[Rumor] RX 480 Overclocking 1500+Mhz

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Mopetar

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Still seems a bit higher than desired. Much like with the 1070/1080, I think it will be more worthwhile for the third party cards with custom cooling solutions to come out.
 

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nah, 70-75c for reference is 100% ok. you want oc? get AIBs. even AIB cards are around 70c for the xx60 cards from the past.

somehow amd reference has to be the same as AIBs?
 

poofyhairguy

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So to recap:

Once again the reference cards suck, but that is all we will get at first?

Damn, this is making me nervous now. I really want an AIB card so I can OC past my 390x, but I am terrified miners are going to keep prices jacked up unless I get on the first shipment of 480s before they sell out in a day and Newegg starts their price games.

Decisions decisions.
 

Mopetar

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I thought there was a rumor from a while back that the 480 wasn't so much better for mining than current cards that it was a no questions purchase, but who knows how much truth there was to that.

If older generation cards get deep discounts to clear stock, miners might pick those up instead.
 

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Still seems a bit higher than desired. Much like with the 1070/1080, I think it will be more worthwhile for the third party cards with custom cooling solutions to come out.

Fan speed topped out at 57%.... please stop with the ridiculous claims until some actual reviews come out.
 
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Fan speed topped out at 57%.... please stop with the ridiculous claims until some actual reviews come out.

That gives a lot of hope. When i game, i use a pair of headphones. I would be totally fine with 100% fan speed while gaming. But i have to wait anyway for AIB cards because i am traversing the market for a 2 hdmi output or hdmi with dvi-d output. 3 display ports with one hdmi port is no use for me. I will need to get converters, so i might as well wait what comes available. A better cooler is a plus for me.
 

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All the people worried about 80c.... my X800 AIW unlocked on a X800TX-PE ran in gaming load at 115c for years...................D: til it died.....
 
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All the people worried about 80c.... my X800 AIW unlocked on a X800TX-PE ran in gaming load at 115c for years...................D: til it died.....

That is my worry. A few years ago my game pc had a Geforce 6600GT AGP overclocked to 600MHz core and memory to 500MHz for 5 to 6 years constant.

I used a zalman all copper cooler and a aftermarket as large as possible cooler i could fit on the agp to gpu (HSI)bridge. It hold on for years until it finally broke down.
It just gave up beyond repair.

I am happy that it hold out long enough to get an APU. I am fine with it when the RX 480 holds out another 5 to 6 years worst case(forgot to say, with after market cooler or AIB cooler).
 
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IntelUser2000

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I thought there was a rumor from a while back that the 480 wasn't so much better for mining than current cards that it was a no questions purchase, but who knows how much truth there was to that.

If older generation cards get deep discounts to clear stock, miners might pick those up instead.

Profit = Total revenue from mining - Power costs - Hardware investment

Unless its significantly worse(15-16MH/s) than current generation at similar prices, it'll be always better to get the most current card, in this case RX 480 over maybe/somewhat cheaper current solutions.

And based on the specs it wasn't going to be significantly worse. 1792SP, 256-bit memory older GCN uarch R9 380X gets ~20MH/s. How can a new architecture, 2304SPs, 15% higher core speed with faster 256-bit memory be slower than that?

And early leaks suggest 24MH/s. Either you will keep the card to mine other coins when you can't mine Ethereum anymore, or sell it on ebay/craigslist when its done. Either way, recouping the costs are still significant part of net profit.

Case 1, Sell RX 480 after Ethereum is over: RX 480 will have far better resale value than current discounted cards. Especially really old ones like 290X. Lower power costs on the RX 480 means its more profitable until end of Ethereum mining.

Case 2, Keep RX 480 after Ethereum is over for gaming: It'll be a better gaming card with better games support, better features(which benefit you in some scenarios even if the performance is same)

Case 3, Keep RX 480 for mining other coins after Ethereum is over: Newer cards are better for longevity, power costs are lower meaning lower profit coins stay profitable for longer.

No reason not to wait for Polaris.
 
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Profit = Total revenue from mining - Power costs - Hardware investment

Unless its significantly worse(15-16MH/s) than current generation at similar prices, it'll be always better to get the most current card, in this case RX 480 over maybe/somewhat cheaper current solutions.

And based on the specs it wasn't going to be significantly worse. 1792SP, 256-bit memory older GCN uarch R9 380X gets ~20MH/s. How can a new architecture, 15% higher core speed with faster 256-bit memory be slower than that?

And early leaks suggest 24MH/s. Either you will keep the card to mine other coins when you can't mine Ethereum anymore, or sell it on ebay/craigslist when its done. Either way, recouping the costs are still significant part of net profit.

Case 1, Sell RX 480 after Ethereum is over: RX 480 will have far better resale value than current discounted cards. Especially really old ones like 290X. Lower power costs on the RX 480 means its more profitable until end of Ethereum mining.

Case 2, Keep RX 480 after Ethereum is over for gaming: It'll be a better gaming card with better games support, better features(which benefit you in some scenarios even if the performance is same)

Case 3, Keep RX 480 for mining other coins after Ethereum is over: Newer cards are better for longevity, power costs are lower meaning lower profit coins stay profitable for longer.

No reason not to wait for Polaris.

Yep. It seems GCN1.3 (GCN4) has a better instruction set that with updated miner software it really gives an advantage over older GCN versions. But i still wonder if that is really true. Older version had a 512 bit wide memory channel. But it was also lower clocked. And more compute shaders. Could it really be that polaris is that much more efficient in mining ? We will see it soon. I am sure there will be mining test suites added by selected reviewers.
 
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Mopetar

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Fan speed topped out at 57%.... please stop with the ridiculous claims until some actual reviews come out.

It was the same with the 1070/1080 where it would throttle at stock fan settings. Sure you can manually crank it up to 100% to run cooler or allow for a higher OC, but not everyone likes to listen to a blower at max spin.

If you've got a good pair of noise cancelling headphones go wild, but max load blower fan is right up their with screaming child in terms of annoying sounds. More and more leaks have been saying it's a good cooler at stock settings (much like the 1070/1080) but isn't great outside of that.

Go start a 480 Facts Only thread if you don't like talking about rumors.
 

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It was the same with the 1070/1080 where it would throttle at stock fan settings. Sure you can manually crank it up to 100% to run cooler or allow for a higher OC, but not everyone likes to listen to a blower at max spin.

If you've got a good pair of noise cancelling headphones go wild, but max load blower fan is right up their with screaming child in terms of annoying sounds. More and more leaks have been saying it's a good cooler at stock settings (much like the 1070/1080) but isn't great outside of that.

Go start a 480 Facts Only thread if you don't like talking about rumors.

Except we have no idea if it is throttling or not. With 1070/1080 there were actual reviews showing it throttling, not just a single screenshot with no context
 

Mopetar

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I never said it was, just that it was similar to FE Pascal in that it's probably best to get a third party card if you want to run above stock.
 

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sirmo

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Blowers can be desirible in cramped cases, like OEM computers, and server farms. This is why they make the blowers. And I've had decent reference cards, which run cool and quiet. Unless you OC ofcourse.

For rx480 I am going to wait for the AIB, not so much because of the cooler but because of the DVI port.
 

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On the bright side, the reference blower doesn't cost an additional $80-100 for the privilege of dealing with price-optimized versus performance-optimized coolers.

I'm more interested in seeing the difference in overclocking ability, if any, between the reference and custom models.
 

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Assuming it has adequate cooling for the GPU itself, I favor HSF that remove hot air from cases (real world scenarios, unlike open-air bench).
 

ZGR

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I hope it OC's well. I don't care if it consumes more power than a 390X to hit ~1500 MHz.
 
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