[Rumor]GTX 980Ti to launch somewhere between May 16-26th

[PhIlLy ChEeSe]

Whats being rebranded? 980 to 980Ti? Rebranding is only a negative when same card, same performance is offered at same price with new name. None of that applies to the card in question in this thread.

OH so they couldn't cut down a titan call it a 980TI it wouldn't be rebranding huh cause of different names LOLZ!
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[ocre]

More Loyal rebranding for the masses! I see all the lil minions selling the 970's for cheap!!!!
Team Green :hmm:

Wow,

Please tell me what are you trying to accomplish with this post?

There isn't a lot to look forward to now that we hear AMD cards aren't launching until H2. A 980ti would be great if this rumor is true. If your not interested in it, why are you posting in the thread?

Do you think you are being funny?

 

[stahlhart]

Stop taking troll bait, and stay on topic.
-- stahlhart

 

[mohit9206]

Titan X at $999,980Ti at $699,980 at $499,970 at $299,960 at $179,$750Ti at $129,750 at $99,740 at $79,730 at $59,720 at $39 and 610 at $19.
Yay i will finally be able to buy gt610 at $19.What a steal!!

 

[Hauk]

What nVidia should have is a double precision GM200 at $1000, and a GM200 gaming card at $699. How about a redo nv?

Titan-x owners can sell their cards for $850ish and grab the new Titan-X2

 

[Subyman]

What nVidia should have is a double precision GM200 at $1000, and a GM200 gaming card at $699. How about a redo nv?

Titan-x owners can sell their cards for $850ish and grab the new Titan-X2

From what I understand, Maxwell wasn't designed for DP.

 

[5150Joker]

From what I understand, Maxwell wasn't designed for DP.

And moving forward, seems like none of their new cards will be either since DP isn't as important to NVIDIA anymore from what I read a while back.

 

[Cloudfire777]

And moving forward, seems like none of their new cards will be either since DP isn't as important to NVIDIA anymore from what I read a while back.

Seems like they are back to the two lines Quadro - Geforce.
Fine by me, as long as they can get the 980Ti on the market asap. Titan X is pushing it in price. I mean I`m used to paying $1000 for GPUs for notebooks, but I`m more comfortable with $500-700 range

 

[railven]

Wow, if this pans out to be accurate on the release date. If the specs are just 6GB Titan X with higher clocks, I'm sold at $650-700.

 

[DearLord]

On the one hand, I'm always excited when a new higher-end card comes out, if only to see technological evolution at work. But at this point, I feel like someone on a budget who has a halfway decent card (like myself) is really looking forward most to the advances to be seen with the combination of 16nm and hbm. The 980ti looks to be a sweet card for about a year, and then I suspect it will look quite passe...

 

[scooterlibby]

The price/performance has been more-so incremental and evolutionary, 699 may even be deemed some value now by today's pricing.

The 8800 Ultra would be $791 in inflation adjusted dollars. Not too much has changed.

 

[Hauk]

The 8800 Ultra would be $791 in inflation adjusted dollars. Not too much has changed.

good example.. 8800 Ultra was my first uber card, paid $649

 

[SimianR]

If this rumor is actually true, is NVIDIA not creating a situation where no one wants to buy their flagship Titan cards anymore? It seems like an odd strategy to sell one card as your "extreme high end flagship" for $1000+ and then release a faster card a few months later for less...

 

[RussianSensation]

The 8800 Ultra would be $791 in inflation adjusted dollars. Not too much has changed.

1. 8800 Ultra is a bad example. It cost $830 at launch and it was only 5-6% faster than the $599-650 8800GTX. Since then 280/480/580 were all $499 (although 280 launched at $649 but it quickly dropped to $499). GTX285 was $399 and that was the flagship.

2. Then starting with GK204 (680), mid-range prices at least doubled from $200-249 of GTX460 1GB/560Ti to $500-580 for 680 2-4GB versions. GTX780Ti increased from $499 of 280/480/580 and $399 of 285 to $699. If 6600GT, 7900GT, GTX460, 560Ti sold at $499 and 5950GTX280/480/580 sold at $699 each generation, you would have a point.

3. Even if we go way back, 9800XT was $499, 9800Pro (equivalent to a GTX780 high-end flagship) was $399. 5900Ultra was $499. So your 8800Ultra example is actually an outlier, not the norm. NV has consistently sold flagships at $499-599, 2nd tier flagships at $349-399 (5900XT, GTX275/GTX470/570) and mid-range at $200-250. In fact, the large die GTX275 was below $300 iirc. That would be the equivalent of selling a GTX780 for $299-349.

4. Inflation is a tricky concept because Intel's prices have barely changed in 10 years but NV increased GPU prices 50-100% in 1 generation starting with Kepler. Secondly, NV shows a spike in gross margins from mid-to-high 30s during Fermi generation, to mid-to-high 40s during Kepler and these have climbed to 53-56% over the last 4 quarters. Therefore, things have definitely changed -- GPUs cost more than ever for the performance level they are targeted at.

The current $550 MSRP for a 980 - a mid-range x04 chip - was reserved for NV's flagships. GTX980 would have been a GTX960/960Ti if we look back at history of NV. I mean the < 15% increase over 780Ti in overall performance already proves that 980 is not a true flagship successor, but it is priced nearly as one.

 

[Head1985]

1. 8800 Ultra is a bad example. It cost $830 at launch and it was only 5-6% faster than the $599-650 8800GTX. Since then 280/480/580 were all $499 (although 280 launched at $649 but it quickly dropped to $499). GTX285 was $399 and that was the flagship.

2. Then starting with GK204 (680), mid-range prices at least doubled from $200-249 of GTX460 1GB/560Ti to $500-580 for 680 2-4GB versions. GTX780Ti increased from $499 of 280/480/580 and $399 of 285 to $699. If 6600GT, 7900GT, GTX460, 560Ti sold at $499 and 5950GTX280/480/580 sold at $699 each generation, you would have a point.

3. Even if we go way back, 9800XT was $499, 9800Pro (equivalent to a GTX780 high-end flagship) was $399. 5900Ultra was $499. So your 8800Ultra example is actually an outlier, not the norm. NV has consistently sold flagships at $499-599, 2nd tier flagships at $349-399 (5900XT, GTX275/GTX470/570) and mid-range at $200-250. In fact, the large die GTX275 was below $300 iirc. That would be the equivalent of selling a GTX780 for $299-349.

4. Inflation is a tricky concept because Intel's prices have barely changed in 10 years but NV increased GPU prices 50-100% in 1 generation starting with Kepler. Secondly, NV shows a spike in gross margins from mid-to-high 30s during Fermi generation, to mid-to-high 40s during Kepler and these have climbed to 53-56% over the last 4 quarters. Therefore, things have definitely changed -- GPUs cost more than ever for the performance level they are targeted at.

The current $550 MSRP for a 980 - a mid-range x04 chip - was reserved for NV's flagships. GTX980 would have been a GTX960/960Ti if we look back at history of NV. I mean the < 15% increase over 780Ti in overall performance already proves that 980 is not a true flagship successor, but it is priced nearly as one.

You have 100% right.
But problem is there no competition at all from AMD.Thats why NV can charge that much.
GTX680-mid-range GPU GTX560TI successor was faster than anything AMD have at that time: 7970.And then GTX580 and 780TI successor was just another level performance and AMD didnt beat it even with hawaii.
Maxwell ist just same story.GTX980 mid-rage GPU is faster than anything amd have: 290x.

AMD need start compete just like ATI or NV will charge whatever they want.

Imagine if GTX460 was faster than 5870.Thats pretty much what happened with GTX680 vs 7970.

 

[S.H.O.D.A.N.]

Not buying the May release date at all. Unless Nvidia knows something about 390X that we do not (and they don't), there is no point in releasing a new card when your current offering is more than enough to maintain and increase your lead. No one is going to tell me the 980s and Titans are not selling well enough.

 

[VirtualLarry]

Sigh. I realize that some of you have more disposable income to spend on gaming apparatus than I, and are encouraged if there is a Titan X ($1000)-level card that is going to come out for $699 or around that. To me, that's still WAAAAY too expensive.

I splashed out for a pair of 7950 HIS 3GB cards when Newegg had them on fire-sale a few months ago for ~$130. That's close to the ceiling of what I'm willing to pay for a GPU. Under $200, certainly. To me, 750ti is way overpriced too (OK, I think all NV cards are), and the GTX960 was too low-performing for the price. So, for now at least, I'm happy with what I have.

It would be nice to see a $200-250 card, with HBM, that would be nearly orders-of-magnitude faster than existing cards of that range (GTX960).

Edit: Wasn't someone saying that the GTX960 2GB is basically similar performance-wise to a 660ti? If so, that just shows how performance at the mid-range (mid-low now, I guess) has stagnated.

 

[Majcric]

Not buying the May release date at all. Unless Nvidia knows something about 390X that we do not (and they don't), there is no point in releasing a new card when your current offering is more than enough to maintain and increase your lead. No one is going to tell me the 980s and Titans are not selling well enough.

I wouldn't be so sure about Nvidia or <insert rival company here> not knowing or at least having a pretty good Idea of what is going on with the other.

As for the May launch all I can say is I hope it's true I'll at least take one.

 

[3DVagabond]

The 8800 Ultra would be $791 in inflation adjusted dollars. Not too much has changed.

You can't just choose a random point in time to make your point. You also can't just apply the mean inflation rate. Especially to electronics. Most (almost all) tech is actually cheaper. How much were big screen TV's in the 8800's day?

The GTX 580 adjusted for inflation would cost ~$607usd not $1000. All of that "inflation" happened in one generation.

If this rumor is actually true, is NVIDIA not creating a situation where no one wants to buy their flagship Titan cards anymore? It seems like an odd strategy to sell one card as your "extreme high end flagship" for $1000+ and then release a faster card a few months later for less...

Worked last time. People don't seem to care.

 

[cbrunny]

980ti still expected between the 16th and 26th?

 

[exar333]

If this rumor is actually true, is NVIDIA not creating a situation where no one wants to buy their flagship Titan cards anymore? It seems like an odd strategy to sell one card as your "extreme high end flagship" for $1000+ and then release a faster card a few months later for less...

Essentially an 'early tax'?

 

[Black Octagon]

980ti still expected between the 16th and 26th?

Don't you mean rumored?

 

[Creig]

AMD need start compete just like ATI or NV will charge whatever they want.

Imagine if GTX460 was faster than 5870.Thats pretty much what happened with GTX680 vs 7970.

Please stop with the "It's AMD's fault that Nvidia charges so much for their video cards" rhetoric. It is SOOOO old and SOOOO wrong. Nvidia is free to charge however much they want for their video cards. AMD doesn't have a say in the matter.

Look at the Titan Z vs the R9 295X2. AMD released the 295X2 first. It was quieter, cooler and faster. It was also $1,500. Then Nvidia released the Titan Z and charged..... $3,000. AMD had Nvidia beat in nearly every respect and yet Nvidia didn't drop their asking price one single cent.

And how about the 290X vs 980? You can pick up an aftermarket cooled 290X these days for $280 or less while the 980 is still $530+. The 290X is only around 10%-15% slower than the 980 and yet it's nearly half the price! And the Titan X at $1,000? No thanks. You can go Tri-Fire 290X instead and still have money left over.

Honestly, the only way Nvidia fans are going to get cheaper Nvidia cards is to stop buying them at such ridiculous prices. As long as Nvidia keeps selling their higher end cards for $500-$1,000 each, they're not going to drop their prices. Why would they? People still keep buying them. So either switch to AMD, stop buying Nvidia high end cards or hold onto your current Nvidia card longer. Those are the only ways I see to get Nvidia to drop their current pricing structure.

 

[moonbogg]

Just give me the damn 980ti's already. I'll spend the money, throw up a little, get over it, game on.

 

[A.t]

I might sell my 980 when it launches right away and buy one, it's been the limiting factor in my machine because of my UHD TV due to its lack of processing power, and recently, VRAM in certain titles.

Though, if I only had a 30 inch monitor and a 980 SLI I would not buy these cards at all. Because a 980 will do most things you want as long as you're under UHD, and with two there pretty much is nothing they won't pull off at 2560x1600. Another thing to mention is 980's efficiency, it's a more efficient card than the Titan X so it might be more efficient than the 980 Ti as well.