1080ti was alright for 3440x1440 with some compromises. 3080ti is much better but not always if you play the latest titles and you want to include ray tracing. Most times I'll use dlss if I want the ray tracing eye candy along with all other settings maxed.I'd like to get a 12GB RTX 3080 or 16GB RX 6800 XT. Prices are becoming sane, but I hope they'll drop another 20-25% as crypto crashes and NV and AMD's newest series hit the street. It's overkill for my current monitor, but I don't upgrade GPUs very often and want something that'll will give good framerates when I finally upgrade to a WQHD monitor. Have kicked myself for the past couple of years over not buying a 1080 Ti. Moor I candy pleaze
I really don't care about raytracing at this point in time. I thought it would take a couple of generations to get RT to a decent perf/$. I think it actually has a couple more to go, because games are still becoming increasingly complex traditional shader driven graphics.3080ti is much better but not always if you play the latest titles and you want to include ray tracing
I also think we won’t see as large a performance increase as we got with 30 series. 4080 around 25% faster than 3080, compared to the 40% we got from 2080ti to 3080ti.
Not to mention the increased cache. That itself should result in a pretty huge boost even if everything else were kept constant.Nah, it'll be more than that. 18% more SMs, 50% higher clock, More ROPS/TMUs/RT per SM, the additional INT32 cores...
The buck will be passed to PSU makers who will view the new gen cards as a godsend.Hopefully some models will have focused on handling transient power loads, rather than o/c and RGB.
Depends, in a market where all GPU vendors basically sell the same product, then a meaningful diversification can make your product stand out. Bu obviously the same can be said for PSUs.The buck will be passed to PSU makers who will view the new gen cards as a godsend.
Yeah, 4070 equalling 3080 + 15% ain't it, chief.Saw some youtube dude share another kopite leak. The 4070 is said to only have 10GB of Vram and come in at $600 msrp (so $700+ AIB for sure) with maybe 15% better performance than a 3080. So, basically a 3080 for the price of...a 3080. If that's true, I hope they completely choke on the $15 billion in mining cards hitting the used market this year. I'd easily choose a 12GB 3080 for $350-$400 before buying a 10GB 4070 for $700, lol. Easy choice.
We’ve had SLI and CF setups that had the same price, here you just don’t have the hassle getting it to work properly. As long as there are video cards at all price points and performance/$ increase significantly in the new generation, you can just choose whatever price point that suits you. But the key is significant performance/$ increase.The thought of $1200 for a gaming GPU makes me want to fill this entire page with BANNED WORDS.
Yeah, 4070 equalling 3080 + 15% ain't it, chief.
I would expect 3080 performance in under $500, ideally at $450 after tax.
We’ve had SLI and CF setups that had the same price, here you just don’t have the hassle getting it to work properly. As long as there are video cards at all price points and performance/$ increase significantly in the new generation, you can just choose whatever price point that suits you. But the key is significant performance/$ increase.
I thought we helped you out in reaching a decision, but you're still quite aggrieved ?That was for TWO graphics cards. They charge even more now for ONE. The same tier card we used to get for $6-700 now cost TWO GRAND. They simply jacked up the price across the board by a crazy amount. They didn't increase performance at the top end by a crazy amount to justify the price. So what are they doing now? They take the card that most high-end gamers buy, which is the 70-class, and they are jacking the price up to 80ti-class prices. They are grabbing everyone by the crotch and yanking them up several pricing tiers because they love money and know people are suckers and will pay it. Like frogs boiling slowly since Kepler, people tell themselves it's nice and warm in here. We don't have to worry about SLI issues anymore and we still get to pay SLI prices! Praise Jensen!
The MSRP of the 3070 is $500. The 4070's MSRP is def going to be more than that.
As for performance, from Compubase's RDNA2 Refresh review, the 3070 is only 33% slower than the 3080 Ti on average at 1080p and 38% at 1440p. The gap does go up to like high 40% in some games. Hitting that with the 4070 seems very achievable.
The last year's have been crazy regarding video card pricing, and personally any cards priced above the original MSRP of the 3080 and 6800xt, where not worth it. But hopefully it will be possible to get a decent card in that price bracket when next generation launches.That was for TWO graphics cards. They charge even more now for ONE. The same tier card we used to get for $6-700 now cost TWO GRAND. They simply jacked up the price across the board by a crazy amount. They didn't increase performance at the top end by a crazy amount to justify the price. So what are they doing now? They take the card that most high-end gamers buy, which is the 70-class, and they are jacking the price up to 80ti-class prices. They are grabbing everyone by the crotch and yanking them up several pricing tiers because they love money and know people are suckers and will pay it. Like frogs boiling slowly since Kepler, people tell themselves it's nice and warm in here. We don't have to worry about SLI issues anymore and we still get to pay SLI prices! Praise Jensen!
3080 at $699 is the last great GPU value maybe ever? Not that anyone could actually buy one for that price, but for those that did.
Indeed, and it only looks better in hindsight because Turing was an absolute cash grab by not moving the perf/$ needle at all. The 1080 Ti was still incredibly relevant even after Turing came out.The 1080 (Ti) was way better value.