Yea that's how I remember it too. The first rumor I heard of what the neo. Then 2 weeks later I saw an article about MS and how they weren't going to follow the same lead.
Yea that's how I remember it too. The first rumor I heard of what the neo. Then 2 weeks later I saw an article about MS and how they weren't going to follow the same lead.It seems Sony were the ones that set the trap. There were rumors of an upgraded PS4 long before there was anything about an upgraded Xbox. Microsoft made the first movie so now Sony has time to see what Microsoft is offering and has time to one up them. Microsoft should have never announced their faster console this far in advance.
How the hell is this going to manage 4k gaming when a 1080 can't quite manage it across all titles as it is? Nothing AMD has can match that. Maybe Vega, but that GPU alone would cost more than the Xbox itself.
Same upscaling crap as usual.
It seems Sony were the ones that set the trap. There were rumors of an upgraded PS4 long before there was anything about an upgraded Xbox. Microsoft made the first movie so now Sony has time to see what Microsoft is offering and has time to one up them. Microsoft should have never announced their faster console this far in advance.
Specifically when asked about the power gap, he tried to downplay it as much as possible.
“Is that going to be the end-all, be-all of the gaming experience? No,” he said. “I think more than anything else today, we’re seeing the power of narrative move the gaming business forward more than ever before.”
Didn't Phill Spencer say something like "we don't see the necessity for a new console at this time" in an attempt to squash rumors?
It seems Sony were the ones that set the trap. There were rumors of an upgraded PS4 long before there was anything about an upgraded Xbox. Microsoft made the first movie so now Sony has time to see what Microsoft is offering and has time to one up them. Microsoft should have never announced their faster console this far in advance.
Sony Addresses The Power Gap Between PS4 Neo and Xbox One Scorpio
Kind of funny seeing the Sony execs downplay the power gap considering how the start of this gen went!
He specifically said he didn't like the idea of incremental upgrades. If Microsoft was going to do an upgrade they were going to make it a very large jump.
At the time maybe it sounded like it was trying to squash rumors but it was likely more a potshot at the Neo when the rumors started floating about it coming in October with essentially an overclocked version of what we have now.
Yes it has been confirmed that it is slightly more powerful than a normal Xbone.Where is it ever said the S is an O/C? It simply has the hardware to allow 4K media, something that got discussed ad nauseum in another thread.
I'm glad that guy was finally shown wrong.
LOL! No.
Neither Sony nor Microsoft wait until the other publicly announces it to know. They each knew EXACTLY what the other was up to.
As a purveyor of UHD TVs and BD players, Sony is being forced to move first. It's unavoidable pressure to release the Neo with no delay or significantly higher spec bump than was already planned. Sony is now stuck announcing the inferior product AFTER Microsoft, which is exactly how Microsoft wanted it. They hold all the cards right now.
Kind of the same assumptions being made in the gpu threads right now too.The neo in all likelihood won't be inferior at all. I don't know where you guys are pulling that from. Sony never announced any specs. They can easily go to AMD and work out details that allow the neo to outperform the new Xbox.
Sony leads the market, they have yet to announce specs which is important to note because everyone is making blind assumptions about what the performance will be, they know what the competition has planned to boot. Microsoft has a bunch of titles coming that are not exclusives, you can play them on Windows 10. How you claim that is a win for Microsoft is beyond me.
Where is it ever said the S is an O/C? It simply has the hardware to allow 4K media, something that got discussed ad nauseum in another thread.
I'm glad that guy was finally shown wrong.
It's clocked a bit faster, a bit like how a SnapDragon 801 is a bin-sorted and overclocked SnapDragon 800.BGR said:More than just a miniaturized Xbox One, the S model has slightly more processing power than the original in order to support High Dynamic Range (HDR) gaming. Its not quite 4K, but its a noticeable graphical improvements.
Reports are now suggesting the cheaper $300 S model is being delayed, with the more expensive 2tb being the only S available at first. The cheaper models apparently are to be phased in after that, presumably so the kids needing to be the first one on the block to have one can be milked the hardest ala Founders Edition syndrome.
The neo in all likelihood won't be inferior at all. I don't know where you guys are pulling that from. Sony never announced any specs. They can easily go to AMD and work out details that allow the neo to outperform the new Xbox.
Sony leads the market, they have yet to announce specs which is important to note because everyone is making blind assumptions about what the performance will be, they know what the competition has planned to boot. Microsoft has a bunch of titles coming that are not exclusives, you can play them on Windows 10. How you claim that is a win for Microsoft is beyond me.
Didn't Phill Spencer say something like "we don't see the necessity for a new console at this time" in an attempt to squash rumors?
Honesty they will both do the same crap. Both will be slightly more powerful than the current and support 4k content. Neither system is going to play games at 4k right now.
I don't think either the S or the neo will be more powerful than each other. Games will look slightly better and possibly have better frame rate.
In that case yea the new 2017 Xbox will most likely have an edge unless Sony also does a remodel. Which makes me think they would eventually unless neo was all they planned for.We weren't talking about the S vs. Neo, we were talking about the 2017 XBOX One vs. Neo. Look at the topic of this thread. I know it can get confusing because there are TWO XBOX One upgrades, but I've explained it enough times already.
There are already games in development so it's probably too late for them to change the specs. Yet again they will be behind in power and not get games ported today their console.I wonder if Nintendo is going to do any rethinking on the NX? Their specs were not too impressive, basically similar to an Xbox one. I think hardware is one of the main things people have been complaining about since the Wii. It would be nice if they went back to their SNES style of thinking by waiting a year after the others and introduce a more powerful system with a pack in mario game. if Sony/MS comes out with updated hardware, Nintendo could wait a year and hit that in between cycle with slightly more powerful hardware each time, letting MS and Sony dictate the pace of hardware updates...but Nintendo probably needs to go x86, not sure if PPC architectures have comparable updates with their cpu's or not.
Which leads me to another thing, the pack in game thing works but would be interesting if they would create a specific Mario series reserved for inclusion of each new console rather than sell a console bare bones. Even if it was just a new 2d SMB's, something cheaper to produce but would help with initial sales if they forgo any premium to have it included like they do with bundles.
There are already games in development so it's probably too late for them to change the specs. Yet again they will be behind in power and not get games ported today their console.