Ron DeSantis Tells Florida Not To ‘Monkey This Up’ By Electing Andrew Gillum

[Doc Savage Fan]

Context is hard...especially if you have the IQ of a pet rock.

monkeyed; monkeying
transitive verb
: mimic, mock
intransitive verb
: to act in a grotesque or mischievous manner
2a : fool, trifle —often used with around

• he likes to monkey around with engines

b : tamper —usually used with with

• don't monkey with the settings

 

[Maxima1]

There's a "good chance" of anything when you're guessing at what someone actually meant by what they said. That's because people don't always speak with the utmost clarity, and none of us is telepathic. Which doesn't mean it's a good idea to stoke anger and outrage over a comment whose true meaning was only known to the speaker, but which on the surface could easily have been just an odd variation of an idiom, which is the sort of thing people do all the time. It's important to be cautious in how you interpret remarks like this or, as I said, we end up creating a very stifling and unhealthy environment.

He's been around long enough to know it, but he knows how much that sort of language excites the base. I'd also argue the phrasing is more than just a little strange. Everyone knows of "monkey around" and "throw a monkey wrench into". The latter seems like something that would have came to his mind first of all, but I think he tried the weird phrasing for attention.

 

[K1052]

If the media is obsessing and providing coverage to one candidate (promotion) over the other, then the response has been provoked and given.

It's a double edged sword. Pumps up the base but can cause problems with other parts of the electorate. The Trump margin here was like 1% so not a whole lotta room for miscalculation if you're going full MAGA.

 

[BUTCH1]

There is no fucking way this isn't satire.

No, it's not. I live in central FL, this sorry POS licking the ball-sack sweat off Dump aired this thing constantly. His entire platform is literally "hey look!!, I've got Trump's dick in my mouth!". Rick Scott, (the governor who has reached term limits) is now ahead of long time Democrat Bill Nelson by spending a fortune in attack ad's claiming Nelson voted to "slash medicare". Truth is, when Obamacare first rolled out states had the option, (at minimal cost), to add Medicare for low income people, Scott refused to accept this.

 

[Viper1j]

Really?
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entr...um-monkey-this-up_us_5b86ad7ae4b0162f471e75da

"“The last thing we need to do is to monkey this up by trying to embrace a socialist agenda with huge tax increases and bankrupting the state,” said DeSantis to Smith."

More racist dog whistles.

He blows Trump late at night..

Did you really expect anything different?

As for me, I always expect water to be wet..
Just sayin'..

 

[Zorba]

I didn't read the thread, but how is this different than when Obama made his lipstick on a pig comment?

I.e. normal phrase used everyday by people.

 

[woolfe9998]

Context is hard...especially if you have the IQ of a pet rock.

monkeyed; monkeying
transitive verb
: mimic, mock
intransitive verb
: to act in a grotesque or mischievous manner
2a : fool, trifle —often used with around

• he likes to monkey around with engines

b : tamper —usually used with with

• don't monkey with the settings

Right, which is exactly why, in spite of the odd variation he used, it's clear enough what he meant. In the example I gave above where my wife said "the ball is in your field" instead of "the ball is in your court," after I called her on it, she said, "oh come on, you know what I meant." And she was right. I knew exactly what she meant.

In this case, if we consider a hypothetical world identical to our own, with the difference that "monkey" had never in the past been used as a slur, I doubt anyone would have called him out simply for using a strange variation of a common idiom, precisely because everyone would know what he meant. Which is why the whole argument that his words were not a known form of idiom isn't a very good one. If instead he had said "don't monkey around and vote for a socialist" that would have been the common idiom but I doubt we'd see a different response.

For me to be convinced that his intent was racist, I'd need to see other examples of racist remarks he's made. Otherwise, I'm not just going to assume it.

 

[Blackjack200]

Right, which is exactly why, in spite of the odd variation he used, it's clear enough what he meant. In the example I gave above where my wife said "the ball is in your field" instead of "the ball is in your court," after I called her on it, she said, "oh come on, you know what I meant." And she was right. I knew exactly what she meant.

In this case, if we consider a hypothetical world identical to our own, with the difference that "monkey" had never in the past been used as a slur, I doubt anyone would have called him out simply for using a strange variation of a common idiom, precisely because everyone would know what he meant. Which is why the whole argument that his words were not a known form of idiom isn't a very good one. If instead he had said "don't monkey around and vote for a socialist" that would have been the common idiom but I doubt we'd see a different response.

For me to be convinced that his intent was racist, I'd need to see other examples of racist remarks he's made. Otherwise, I'm not just going to assume it.

Just out of curiosity... does your wife ever tell you to shut the fuck up?

 

[Viper1j]

I didn't read the thread, but how is this different than when Obama made his lipstick on a pig comment?

I.e. normal phrase used everyday by people.

Dude, that was Sarah Palin.

Waitress, I'll have some of whatever he's been drinking.

 

[ecogen]

No, it's not. I live in central FL, this sorry POS licking the ball-sack sweat off Dump aired this thing constantly. His entire platform is literally "hey look!!, I've got Trump's dick in my mouth!". Rick Scott, (the governor who has reached term limits) is now ahead of long time Democrat Bill Nelson by spending a fortune in attack ad's claiming Nelson voted to "slash medicare". Truth is, when Obamacare first rolled out states had the option, (at minimal cost), to add Medicare for low income people, Scott refused to accept this.

I swear to god US Republicans always come off as either complete fucking morons or mustache twirling comic book villains. It's hilarious.

Getting back on topic, if this was a random one off I would probably give him the benefit of doubt but after googling this dude ehhhh. He attends events with Bannon and that moron that founded the Proud Boys so yeah, he probably said this shit on purpose.

 

[woolfe9998]

Just out of curiosity... does your wife ever tell you to shut the fuck up?

All the time. Which doesn't mean I'm wrong.

 

[umbrella39]

Context is hard...especially if you have the IQ of a pet rock.

monkeyed; monkeying
transitive verb
: mimic, mock
intransitive verb
: to act in a grotesque or mischievous manner
2a : fool, trifle —often used with around

• he likes to monkey around with engines

b : tamper —usually used with with

• don't monkey with the settings

Whenever someone trots shit like this out in a thread like this it means one thing and one thing only... Too bad you have half the people here on ignore, fun way in insulate yourself from reality...

 

[Burpo]

For me to be convinced that his intent was racist, I'd need to see other examples of racist remarks he's made. Otherwise, I'm not just going to assume it.

All you have to do is watch the commercials we're being bombarded with here in Fl.

Ron Desantis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1YP_zZJFXs

Andrew Gillum
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1t3RCPQVx4I

You don't have to be a stable genius to figure it out..

 

[umbrella39]

All you have to do is watch the commercials we're being bombarded with here in Fl.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1YP_zZJFXs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1t3RCPQVx4I

You don't have to be a stable genius to figure it out..

Um yeah, this guy is a fucking loon, so is his skank, and poor fucking kid... That kid doesn't stand a chance... I'm not even going to click on the 2nd link. First one was way too much info...

 

[Maxima1]

If instead he had said "don't monkey around and vote for a socialist" that would have been the common idiom but I doubt we'd see a different response.

That would sound completely contrived.

 

[Blackjack200]

All the time. Which doesn't mean I'm wrong.

I won't be so rude, but just offer a suggestion...

If someone that literally dresses their infant in a MAGA onesie is measuring people's skulls, you don't have argue that he's probably just fitting them for hats. You don't have to carry water for the absolute shittiest people this country has ever produced.

 

[mect]

This is one thing many on the left do that drive me crazy. There's enough blatantly racist and prejudiced shit out there without trying to find offense in any little statement. He didn't call Gillum a monkey. Just let it go. Keep the focus on the issues with the republican candidate, who from my understanding is molded in the image of Trump.

 

[Josephus312]

Yes. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

Ah, the Bill Clinton defence.

 

[woolfe9998]

All you have to do is watch the commercials we're being bombarded with here in Fl.

Ron Desantis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1YP_zZJFXs

Andrew Gillum
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1t3RCPQVx4I

You don't have to be a stable genius to figure it out..

And that tells me what? That he's racist? What I see there is that he is an ardent Trump supporter. Plenty of racism among ardent Trump supporters but I somehow doubt all of them are.

 

[woolfe9998]

I won't be so rude, but just offer a suggestion...

If someone that literally dresses their infant in a MAGA onesie is measuring people's skulls, you don't have argue that he's probably just fitting them for hats. You don't have to carry water for the absolute shittiest people this country has ever produced.

Carrying water, LOL. You remind me of agent.

 

[ElFenix]

did anybody watch the video?

https://twitter.com/revrrlewis/status/1034801623732764672

 

[a777pilot]

Why is calling a person, of any color, a monkey an insult to liberals? I makes no sense at all, unless one remembers what hypocrites Liberals/Democrats are.

I wonder if any of you see this as I do. So, do any of you understand?

 

[Josephus312]

Why is calling a person, of any color, a monkey an insult to liberals? I makes no sense at all, unless one remembers what hypocrites Liberals/Democrats are.

I wonder if any of you see this as I do. So, do any of you understand?

Historical claims of 3/5'ths of a person, related to monkeys and the overwhelming usage of the term monkey to describe black people is why it's an insult to EVERYONE.

Are you a teenybopper or something who is completely unaware of this praticise? Or are you just playing stupid because you think that helps?

You want to know how you sound to me when I read your reply?

"Why is dem dere fine white folks who are a bit misled worried about the negroes and us calling them monkeys"

That's it.

 

[ecogen]

Why is calling a person, of any color, a monkey an insult to liberals? I makes no sense at all, unless one remembers what hypocrites Liberals/Democrats are.

I wonder if any of you see this as I do. So, do any of you understand?

Because historical context is a thing. Back to your cave.

 

[Zorba]

Dude, that was Sarah Palin.

Waitress, I'll have some of whatever he's been drinking.

No it wasn't. Obama said it, and palin/fox tried to claim he called her a pig.

https://nypost.com/2008/09/09/obama-put-lipstick-on-a-pig-its-still-a-pig/