Roseanne cancelled after racist tweet

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woolfe9998

Lifer
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Tom Arnold made some noteworthy comments tonight about this:

"I had a feeling this was going to happen when I first heard it was coming back," Arnold told CNN's Anderson Cooper on "AC360."

Arnold, a former writer on the original "Roseanne" suggested that Barr's support of President Donald Trump's conspiracy theories played a part in her downfall.

"When I read her social media in the very beginning, and I saw how she was so into the conspiracy stuff with Donald Trump and so how far gone she was, and the 'pizzagate' and Hillary is a pedophile and Obama wasn't born here, she was, you know, a 'birther,' and how crazy that was -- I just knew that this would not end well," Arnold said.

Arnold, who had turbulent four years of marriage with the sitcom star prior to their divorce in 1994 told Cooper that she had a long history of racist tweets.

"It's a meme that she and thousands of her alt-right fans do," Arnold said. "They love calling black people monkeys. It's not a one time joke, OK. They do it because we have a white trash racist president. That's a fact. Donald Trump -- Roseanne and I have both known him 30 years. That's an absolute fact."

Arnold went on to criticize Trump for his past controversial comments.

"I generally believe he thinks black people are dangerous and Mexicans are rapists," Arnold said. "He believes that. As he perpetuates that fear to America, watch out Mueller is lying, he is after me. And so, Americans are sitting home like Roseanne and her fans, are like, oh my God, what is happening out there? And they get anxiety. "

Arnold also questioned whether Trump was really ever a fan of his former wife or just wanted to take credit for her ratings' success. He told Cooper of a time that Trump criticized her directly after their divorce.

"He's with Melania and I'm with my wife at the time, Shelby Roos, who's a political consultant," Arnold said. "And he said to me, oh my gosh, you married up in the world. And he goes, Roseanne was disgusting. And he said that to me out of the blue. Like, you know what, no matter what kind of divorce you had, that's a weird thing to say."

https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/31/us/tom-arnold-roseanne-anderson-cooper-cnntv/index.html

That last comment is where this gets truly pathetic. I can...almost pity her. Trump thinks she's a disgusting fat pig in private but says he supports her in public because she endorses his conspiracy theories and says nice things about him. And she buys what he's selling without even realizing he secretly holds her in contempt. Sad!
 

ch33zw1z

Lifer
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First off, Rosanne Barr is a bitch.
Having said that, plenty of celebs have tweeted horrible shit over the years and not been punished for it.

So, what the fuck?

Guess Roseanne's racism is just too much to bear. Not surprising, she's a turd anyways, this was enough to push the handle. See ya around the bend, roseanne
 
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Starbuck1975

Lifer
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Do you know how much the main stars (Roseanne and Dan) of the show were making an episode? At least $250K. That's a lot of money for one season (over $2 million) and then even more money from syndication for years and years later.

https://www.cheatsheet.com/money-ca...ing-since-abc-canceled-her-shows-reboot.html/

I feel bad for the ordinary folks from production/make up/catering/security/etc. that are also fired from their jobs even they did not do anything wrong. They were counting on the 2nd season and more.
Zero fvcks given. They all knew who Roseanne was and yet chose to hitch their wagon to her anyway. Fairly typical for Hollywood.
 
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cytg111

Lifer
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I feel bad for the ordinary folks from production/make up/catering/security/etc. that are also fired from their jobs even they did not do anything wrong. They were counting on the 2nd season and more.

Yea, cause one person cant control the inner asshole and is out of fucks to give. True trickle down right there.
 

Paratus

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Zero fvcks given. They all knew who Roseanne was and yet chose to hitch their wagon to her anyway. Fairly typical for Hollywood.
I don’t know why but I keep inserting different words into this sentence and it keeps working.

Zero fvcks given. They all knew who Roseanne (Trump) was and yet chose to hitch their wagon to her (him) anyway. Fairly typical for Hollywood (the GOP).
 

Starbuck1975

Lifer
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I don’t know why but I keep inserting different words into this sentence and it keeps working.

Zero fvcks given. They all knew who Roseanne (Trump) was and yet chose to hitch their wagon to her (him) anyway. Fairly typical for Hollywood (the GOP).
Yes it works for many many scenarios. Trump is a great example. Someone else comes to mind as well but I dare not speak the name.
 

zinfamous

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She’s probably full of shit and squirming in damage control no doubt. Someone said ambien can’t be the reason why though and my response was ambien makes you do crazy shit so it’s not unreasonable that had an influence. Big pharma came out with their response of nope we aren’t at fault which is just damage control of their cash cow and I get that, but it’s a drug that does have crazy side effects. Racism isn’t one of them but losing impulse control and sending things you shouldn’t is.

Jesus Christ give it the fuck up: ambien didn't make her racist. She didn't say "Stupid shit." She has a long fucking history of saying abjectly racist shit.
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
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No I never said that. Not once. Others have said it for me because I have plenty of spokesmen on here though. So sure, win an internet battle with essentially yourself.

NO. You first argued that she was being canned for "being who she was!" even though everyone should have already known who she was. You then argued that she was just being stupid. Not that she was being racist.

Then you jumped on the ambien dragon that she lofted out there, to run away from her racism, and still seem to think that it's a valid excuse. You both seem to admit she is a vile person but refuse to believe that is why she was fired. You want to convince yourself that it is because she made some stupid decisions that probably weren't her fault.

You have this well-documented history here of arguing on behalf of unapologetic racists, making every possible excuse for them.
 

Homerboy

Lifer
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You know what's fucked up? Out of ALL the crazy shit going on in the the US right now, the craziest thing is that Tom Arnold has somehow become the voice of reason, logic and understanding.
That being said, I always did like the guy.
 
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Greenman

Lifer
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Didn't read most of the thread, but I'm guessing no one bought into the "I didn't know she was black" line?
 

jackstar7

Lifer
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Nope. Congrats on projecting. I believe thats whats known as a Simple Straw Man.
What projection do you see? Because this thread is about R and you brought up "plenty of celebs" not being punished...

So if I misunderstood your point, can you please clarify?
 

Younigue

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You know what's fucked up? Out of ALL the crazy shit going on in the the US right now, the craziest thing is that Tom Arnold has somehow become the voice of reason, logic and understanding.
That being said, I always did like the guy.
He's much more likeable with maturity and sobriety on his side.
 

woolfe9998

Lifer
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Zero fvcks given. They all knew who Roseanne was and yet chose to hitch their wagon to her anyway. Fairly typical for Hollywood.

I know you have a thing about Hollywood, but this is "fairly typical" of any for profit business. They hitch their wagon to anyone who bolsters their bottom line.
 

UglyCasanova

Lifer
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I know you have a thing about Hollywood, but this is "fairly typical" of any for profit business. They hitch their wagon to anyone who bolsters their bottom line.

Right but there’s definitely a risk / reward calculation that goes on before doing so.
 

Starbuck1975

Lifer
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I know you have a thing about Hollywood, but this is "fairly typical" of any for profit business. They hitch their wagon to anyone who bolsters their bottom line.
Most for profit businesses are not hypocritical in the sense that they are lamenting the root causes of systemic social justice issues while simultaneously striking deals with the devil in the hope that controversy drives ratings.
 
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