Router throughput.

[Goosemaster]

Originally posted by: Madwand1
eMule is a file sharing app, right? A straight-ahead bandwidth measuring tool would probably be better to use for analysis to factor out the different components of performance. E.g. TTCP.

either way, in the end, straight router thoroughput isn't going to mean diddly if his UDP numbers are really low.

 

[Madwand1]

Originally posted by: Goosemaster
either way, in the end, straight router thoroughput isn't going to mean diddly if his UDP numbers are really low.

Yep, router throughput's not going to mean diddly if the problem's elsewhere. You have to do analysis somewhere. Analysis = decompose the problem.

 

[luh3417bis]

I suggest that the eMule test is actually a very realistic real world test, and also one that many users will have a practical interest in. When you load on new firmware, this router seems to forget everthing and dumb down to very minimal settings. But I will look for stuff to turn off. I can try dumbing down my gigabit NIC to 100FD as a test, but I'd like to at least use the gigabit switch aspect of this thing. As far as analysis, I do need to get down to the metal. Does eMule upstream beat on the UDP or the TCP?

For the record: I'm maxing out at 200KBytes/sec upstream late at night when I have gotten 1000KBytes/sec if I dedicate the eMule machine to the fiber box.

 

[spidey07]

The easiest way to test would be put a PC on the WAN port and a PC on the LAN port. Setup static address on the WAN port and WAN PC.

Then run a TCP or Qcheck between the PCs.

It's not near as accurate as smartbits or chariot. But it will do. The number of flows is very important and probably why peer-2-peer apps have less throughput than a single TCP flow.

 

[luh3417bis]

D-Link tech support, among others, suggested I turn off GameFuel and all the advanced apps. Indeed, in version 1.6 of the firmware they are all turned on out of the box. Unfortunately, this only seems to have boosted me maybe 10%, up to 220 KBytes/sec. I think it would be important to characterize the load that p2p (eMule, BitTorrent, etc.) impose on a router. In fairness, this was sold as a gaming router, not a p2p router. We really need to use real world benchmarks in rating these routers. I mean, that is how games are tested. In my experience, the theoretical benchmarks are deceptive.

 

[Goosemaster]

Originally posted by: luh3417bis
D-Link tech support, among others, suggested I turn off GameFuel and all the advanced apps. Indeed, in version 1.6 of the firmware they are all turned on out of the box. Unfortunately, this only seems to have boosted me maybe 10%, up to 220 KBytes/sec. I think it would be important to characterize the load that p2p (eMule, BitTorrent, etc.) impose on a router. In fairness, this was sold as a gaming router, not a p2p router. We really need to use real world benchmarks in rating these routers. I mean, that is how games are tested. In my experience, the theoretical benchmarks are deceptive.

Try simple 1-file downloads.


try these benchmarks and report your speeds; make sure you are not doing ANYTHING while trying to download these:
Zimu's Test file (capped @ 10Mbit/s)
:
My Test file (capped @ 30Mbit/s)
Mine:

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: luh3417bis
D-Link tech support, among others, suggested I turn off GameFuel and all the advanced apps. Indeed, in version 1.6 of the firmware they are all turned on out of the box. Unfortunately, this only seems to have boosted me maybe 10%, up to 220 KBytes/sec. I think it would be important to characterize the load that p2p (eMule, BitTorrent, etc.) impose on a router. In fairness, this was sold as a gaming router, not a p2p router. We really need to use real world benchmarks in rating these routers. I mean, that is how games are tested. In my experience, the theoretical benchmarks are deceptive.

I can't recall if i explained it in this thread or not.

But all those features take processor power/memory. So you may be able to get better thruput by removing any and all features. Just make it pass packets without any modification or queuing. That will be it's max.

And then as you add features/flows the thruput will decrease.

 

[Goosemaster]

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: luh3417bis
D-Link tech support, among others, suggested I turn off GameFuel and all the advanced apps. Indeed, in version 1.6 of the firmware they are all turned on out of the box. Unfortunately, this only seems to have boosted me maybe 10%, up to 220 KBytes/sec. I think it would be important to characterize the load that p2p (eMule, BitTorrent, etc.) impose on a router. In fairness, this was sold as a gaming router, not a p2p router. We really need to use real world benchmarks in rating these routers. I mean, that is how games are tested. In my experience, the theoretical benchmarks are deceptive.

I can't recall if i explained it in this thread or not.

But all those features take processor power/memory. So you may be able to get better thruput by removing any and all features. Just make it pass packets without any modification or queuing. That will be it's max.

And then as you add features/flows the thruput will decrease.

especially since many P2P apps open multiple connections per file

 

[luh3417bis]

I went into the advanced menu and turned off all the advanced features, including gamefuel and even SPI. Obviously, I need one feature to route the eMule ports, and I've tried 3 different ways to do this with little difference.

eMule reports 40 connections, and in the XP command line, netstat -a reports 160 connections. 90% of them are TCP not UDP. Honestly folks, is that asking very much from a router?

At best, the D-Link DGL-4300 pushes up 250KBytes/sec, not the 1000KBytes/sec I get when I go direct, and only about 2.5% of the "wire-speed" horse-sh*t I've seen bandied about.

I'll try to leave this config up for another day or two in case anyone (including D-Link) has any bright ideas, but right now its looking like "D-Link LamerLounge DGL-4300 For Sale, Cheap". I should also note that this thing generates a lot of heat, and lacks jumbo frame support. However, it does sport several cool looking blue LED's.

 

[Goosemaster]

Originally posted by: luh3417bis
I went into the advanced menu and turned off all the advanced features, including gamefuel and even SPI. Obviously, I need one feature to route the eMule ports, and I've tried 3 different ways to do this with little difference.

eMule reports 40 connections, and in the XP command line, netstat -a reports 160 connections. 90% of them are TCP not UDP. Honestly folks, is that asking very much from a router?

At best, the D-Link DGL-4300 pushes up 250KBytes/sec, not the 1000KBytes/sec I get when I go direct, and only about 2.5% of the "wire-speed" horse-sh*t I've seen bandied about.

I'll try to leave this config up for another day or two in case anyone (including D-Link) has any bright ideas, but right now its looking like "D-Link DGL-4300 For Sale, Cheap". I should also note that this thing generates a lot of heat, and lacks jumbo frame support. However, it does sport several cool looking blue LED's.

dude....just try the links that I posted.

 

[luh3417bis]

I tried slowing the gigabit NIC down to 100Mbps. I tried your links, the first comes in at 40KB/sec the second at 160KB/sec. It is late at night, but I am in Taipei (one of the few places you can get 10 Mbit FTTH for $43/mo) so I'm not sure what these tests will prove. Maybe I can try them again without the DGL-4300 bottlenecking things. The point is that without this LamerLounge router in the way, eMule will suck up the full 10 megabits. I really gotta get my network back to a sane working configuration now. The only thing positive I can say about this router is that at least it doesn't crash.

 

[Goosemaster]

Originally posted by: luh3417bis
I tried slowing the gigabit NIC down to 100Mbps. I tried your links, the first comes in at 40KB/sec the second at 160KB/sec. It is late at night, but I am in Taipei (one of the few places you can get 10 Mbit FTTH for $43/mo) so I'm not sure what these tests will prove. Maybe I can try them again without the DGL-4300 bottlenecking things. The point is that without this LamerLounge router in the way, eMule will suck up the full 10 megabits. I really gotta get my network back to a sane working configuration now. The only thing positive I can say about this router is that at least it doesn't crash.

something is defintiely wrong with your hardware if you are getting those download speeds

 

[lazybedone]

Just confused about this. Are you talking about a network like a VPN or just the normal network?

 

[Gryz]

FYI, this is a post from 1886. Back two centuries ago, networks were slower.

 

[sdifox]

necroing a 2006 thread. Really?