Ron Paul for President

[William Gaatjes]

Just a silly question.

Is Ron Paul ever seen on AIPAC meetings where the US rich who's who are present as well ? If there is no evidence of him lobbying there. I can promise you he will not get elected or will not receive the financial support needed.

I mean, all your politicians(presidents and vice presidents, secretaries, etcetera) for the last 20 years have been on AIPAC meeting lobbying.

 

[William Gaatjes]

The AIPAC is using a lot of non profit foundations also known as NPO. Foundations are tax exempted...

 

[bfdd]

Oh, and for the Paul nuts that still think his economics are legitimate, can anyone explain why there are no Austrian economics departments at any major, respected universities if this is a serious discipline dedicated to creating economic models that accurately predict micro and macro economic fluctuations year-to-year? Does anyone seriously believe there's not a single good reason Austrian econ is a dead-end research-wise at every single major university in the country? I just find that kind of faith laughably naive, almost child-like.

Because maybe the people who took "control" wanted to keep it out because it goes against the system they've installed? Just because a lot of people do something or believe something is right, doesn't make it so. That's stupid and you're stupid for suggesting such.

 

[William Gaatjes]

Because maybe the people who took "control" wanted to keep it out because it goes against the system they've installed? Just because a lot of people do something or believe something is right, doesn't make it so. That's stupid and you're stupid for suggesting such.

The Austrian school of thought has the same issues as all the systems do.
It assumes that to much is ideal. FED and fractional reserve banking will only function in close to ideal situations. But the the Austrian school economics will also only work in close to ideal situations. Anything less = fail. The problem is that these systems do not take in account the entire economic evolution that has occurred. Computers are used now for transactions. Billions of dollars only exists as numbers in a file to exist only for a few seconds and then to be moved along to end up on the other side of the planet in a file.

 

[First]

Now you're just being crazy. The test of economic theory has nothing to do with empirical evidence and testing econometric models, that's begging the question in that you are awarding yourself the initial premise that economics should even be evaluated that way. The fact remains that empiricism in economics is not a settled discussion.

It is a very settled discussion among the various economics research departments all over the world. If you feel they are in error, I'm very certain your (albeit entirely subjective) analysis that flies in the face of their economic models would be of great interest to them.

Because maybe the people who took "control" wanted to keep it out because it goes against the system they've installed? Just because a lot of people do something or believe something is right, doesn't make it so. That's stupid and you're stupid for suggesting such.

Honestly, you have to be pretty stupid to believe otherwise, especially if you're a laymen (and trust me, you fit that word to a T, more than you'll probably ever figure out all on your little lonesome).

 

[Nemesis 1]

Just a silly question.

Is Ron Paul ever seen on AIPAC meetings where the US rich who's who are present as well ? If there is no evidence of him lobbying there. I can promise you he will not get elected or will not receive the financial support needed.

I mean, all your politicians(presidents and vice presidents, secretaries, etcetera) for the last 20 years have been on AIPAC meeting lobbying.

So many intellects here . LOL! Here is a guy that told the future he to is a crazy man who just doesn't get it . I meam listen to the guy clearly he was clueless.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZU0c8DAIU4&feature=related

 

[William Gaatjes]

So many intellects here . LOL! Here is a guy that told the future he to is a crazy man who just doesn't get it . I meam listen to the guy clearly he was clueless.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZU0c8DAIU4&feature=related

For the fun i watched it. After 2 minutes i stopped, but i had to think of Greece with all the points he mentioned. :hmm:

 

[Nemesis 1]

Well than me thinks ya should watch the whole thing . As it describes AMERICA perfectly / 2012 is going to be about real facts real truths and the liars are going down for the count. The media may Hide Pauls popularity . But the fact he is winning even the poor to his side says alot.

 

[Nemesis 1]

Thanks. I don't find any of those ideas looney. I don't have a lot expertise in economics and don't know what type of fallout would surround the gold standard. The rest of these "looney ideas" sound perfectly reasonable to me. To be clear on the anti-abortion rhetoric, it is my understanding that he is anti-abortion, but does not feel that it should be made illegal at a federal level, but that it should be a state's decision. I could care less if he is sold on global warming or evolution (and I'm an atheist).

Paul would like ly be a 1 term president . He can only do so much in 4 years. He says he can reduce by 1 trillion in 3 years . I believe this man . As for Pauls abortion stance . I think this really somes Dr. Paul up on all issues. I just plan and simple like this man . Whats not to like. He smart compassionate and more than that he truelly understands that charity comes from the heart and not a scheme.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyC6ieSFOFM

 

[bfdd]

It is a very settled discussion among the various economics research departments all over the world. If you feel they are in error, I'm very certain your (albeit entirely subjective) analysis that flies in the face of their economic models would be of great interest to them.



Honestly, you have to be pretty stupid to believe otherwise, especially if you're a laymen (and trust me, you fit that word to a T, more than you'll probably ever figure out all on your little lonesome).

That's what you say, but none of them seem to work and everyone seems to btich about something. Makes me think it's all a fucking people problem. And if you don't believe the educational system has been hijacked by people who wish nothing more than to indoctrinate the youth into their world view you've got a fucking problem. Why do you think so many idiots went to college and racked up debt? They were told by their educators they would be NOTHING without a college degree.

 

[Nemesis 1]

This is what Pauls up against . Its a TRUE FACT . Lightly hidden . I would love to vote one last time for a man like Dr. Paul. RON Paul is Americas last shot at individual freedom . The Right to make our own choices. I am old so I kind listening to the new generation here who are raised more by grand parents than parents . These kids can think . They haven't been taught alot but their thinkers something I hadn't realized.

Does paul have a chance. NO! Unless we make this a war about who actually elects the president. The Media or Us. Paul cann't get all he wants done period . But if he can do the 1 trillion def. cut . I am all for him . And he has shown how he can do this .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q29CyBGlmBE&feature=related

 

[William Gaatjes]

Well than me thinks ya should watch the whole thing . As it describes AMERICA perfectly / 2012 is going to be about real facts real truths and the liars are going down for the count. The media may Hide Pauls popularity . But the fact he is winning even the poor to his side says alot.

Herman Cain has been to the AIPAC meeting...
He attacked Obama on the issue of the Palestinians but refused to give his real opinion on the matter.
I would not be surprised if he would become your next president...

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.co...idential-hopefuls-to-attend-aipac-conference/

Several GOP presidential hopefuls to attend AIPAC Conference
Posted by
CNN Senior Producer Kevin Bohn

Washington (CNN) - As President Barack Obama's Mideast speech this week came under fire from many in the Republican Party for not being supportive enough of Israel, several GOP prospective presidential candidates will be appearing this week at a major event sponsored by a key American Israeli lobbying organization.

Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, Rep. Michele Bachmann, businessman Herman Cain and former U.S. Ambassador to China Jon Huntsman will attend a policy conference of the American Israeli Public Affairs Committee, Ari Goldberg, a spokesman for the group, confirmed to CNN.

Obama will be making his first appearance as president before an AIPAC event when he addresses the conference Sunday morning. Several leading members of Congress are also scheduled to speak at the event.

AIPAC said this year's conference will be the largest in its history with over 10,000 participants expected to attend.

Gingrich and Bachmann are expected to hold receptions during the event, which begins Sunday, the group said.

Huntsman and Cain are scheduled to attend the group's major dinner Monday night.

Roll Call first reported the attendance of the Republican candidates.

The President speaks on America's unbreakable bond with Israel at the AIPAC Policy Conference 2011 at the Walter E. Washington Convention Center. May 22, 2011.

President Obama at AIPAC.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tib1lYIsdk

 

[Nemesis 1]

I Think this says it best . They know better than we do . Talk about spitting in our faces .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VF0QRPfJ2s&feature=related

 

[Nemesis 1]

Herman Cain has been to the AIPAC meeting...
He attacked Obama on the issue of the Palestinians but refused to give his real opinion on the matter.
I would not be surprised if he would become your next president...

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.co...idential-hopefuls-to-attend-aipac-conference/





President Obama at AIPAC.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tib1lYIsdk

I don't care about AIRPAC and all the BS rules and lies told to us by these people. I care about the same thing Ron Paul cares about America and americans FREEDOM! Its not something we should discard so easily. Make the infrustructure of America strong NOW today . Stop world welfare and the Rothschild run Federal reserve

 

[airdata]

Still the top presidential candidate for 2012.

Let the other nutjobs and phoneys like Bachman, Romney, Cain and Perry fall by the wayside.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Ron Paul for President - A pipe dream that will never happen