

dmcowen674

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Remember, according to Obama drilling for oil is not the solution for high oil prices.

Links, proof that drilling for oil is the answer for high oil prices?

You and your buds constantly remind us that it's a global market.

The global market is running the oil high with record oil inventories.

Since we have record inventories how will even more oil bring prices down?

Links, proof?
 

Matt1970

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Links, proof that drilling for oil is the answer for high oil prices?

You and your buds constantly remind us that it's a global market.

The global market is running the oil high with record oil inventories.

Since we have record inventories how will even more oil bring prices down?

Links, proof?

Simple supply and demand. Speculators have a hard time driving the price up if you flood the market with oil.
 

hal2kilo

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Links, proof that drilling for oil is the answer for high oil prices?

You and your buds constantly remind us that it's a global market.

The global market is running the oil high with record oil inventories.

Since we have record inventories how will even more oil bring prices down?

Links, proof?

This. Now I think I'll shoot myself for agreeing with Dave.
 

jackstar7

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And prices are where compared to 6 years ago?

I'm seeing $40-60/barrel around that time. Today: over $90.
 

Matt1970

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And prices are where compared to 6 years ago?

I'm seeing $40-60/barrel around that time. Today: over $90.

If you don't do anything with supply then you allow speculators to influence prices.

Either way 6 years later we haven't done shit and prices are through the roof.
 

Iron Wolf

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His proposals make little mention of renewable sources of energy, like wind and solar, backed by President Barack Obama.

Because we all know how successful Obama's green energy initiatives have been, amirite? Stupid article.
 

Fern

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Links, proof that drilling for oil is the answer for high oil prices?

You and your buds constantly remind us that it's a global market.

The global market is running the oil high with record oil inventories.

Since we have record inventories how will even more oil bring prices down?

Links, proof?

Dave, seems to me you are strongly suggesting that the normal demand/supply function is not working here. I.e., oil prices are being artificially supported.

What is the cause of this artificial price support?

Is it collusion and price fixing?

T. Boone Pickens made some remarks this morning (he was on an early morning news show today). He said the Saudis told him they need about $97 per barrel to fund the Kingdom. He said the Iranians told him they need about $120. If so, those are good indications oil prices are artificially high.

Presumably, those number are based on the respective countries production capability. Otherwise, if the price dropped they could just make it up with additional production. I'm sure their oil production could be increased, but I don't think by much.

So, the question is what would happen if domestic production was opened up and supply increased substantially? Could OPEC survive the pressure of increased production from a non-OPEC country, or would their price fixing be 'busted'? Would those regimes fail? Assuming they were able to keep the price high they would still fall short of their needed revenue because US oil would cut into their sales. Same price but less barrels sold means revenue shortfall.

Even if Romney offered US oil producers new claims would they aggressively produce? If they were in on the price fixing I think not. They would have to produce more to just make the same amount of revenue. OTOH, I've seen indications that US producers would drill more as long as the profit was there. I.e., as long as extraction costs were sufficiently below oil prices to make a decent profit they would keep drilling.

IIRC, about 20% of our oil comes from the Middle East. Could we produce enough, in addition to green sources and/or natural gas, to replace that 20%? If we did replace it, could we stop being the 'World's Policemen' over there? Right now we're funding about 100% of the cost of safeguarding that place, keeping the Straights open etc. It would be one heck of a savings if we could just drop that role because we no longer needed ME oil.

If only for sh!ts and giggles I'd like to see our production skyrocket and perhaps blow-up the current model. I'd like to see what would happen.

Fern
 

marincounty

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If you don't do anything with supply then you allow speculators to influence prices.

Either way 6 years later we haven't done shit and prices are through the roof.

Of course you are wrong.

A boom in oil production from the shale formations of North Dakota and Texas has the U.S. on a course to cut its reliance on imported crude oil to about 42 percent this year, the lowest level in two decades.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-08-23/u-s-oil-imports-to-seen-hitting-20-year-low-42-of-use.html
n 2011, the U.S. relied on imports for 44.8 percent of its petroleum consumption, down from 60.3 percent in 2005, according to EIA data. This year, the nation should end up at about 42 percent, Sieminski said in a telephone interview after the lunch.
 

dmcowen674

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Simple supply and demand.

Speculators have a hard time driving the price up if you flood the market with oil.

Try and keep up.

The market has been flooded with an overflow of oil for years now.

Inventories are still over 20 year highs.

Barges are sitting full all over the place because all the oil tanks are full and have been for a long time.

It has been proven a long time ago supply and demand has nothing to do with the oil thug industry anymore.

You are a very uneducated poster.

Search on the Internets is a powerful tool, you should try it before typing bullshit.
 

dmcowen674

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Originally Posted by Matt1970
If you don't do anything with supply then you allow speculators to influence prices.

Either way 6 years later we haven't done shit and prices are through the roof.


Of course you are wrong.

A boom in oil production from the shale formations of North Dakota and Texas has the U.S. on a course to cut its reliance on imported crude oil to about 42 percent this year, the lowest level in two decades.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-08-23/u-s-oil-imports-to-seen-hitting-20-year-low-42-of-use.html
n 2011, the U.S. relied on imports for 44.8 percent of its petroleum consumption, down from 60.3 percent in 2005, according to EIA data. This year, the nation should end up at about 42 percent, Sieminski said in a telephone interview after the lunch.

Thank you for schooling this either very uneducated poster or just a 100% liar paid shill. :thumbsup:
 

dmcowen674

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Dave, seems to me you are strongly suggesting that the normal demand/supply function is not working here. I.e., oil prices are being artificially supported.

You are an original

Shirley you know there is no longer any such thing as "normal demand/supply function" in regards to this thug industry for a long time.
 

dmcowen674

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Originally Posted by dmcowen674
Links, proof that drilling for oil is the answer for high oil prices?

You and your buds constantly remind us that it's a global market.

The global market is running the oil high with record oil inventories.

Since we have record inventories how will even more oil bring prices down?

Links, proof?



This. Now I think I'll shoot myself for agreeing with Dave.

 

Matt1970

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Mar 19, 2007
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Originally Posted by Matt1970
If you don't do anything with supply then you allow speculators to influence prices.

Either way 6 years later we haven't done shit and prices are through the roof.




Thank you for schooling this either very uneducated poster or just a 100% liar paid shill. :thumbsup:

LOL, you aren't even playing on the same level as anyone else here. You are constantly ridiculed buy your own side. I'll send you a quarter so you can go buy a clue.
 

Matt1970

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Mar 19, 2007
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Of course you are wrong.

A boom in oil production from the shale formations of North Dakota and Texas has the U.S. on a course to cut its reliance on imported crude oil to about 42 percent this year, the lowest level in two decades.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-08-23/u-s-oil-imports-to-seen-hitting-20-year-low-42-of-use.html
n 2011, the U.S. relied on imports for 44.8 percent of its petroleum consumption, down from 60.3 percent in 2005, according to EIA data. This year, the nation should end up at about 42 percent, Sieminski said in a telephone interview after the lunch.

Great, that still means we are dependent of foreign oil. *Cough* drill more oil.
 
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