[Rumor] RX 480 Overclocking 1500+Mhz

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Elixer

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We'll find out soon enough, but if rumours are true only Radeon RX 480 8GB will make it to stores this month (unknown stocks), while others come later.
Let's see, launch date is June 29th.
There are 30 days in June.

That pretty much means you will only see 480s in June, that is all AMD promised.
 

3DVagabond

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I don't expect the cards to be fully utilized, but AMD has at least recently shown lower gaming performance per FLOP than the competition, as well as a larger delta in power consumption between gaming and compute. Case in point, 3.8TFLOPS for 7970 vs 3.1 for a GTX680 or ~6TFLOPs for a 390X vs 4.6 for a 980.

Obviously compute workloads vary (Bitcoin mining would draw less power than some games for example due to essentially zero MC load), but a shrinking delta between compute and graphics workloads would be welcome if it was caused by better gaming utilisation of the GPU resources. Hopefully as developers come to grips with DX12 and more games are released this starts to happen more.

What people are saying is you can't compare power usage on such different loads is all.
 

Mopetar

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Let's see, launch date is June 29th.
There are 30 days in June.

That pretty much means you will only see 480s in June, that is all AMD promised.

It's one of those technically correct statements, but in reality Polaris is an early Q3 product. I still think Global Foundries had/has production and process issues because AMD was showing off working silicon in January so something had to have gone wrong.

At least they should have better volume than Nvidia so that people can actually buy one without camping out websites or hoping to be able to buy a card within minutes of getting an availability email.
 
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At least they should have better volume than Nvidia so that people can actually buy one without camping out websites or hoping to be able to buy a card within minutes of getting an availability email.

It's common to have a staggered launch of different SKUs. RX 480, then RX 470 & 460. Could be a few weeks out, gives time to digest news and benches, then later release another one and the media cycle is extended.

As for availability, I can't say for other regions, but my etailer/retailer buddies here have confirmed they have a lot of stock. In fact, they have had cards a week ago and are building volume for the launch. Price wise, I am told it will be close to exchange + 10% GST + distributer business profit margin, when compared to 1070 and 1080 which are inflated.

In the USA, the danger will be Etherium miners. They will hoard RX 480 due to the perf/w which directly translate to $$ profit.

Ultimately you can't paper launch a mainstream GPU series, it will massively hurt your business because demand for these cheaper GPUs are very high.

ie. https://twitter.com/KMoamm/status/744701513621176324/photo/1
 

Bacon1

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It's common to have a staggered launch of different SKUs. RX 480, then RX 470 & 460. Could be a few weeks out, gives time to digest news and benches, then later release another one and the media cycle is extended.

Yep, kind of what another GPU manufacturer just did, except they made you pay more to buy it early because they rushed release.

Can't wait for these cards to launch, will be a small upgrade from my 290 at worst while using less power and will have all of the new features like PLP eyefinity.
 

IllogicalGlory

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http://wccftech.com/amd-rx-480-overclocked-1600mhz-cooler-detailed/

1,600 Mhz... It would be interesting to know if clocking this high is stable, and what they are using to cool it clocked so high. 10 days is too long!
1,607 MHz to be exact...

What's the base clock of a GTX 1080? What does the number in parentheses display in that screengrab of 3DMark?

The answer is 1,607 and the base clock respectively. My guess is that we're looking at a hacked GTX 1080.
 
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Yep, kind of what another GPU manufacturer just did, except they made you pay more to buy it early because they rushed release.

Can't wait for these cards to launch, will be a small upgrade from my 290 at worst while using less power and will have all of the new features like PLP eyefinity.

nVidia put a gun to your head and made buy their card?? Wow. Still dont see why people are so butthurt about this. If you dont want to pay the price, simply wait, like you would have had to do anyway if nVidia had waited until they had more stock before release.
 

moonbogg

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If this thing performs anywhere near a 1070 and cost $300, its going to be just what we needed. Nvidia needs a healthy smack to the face and I'm hoping this card delivers that.
 

Elixer

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It's one of those technically correct statements, but in reality Polaris is an early Q3 product. I still think Global Foundries had/has production and process issues because AMD was showing off working silicon in January so something had to have gone wrong.
I dislike GloFlo for many reasons and we will never know what issue(s) they have since they are a private company, and don't got anyone looking over their shoulders, and I think they also have a NDA about what is allowed to be said by their partners.

That said, we just don't know enough about how many lines, how many orders and how many fabs are being used to make AMD specific stuff. With Sony, MS, Nintendo (and even Apple), they all would get their orders prioritized before any consumer launch line.

AMD is actually doing better under the lead of Lisa, and I doubt they will run the risk of having multiple fabs produce what they need, unless they had guaranteed orders which translates to, business orders first, consumer lines bringing up the rear.

If AMD was flush with cash, things could have been different, but they are trying to dig themselves out of a hole.
 

DiogoDX

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1,607 MHz to be exact...

What's the base clock of a GTX 1080? What does the number in parentheses display in that screengrab of 3DMark?

The answer is 1,607 and the base clock respectively. My guess is that we're looking at a hacked GTX 1080.
Is from the same guy for the first leak with a misterious 6+8 pin card with changed cooler.

So is probably a elaborated fake.
 

dark zero

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1,607 MHz to be exact...

What's the base clock of a GTX 1080? What does the number in parentheses display in that screengrab of 3DMark?

The answer is 1,607 and the base clock respectively. My guess is that we're looking at a hacked GTX 1080.
We need to see the Double Precission in order to confirm or deny it. DP on Pascal is an absolute dissaster.
 

IEC

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We need to see the Double Precission in order to confirm or deny it. DP on Pascal is an absolute dissaster.

DP doesn't matter for gaming.

It's better if you waste fewer transistors on things you don't need for gaming.
 

3DVagabond

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I dislike GloFlo for many reasons and we will never know what issue(s) they have since they are a private company, and don't got anyone looking over their shoulders, and I think they also have a NDA about what is allowed to be said by their partners.

That said, we just don't know enough about how many lines, how many orders and how many fabs are being used to make AMD specific stuff. With Sony, MS, Nintendo (and even Apple), they all would get their orders prioritized before any consumer launch line.

AMD is actually doing better under the lead of Lisa, and I doubt they will run the risk of having multiple fabs produce what they need, unless they had guaranteed orders which translates to, business orders first, consumer lines bringing up the rear.

If AMD was flush with cash, things could have been different, but they are trying to dig themselves out of a hole.

Well, Gibbo @ OCUK says they have plenty of stock. The quote was "Ample, I repeat AMPLE!". Later, when asked if he'd sell more than 1000 in a month he said. "In a month for sure, I am actually hoping to sell 500+ on day one!"

That doesn't sound like limited stock because all these other players have snatched up everything. There's a reason AMD has waited until now to release these cards. In the past we likely would have seen them months ago with no stock and immature drivers. I think Lisa is running a different, tighter ship.
 

3DVagabond

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Hopefully it'll be a disaster on polaris as well.

Well it's not likely to be a disaster. It is still GCN. Although I'd be shocked if it were 1/4 as good as Hawaii, which is monstrous.

I suppose that Vega could be the next Hawaii level compute card? Seeing as how they don't plan on making a high end Polaris GPU.
 

antihelten

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Well, Gibbo @ OCUK says they have plenty of stock. The quote was "Ample, I repeat AMPLE!". Later, when asked if he'd sell more than 1000 in a month he said. "In a month for sure, I am actually hoping to sell 500+ on day one!"

That doesn't sound like limited stock because all these other players have snatched up everything. There's a reason AMD has waited until now to release these cards. In the past we likely would have seen them months ago with no stock and immature drivers. I think Lisa is running a different, tighter ship.

In comparison it would appear that it took OCUK roughly 3 weeks to cross the 1000 units shipped number with the GTX 1080 (being mainly supply limited since they apparently sold 5 times this amount), so it doesn't look like GloFo will be an issue, at least no more so than TSMC has been for Nvidia.

Well it's not likely to be a disaster. It is still GCN. Although I'd be shocked if it were 1/4 as good as Hawaii, which is monstrous.

Hawaii was actually capable of 1/2 ratio for DP (but was artificially limited in radeon cards)
 
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3DVagabond

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In comparison it would appear that it took OCUK roughly 3 weeks to cross the 1000 unit number with the GTX 1080 (being mainly supply limited I'm assuming), so it doesn't look like GloFo will be an issue, at least no more so than TSMC has been for Nvidia.

How do you suppose that correlates to 480 availability? I mean if they sold 1000 1080's in "3 weeks" and plan on selling 500 480's day one.
 

antihelten

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How do you suppose that correlates to 480 availability? I mean if they sold 1000 1080's in "3 weeks" and plan on selling 500 480's day one.

It should mean that they have more than enough to at least match the 1080 numbers, and thus Glofo would seem to have done a decent job on that front.
 

littleg

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As far as I understand it, they didn't sell 1000 since launch, they sold 5000 but have only shipped 1000 due to constrained supply.

I think a lot of people (i'm one of them) just won't order something if it shows up as out of stock so it's likely that they could have sold over the 5000 mark if they had adequate supply.

480s are apparently going to be plentiful so they shouldn't have that problem and you'd expect them to sell a lot more at that price point anyway.
 

antihelten

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As far as I understand it, they didn't sell 1000 since launch, they sold 5000 but have only shipped 1000 due to constrained supply.

I think a lot of people (i'm one of them) just won't order something if it shows up as out of stock so it's likely that they could have sold over the 5000 mark if they had adequate supply.

480s are apparently going to be plentiful so they shouldn't have that problem and you'd expect them to sell a lot more at that price point anyway.

True the 1000 number for the 1080 is shipped not sold. The thing is though that Gibbo said he expected to sell 500 RX 480s on day 1, and then later said that they already have the stock, so in this case sale should more or less equal shipped.
 

Stuka87

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I am hoping that with there being such good supply, that AIB cards sooner rather than later.
 

Yakk

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Well, Gibbo @ OCUK says they have plenty of stock. The quote was "Ample, I repeat AMPLE!". Later, when asked if he'd sell more than 1000 in a month he said. "In a month for sure, I am actually hoping to sell 500+ on day one!"

That doesn't sound like limited stock because all these other players have snatched up everything. There's a reason AMD has waited until now to release these cards. In the past we likely would have seen them months ago with no stock and immature drivers. I think Lisa is running a different, tighter ship.

Looks like stock is even more impressive than I would've thought!

"We have the stock already, all booked in and ready to go on one brand."

https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=29653754&postcount=4777

Just one brand? Wow, looks like everyone got plenty!
 
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