Rosewill pci-e SATA controller $0 After Rebate, $5 shipping

[EtOH]

I don't find many deals but this one fit my needs.

LINK

This is a pci-e SATA II controller. 1 internal and 1 external port.

Free after $20 rebate, just pay the $5 shipping.

Works like a champ, SiI3132 chipset. Not sure what was wrong with the people reviewing it, works great so far.

Its the same board as these 2, just rebadged

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[Zap]

Wow, that's pretty cheap for adding eSATA to a PC. Also comes with a low profile bracket. I'd get one just for the heck of it except I won't be around next week to receive it - don't want it sitting ouside my door for a few days.

 

[konakona]

tempting. wonder if the rebate would come through..

 

[onelove]

rebate goes to newegg, so that's good.

Its funny that I just bought this since:
1. the last rosewill thing I bought (cardreader) died after 3 weeks
2. the SiI680 chipset PCI card controller I am using now has been less than great.

but... only $5 -- thanks OP

 

[imported_magicmycote]

I think this is a repost. This SATA card works in OSX (hackintosh) if anyone is interested.

 

[boha]

Originally posted by: magicmycote
This SATA card works in OSX (hackintosh) if anyone is interested.

I was actually wondering that. Thank you. Penetrating the forums to get answers like that is an intensive task, and the HCL is rarely updated.

 

[Old Hippie]

Originally posted by: magicmycote
I think this is a repost. This SATA card works in OSX (hackintosh) if anyone is interested.

I posted this deal a coupla days ago, but I'm glad somebody appreciated it.

 

[Muadib]

I'm in for one. Thanks!

 

[kki000]

esata bracket

Cheaper way to get esata... if you have at least one internal port open.

 

[TwiceOver]

Warning PCI x1 Barely faster than USB2.

If you want real performance you are going to need to go up to at least an x8.

 

[onelove]

Originally posted by: TwiceOver
Warning PCI x1 Barely faster than USB2.

If you want real performance you are going to need to go up to at least an x8.

twice, can you please explain this a little more? I think you mean if one sticks this card into an old PCI slot, the result is barely over USB2 speeds. isn't USB2 theoretically up to 480 mb/s? help me understand; I've not been keeping up as much as you, obviously.

 

[TwiceOver]

Originally posted by: onelove

Originally posted by: TwiceOver
Warning PCI x1 Barely faster than USB2.

If you want real performance you are going to need to go up to at least an x8.

twice, can you please explain this a little more? I think you mean if one sticks this card into an old PCI slot, the result is barely over USB2 speeds. isn't USB2 theoretically up to 480 mb/s? help me understand; I've not been keeping up as much as you, obviously.

This is a PCI x1 card. PCI x1 has a maximim throughput of 500Mb/s USB is theoretically 480. I use eSata for backups at work. Here are some BASIC comparisons in speed:

Stats:
SBS2003, Raid5, Exchange Server, Windows Backup ~140gb (same enclosure all stats)

USB2: ~11hrs
eSata x1: ~9.5hrs (usually 10hrs)
eSata x8: ~3hrs

Nos obviously I don't have real data, but I have the exprience using the equipment. Directron has more information on the various bus widths.

 

[onelove]

awesome - thanks for explaining. also for the link. very informative & just what I didn't know that I didn't know. Looks like my old PCI bus will be maxxed at about 132mb/s. I think the drive can only write so fast tho... like under 100mb/s for regular SATA drives.

when you are writing to that eSata x8, what medium are you writing to to get the backup to roll that fast? also, with the x1, it seems like you are only writing about 14gb/hour (140gb backup taking 10 hours).
EDIT: 14gb/hr works out to somewhere around 3.9 mb/second = sloooowwww. check my math here, but something seems broken in this scenario...

I'm guessing that I don't fully understand the mechanism of your backup.

thanks for taking the time. I'm sure some other n00b will stumble on this and be edified.

 

[Absolution75]

Originally posted by: TwiceOver

Originally posted by: onelove

Originally posted by: TwiceOver
Warning PCI x1 Barely faster than USB2.

If you want real performance you are going to need to go up to at least an x8.

twice, can you please explain this a little more? I think you mean if one sticks this card into an old PCI slot, the result is barely over USB2 speeds. isn't USB2 theoretically up to 480 mb/s? help me understand; I've not been keeping up as much as you, obviously.

This is a PCI x1 card. PCI x1 has a maximim throughput of 500Mb/s USB is theoretically 480. I use eSata for backups at work. Here are some BASIC comparisons in speed:

Stats:
SBS2003, Raid5, Exchange Server, Windows Backup ~140gb (same enclosure all stats)

USB2: ~11hrs
eSata x1: ~9.5hrs (usually 10hrs)
eSata x8: ~3hrs

Nos obviously I don't have real data, but I have the exprience using the equipment. Directron has more information on the various bus widths.

Been a long time viewer here - I finally needed to jump in.

Actually, to be blunt, your wrong, but just a little. I find it odd that you'd link an article that proved your wrongess too ^_^

USB 2.0 has a theoretical speed of 480mbits per second (Note, that is Mb/sec - megabits/sec, not MB/sec - megabytes/sec).
PCI-Express 1x has a theoretical speed of 500MBytes per second (that is MB/sec)

PCI-E 1x is over 10x that of USB - this card will max out your hard drive, and infact, is faster than the old IDE interface (by about 2x). The actual speed is inbetween the SATAI and SATAII specs.

SATAI: 150MB/sec (or ~1500Mbit/sec)
PCI-E 1x: 250MB/sec (or ~2500Mbit/sec)
SATAII: 300MB/sec (or ~3000Mbit/sec)

Thanks OP - I'm in for one!

 

[TwiceOver]

Originally posted by: Absolution75

Originally posted by: TwiceOver

Originally posted by: onelove

Originally posted by: TwiceOver
Warning PCI x1 Barely faster than USB2.

If you want real performance you are going to need to go up to at least an x8.

twice, can you please explain this a little more? I think you mean if one sticks this card into an old PCI slot, the result is barely over USB2 speeds. isn't USB2 theoretically up to 480 mb/s? help me understand; I've not been keeping up as much as you, obviously.

This is a PCI x1 card. PCI x1 has a maximim throughput of 500Mb/s USB is theoretically 480. I use eSata for backups at work. Here are some BASIC comparisons in speed:

Stats:
SBS2003, Raid5, Exchange Server, Windows Backup ~140gb (same enclosure all stats)

USB2: ~11hrs
eSata x1: ~9.5hrs (usually 10hrs)
eSata x8: ~3hrs

Nos obviously I don't have real data, but I have the exprience using the equipment. Directron has more information on the various bus widths.

Been a long time viewer here - I finally needed to jump in.

Actually, to be blunt, your wrong, but just a little. I find it odd that you'd link an article that proved your wrongess too ^_^

USB 2.0 has a theoretical speed of 480mbits per second (Note, that is Mb/sec - megabits/sec, not MB/sec - megabytes/sec).
PCI-Express 1x has a theoretical speed of 500MBytes per second (that is MB/sec)

PCI-E 1x is over 10x that of USB - this card will max out your hard drive, and infact, is faster than the old IDE interface (by about 2x). The actual speed is inbetween the SATAI and SATAII specs.

SATAI: 150MB/sec (or ~1500Mbit/sec)
PCI-E 1x: 250MB/sec (or ~2500Mbit/sec)
SATAII: 300MB/sec (or ~3000Mbit/sec)

Thanks OP - I'm in for one!

Not in real world testing. You also need to consider the 500MB is both ways. Only 250MB read or write, which is stated in that directron link.

 

[Muadib]

Originally posted by: TwiceOver

Originally posted by: Absolution75

Originally posted by: TwiceOver

Originally posted by: onelove

Originally posted by: TwiceOver
Warning PCI x1 Barely faster than USB2.

If you want real performance you are going to need to go up to at least an x8.

twice, can you please explain this a little more? I think you mean if one sticks this card into an old PCI slot, the result is barely over USB2 speeds. isn't USB2 theoretically up to 480 mb/s? help me understand; I've not been keeping up as much as you, obviously.

This is a PCI x1 card. PCI x1 has a maximim throughput of 500Mb/s USB is theoretically 480. I use eSata for backups at work. Here are some BASIC comparisons in speed:

Stats:
SBS2003, Raid5, Exchange Server, Windows Backup ~140gb (same enclosure all stats)

USB2: ~11hrs
eSata x1: ~9.5hrs (usually 10hrs)
eSata x8: ~3hrs

Nos obviously I don't have real data, but I have the exprience using the equipment. Directron has more information on the various bus widths.

Been a long time viewer here - I finally needed to jump in.

Actually, to be blunt, your wrong, but just a little. I find it odd that you'd link an article that proved your wrongess too ^_^

USB 2.0 has a theoretical speed of 480mbits per second (Note, that is Mb/sec - megabits/sec, not MB/sec - megabytes/sec).
PCI-Express 1x has a theoretical speed of 500MBytes per second (that is MB/sec)

PCI-E 1x is over 10x that of USB - this card will max out your hard drive, and infact, is faster than the old IDE interface (by about 2x). The actual speed is inbetween the SATAI and SATAII specs.

SATAI: 150MB/sec (or ~1500Mbit/sec)
PCI-E 1x: 250MB/sec (or ~2500Mbit/sec)
SATAII: 300MB/sec (or ~3000Mbit/sec)

Thanks OP - I'm in for one!

Not in real world testing. You also need to consider the 500MB is both ways. Only 250MB read or write, which is stated in that directron link.

It's 250MB if you are reading and writing at the same time. It's 250MB in each direction, or 500MB one way. With the fastest SATA II drive having a maximum read or write transfer rate of just 116 MB/sec, I'd say this controller will be just fine.

 

[Old Hippie]

Originally posted by: kki000
esata bracket

Cheaper way to get esata... if you have at least one internal port open.

No Hot swap unless you have AHCI enabled.

 

[Odeen]

Originally posted by: Old Hippie

Originally posted by: kki000
esata bracket

Cheaper way to get esata... if you have at least one internal port open.

No Hot swap unless you have AHCI enabled.

In addition, "real" eSATA ports use higher voltage signaling, which allows for full eSATA cable lengths. Some motherboards (like the Intel Bad Axe 2) have eSATA level signaling on one of the extra internal SATA ports.

An eSATA bracket connected to that kind of a port will allow full-length eSATA cables. eSATA bracket connected to a regular internal SATA port has a cable length limit of something like 3 feet.

 

[M0RPH]

Guys, lets talk about hot swap. I bought this thing hoping that I would get the "safely remove hardware" icon for the drive, something I have not been able to get with the SATA controller on my Intel motherboard.

Well after installing the card and connecting my drive to it, I DO NOT get any option to safely remove the drive. Apparently you can still hot swap by disabling the drive from device manager, and there is a utility called Hotswap! to help you do it. But, I was dissapointed that I would have to install some 3rd party utility and that it just doesn't work out of the box with Windows (Vista, in my case).

So, if you are expecting to get hot swap by just installing this controller, think again.