[Rumor] RX 480 Overclocking 1500+Mhz

[AtenRa]

3DMark performance isn't great either. You already disqualified DX11. So DX12 only left?

Im only disqualifying synthetic benchmarks in general, the ones you and some others started having a nice affection the last days

 

[ShintaiDK]

Yep, because it's a direct successor of mainstream Pitcairn GPU.

There is just 1 problem.
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/R9_270X/24.html

 

[JDG1980]

3DMark performance isn't great either.

Depends on which leaks you believe. WCCFTech puts it near Nano performance while VideoCardz has it down near 390. My personal suspicion is that the low benchmarks were the result of older drivers and/or BIOS that didn't properly support the 1266 MHz boost clock, so the card was actually running at the 1080 MHz base clock rate. I guess we'll know for sure in another 10 days.

 

[AtenRa]

There is just 1 problem.
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/R9_270X/24.html

And what problem exactly are we looking in that link ??

 

[caswow]

And what problem exactly are we looking in that link ??

i guess i know what he wants to say. 270x is 111 avg. power consumption but rx480 will very very certainly have 150watt of power consumption because amd TDP says so

dont you know? tdp = real power consumption :thumbsup:

 

[RussianSensation]

+1 Its like a couple names always show up in these threads just to bash AMD. I could make a list but I'm sure we all know who they are........

It's also interesting a lot of the hate is coming from current or ex-GTX980 owners -- one of the most overpriced cards from last generation. I guess if someone bought a $550-600 USD/EUR 980 less than 2 years ago, I could see how you'd be pissed when the competitor will have a card roughly as fast as the 980 in DX11 games, faster in DX12 games, with a superior feature set (DP1.3, HDMI 2.0b HDR support, full 4K video encode/decode), while also using less power and priced at only $199-249.

That's why they are resorting to using useless engineering metrics like perf/mm2 that 99.9% of consumers who buy GPUs don't care about (while hypocritically ignoring the same metric when NV trailed in it during GTX200-700 generations). Also, trying to discredit P10's perf/watt by using its overvolted overclock, while ignoring that Overvolting is just an optional feature is further confirmation of their incredible bias. After all, this was not brought up by the same people during GTX 460 OC days against 5850/5870/6870 when those Fermi cards overvolted easily used 200-220W. Just recently, they completely discredited Fury X's stock performance at 1440p/4K while usually citing 980Ti's overclocking headroom, but ignoring that power usage for the latter went up 100W to 350W:
https://www.overclockers.ru/lab/76273_4/obzor-i-testirovanie-videokarty-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080.html#14

They also blame AMD for high prices of NV cards due to "lack of competition", while finding any metric they can to discredit huge price/performance disruptions from AMD with HD4850/70, 5850/70, 6950, R9 290, and soon the RX 480.

Isn't it eye opening that NV is charging $100 for a GPU cooler but AMD is releasing an entire videocard for $199, and with a superior PCB/Power phase design.

When 1060 launches, they will use 6GB to discredit 480 4GB for 1080p gaming, while ignoring VRAM deficiency f 660Ti/670/680/770/780/780Ti/950/960/970/980 against 7950/7970/R9 280X/280/290/290X/390 throughout the entire generations.

When Vega cards launch, they will use $379/599 1070/1080 prices rather than the $449/699 they paid for FE cards. If AMD were to win in every metric, they will use the last resort of TXAA, PhysX, ShadowPlay, and "NV has better drivers". Textbook viral marketing/NV PR.

If AMD were to gain market share and release cards that are better than NV, you'd think it would entice NV to release even better products and/or lower prices. Yet, now they are changing the definition of "PC enthusiast" as someone who spends a lot of $, not someone who is passionate about PC hardware. So it seems they also feel a sense of pride paying more and more $$$ to be able to call themselves "PC enthusiasts".

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Back to 480's overclocking. 1500-1600mhz rumours are a big positive since that extra 10-20% of performance could be just enough to hit 60 FPS averages in almost all the major AAA games at 1080p 60Hz, thus negating the need to step-up to the 1070 for the 84% target market the 480 is aimed at. If 480 overclocks well and scales linearly to reach stock Fury X in performance, that will be the perfect 1080p 60Hz card until 1060/Ti shows up.

 

[happy medium]

It's also interesting a lot of the hate is coming from current or ex-GTX980 owners -- one of the most overpriced cards from last generation

If I bought a Evga gtx980 classified for 280$ shipped , would that be a good value.?
Overclocking brings the gtx980 to 92% of the performance of a gtx980ti.

How would that gtx980 stack up to say a 250$ 480 @ 390 performance?
Just want to get your input.

or I could also grab a Zotac extreme gtx980ti for $360, should I wait for the $250 480? Whats the best value do you think?
I don't play ashes or Hitman, just so you know.

 

[Glo.]

It's also interesting a lot of the hate is coming from current or ex-GTX980 owners -- one of the most overpriced cards from last generation. I guess if someone bought a $550-600 USD/EUR 980 less than 2 years ago, I could see how you'd be pissed when the competitor will have a card roughly as fast as the 980 in DX11 games, faster in DX12 games, with a superior feature set (DP1.3, HDMI 2.0b HDR support, full 4K video encode/decode), while also using less power and priced at only $199-249.

That's why they are resorting to using useless engineering metrics like perf/mm2 that 99.9% of consumers who buy GPUs don't care about (while hypocritically ignoring the same metric when NV trailed in it during GTX200-700 generations). Also, trying to discredit P10's perf/watt by using its overvolted overclock, while ignoring that Overvolting is just an optional feature is further confirmation of their incredible bias. After all, this was not brought up by the same people during GTX 460 OC days against 5850/5870/6870 when those Fermi cards overvolted easily used 200-220W. Just recently, they completely discredited Fury X's stock performance at 1440p/4K while always quantity 980Ti's overclocking headroom, but ignoring that power usage for the latter went up 100W to 350W:
https://www.overclockers.ru/lab/762...ie-videokarty-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080.html#14

They also blame AMD for high prices of NV cards due to "lack of competition", while finding any metric they can to discredit huge price/performance disruptions from AMD with HD4850/70, 5850/70, 6950, R9 290, and soon the RX 480.

Isn't it eye opening that NV is charging $100 for a GPU cooler but AMD is releasing an entire videocard for $199, and with a superior PCB/Power phase design.

When 1060 launches, they will use 6GB to discredit 480 4GB for 1080p gaming, while ignoring VRAM deficiency f 660Ti/670/680/770/780/780Ti/950/960/970/980 against 7950/7970/R9 280X/280/290/290X/390 throughout the entire generations.

When Vega cards launch, they will use $379/599 1070/1080 prices rather than the $449/699 they paid for FE cards. If AMD were to win in every metric, they will use the last resort of TXAA, PhysX, ShadowPlay, and "NV has better drivers". Textbook viral marketing/NV PR.

If AMD were to gain market share and release cards that are better than NV, you'd think it would entice NV to release even better products and/or lower prices. Yet, now they are changing the definition of "PC enthusiast" as someone who spends a lot of $, not someone who is passionate about PC hardware. So it seems they also feel a sense of pride paying more and more $$$ to be able to call themselves "PC enthusiasts".

----

Back to 480's overclocking. 1500-1600mhz rumours are a big positive since that extra 10-20% of performance could be just enough to hit 60 FPS averages in almost all the major AAA games at 1080p 60Hz, thus negating the need to step-up to the 1070 for the 84% target market the 480 is aimed at. If 480 overclocks well and scales linearly to reach stock Fury X in performance, that will be the perfect 1080p 60Hz card until 1060/Ti shows up.

That is possible the best off-top I have ever came across in any technological forum. Thanks RS for great entertainment .

 

[kraatus77]

If I bought a Evga gtx980 classified for 280$ shipped , would that be a good value.?
Overclocking brings the gtx980 to 92% of the performance of a gtx980ti.

How would that gtx980 stack up to say a 250$ 480 @ 390 performance?
Just want to get your input.

or I could also grab a Zotac extreme gtx980ti for $360, should I wait for the $250 480? Whats the best value do you think?
I don't play ashes or Hitman, just so you know.

we don't know that yet, plus you can oc 480 too.

regardless one particular scenario doesn't matter for all and everyone. if it does than why even look at amd, just keep buying used nvidia and say by to amd for good.

sometimes you people really amaze me with your absurd logic.

 

[poohbear]

Anyone who OC's is obviously waving good bye to perf/watt. The point is when you can buy a $300 part that competes with a $400 one a few $ per year for the extra power usage is well worth it. Plus you can use that extra $100 towards a nice new freesync monitor and have a much better experience.

For ppl on a desktop, who exactly cares about performance per watt? Computers used to be 600wts back in the day with the larger nm CPUs & gpus. Nobody complained back then.

 

[AtenRa]

I don't play ashes or Hitman, just so you know.

Do you play Total War : Warhammer ??? Do you play Quantum Brake ???
Will you try DOOM on Vulkan ??
Will you play Deus Ex : Mankind divided ??
How about BF1 and Watch Dog 2 ??

Those are 2016 titles, there are more in 2017 like the new Pray and perhaps Halo 5 among others.

You can buy a $280 4GB GTX 980 and have inferior performance and higher power consumption than a cheaper 8GB RX 480.

 

[swilli89]

It's also interesting a lot of the hate is coming from current or ex-GTX980 owners -- one of the most overpriced cards from last generation. I guess if someone bought a $550-600 USD/EUR 980 less than 2 years ago, I could see how you'd be pissed when the competitor will have a card roughly as fast as the 980 in DX11 games, faster in DX12 games, with a superior feature set (DP1.3, HDMI 2.0b HDR support, full 4K video encode/decode), while also using less power and priced at only $199-249.

That's why they are resorting to using useless engineering metrics like perf/mm2 that 99.9% of consumers who buy GPUs don't care about (while hypocritically ignoring the same metric when NV trailed in it during GTX200-700 generations). Also, trying to discredit P10's perf/watt by using its overvolted overclock, while ignoring that Overvolting is just an optional feature is further confirmation of their incredible bias. After all, this was not brought up by the same people during GTX 460 OC days against 5850/5870/6870 when those Fermi cards overvolted easily used 200-220W. Just recently, they completely discredited Fury X's stock performance at 1440p/4K while always quantity 980Ti's overclocking headroom, but ignoring that power usage for the latter went up 100W to 350W:
https://www.overclockers.ru/lab/762...ie-videokarty-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080.html#14

They also blame AMD for high prices of NV cards due to "lack of competition", while finding any metric they can to discredit huge price/performance disruptions from AMD with HD4850/70, 5850/70, 6950, R9 290, and soon the RX 480.

Isn't it eye opening that NV is charging $100 for a GPU cooler but AMD is releasing an entire videocard for $199, and with a superior PCB/Power phase design.

When 1060 launches, they will use 6GB to discredit 480 4GB for 1080p gaming, while ignoring VRAM deficiency f 660Ti/670/680/770/780/780Ti/950/960/970/980 against 7950/7970/R9 280X/280/290/290X/390 throughout the entire generations.

When Vega cards launch, they will use $379/599 1070/1080 prices rather than the $449/699 they paid for FE cards. If AMD were to win in every metric, they will use the last resort of TXAA, PhysX, ShadowPlay, and "NV has better drivers". Textbook viral marketing/NV PR.

If AMD were to gain market share and release cards that are better than NV, you'd think it would entice NV to release even better products and/or lower prices. Yet, now they are changing the definition of "PC enthusiast" as someone who spends a lot of $, not someone who is passionate about PC hardware. So it seems they also feel a sense of pride paying more and more $$$ to be able to call themselves "PC enthusiasts".

----

Back to 480's overclocking. 1500-1600mhz rumours are a big positive since that extra 10-20% of performance could be just enough to hit 60 FPS averages in almost all the major AAA games at 1080p 60Hz, thus negating the need to step-up to the 1070 for the 84% target market the 480 is aimed at. If 480 overclocks well and scales linearly to reach stock Fury X in performance, that will be the perfect 1080p 60Hz card until 1060/Ti shows up.

What a great post. Just a shame that after a weekend of great times hanging out with a bunch of cool people I kind of forgot the toxic air here. I come to get the wrap on the latest rumors for the past two days about a sweet upcoming product and all I encounter are a bunch of noxious, negative posts. Who is arguing about what? 480 must be presenting some very solid value to have the nVidia viral marketing team out in such full force. They've been caught with their pants down with nothing at all to show for under $450.

A kickass, extremely cheap card is about to be released and its now even showing some great overclocking ability and great reference designs, yet there are several people in this thread with the sole mission to rain on everyone's parade.

 

[happy medium]

If I bought a Evga gtx980 classified for 280$ shipped , would that be a good value.?
Overclocking brings the gtx980 to 92% of the performance of a gtx980ti.

How would that gtx980 stack up to say a 250$ 480 @ 390 performance?
Just want to get your input.

or I could also grab a Zotac extreme gtx980ti for $360, should I wait for the $250 480? Whats the best value do you think?
I don't play ashes or Hitman, just so you know.

we don't know that yet,
regardless one particular scenario doesn't matter for all and everyone.

We don't know what yet?

ANd this is for me personally, with my mouse on the trigger.

 

[happy medium]

Do you play Total War : Warhammer ??? Do you play Quantum Brake ???

No and most likely not.

Will you try DOOM

Yes but I think most any higher end gpu can easily play this game @ 1080p.

Will you play Deus Ex : Mankind divided ??

No, I highly doubt it.

How about BF1 and Watch Dog 2 ??

Yes , I guess but I have no idea if this game is even good yet.....Watch dogs 2? Never played part 1 yet.

Halo 5 ,I might give a try.

I'll play Forza, project Cars, GTA V, recent Tomb Raider , Black ops type games, Mostly action adventure, shooters and racing games.

edit: I love the Wolfenstein series, Need for speed ,Grid series, Dirt Rally ,Far cry series.

Edit 2:
Fallout series, Bioshock series.

SO should I just wait for the 480? or buy now.

 

[kraatus77]

i bolded the part about we don't have solid info yet.

and yes, for you even a 500$ 980 is better value than 200$ 2 times faster Navi 10.

because you play gimpworks games and nvidia is better for those games.

tldr, nvidia is always better value for you .


Infraction issued for insulting another member.

-Rvenger

 

[happy medium]

i bolded the part about we don't have solid info yet.

and yes, for you even a 500$ 980 is better value than 200$ 2 times faster Navi 10.

because you play gimpworks games and nvidia is better for those games.

tldr, nvidia is always better value for you .

WOw thanks for the insults and the help...I guess. :'(

 

[Bacon1]

There is just 1 problem.
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/R9_270X/24.html

Oh you want to talk about power usage vs TDP, great.

TDP of 270x is... 180W - http://www.anandtech.com/show/7503/the-amd-radeon-r9-270x-270-review-feat-asus-his

Actual power usage is avg of 111W during gaming, peak was 122W.

So what you are trying to say is that the 150W TDP of 480 should actually result in much lower power usage in games? Great!

 

[kraatus77]

ok , when someone describes my thinking it's normal, but when i do it's an insult or personal attack ? i didn't even said a single bad word there lol.

 

[happy medium]

ok , when someone describes my thinking it's normal, but when i do it's an insult or personal attack ? i didn't even said a single bad word there lol.

Actually I asked Russian and quoted Russian and AtenRa, I wasn't even talking to you.
You just jumped in...............
You have the wrong guy.

 

[DisarmedDespot]

SO should I just wait for the 480? or buy now.

Is it new or used? TBQH unless you desperately need it, why wouldn't you wait less than two weeks for the RX 480 to launch? Even if the 480 ends up not being for you, it'll prolly drive the prices of 980s/390Xs down farther.

 

[Ma_Deuce]

How would that gtx980 stack up to say a 250$ 480 @ 390 performance?
Just want to get your input.

What model of 480 costs $250 and only has 390 performance?

 

[iiiankiii]

If I bought a Evga gtx980 classified for 280$ shipped , would that be a good value.?
Overclocking brings the gtx980 to 92% of the performance of a gtx980ti.

How would that gtx980 stack up to say a 250$ 480 @ 390 performance?
Just want to get your input.

or I could also grab a Zotac extreme gtx980ti for $360, should I wait for the $250 480? Whats the best value do you think?
I don't play ashes or Hitman, just so you know.

Hell no. I wouldn't pay $280 for a GTX980. That's not a smart buy at all. You literally have less than 2 weeks before you find out the RX480 true performance. The chances of the RX480 being faster than an GTX980 is very high. Plus, you have better TDP. Newer features. Feature sets used on consoles.

If you're in to VR, PS4K games will be ported to the PC. Guess what? The PS4K uses POLARIS 10. Everything is stacked against the gTX980. The RX480 will continue to gain performance through its lifetime because of the console effect. The console effect is real.

I wouldn't even consider a GTX980 unless it's priced @ $175. That's because I know there are people like you that are even considering paying $280 for it. I would just buy it to flip it and grab an RX480 instead. That's howI feel about the GTX980 against the RX480.

 

[misuspita]

Isn't it eye opening that NV is charging $100 for a GPU cooler but AMD is releasing an entire videocard for $199, and with a superior PCB/Power phase design.

.

Nice post RS, but this one is a gem (in quote)

So nVidia bullsh*ts everyone into thinking a mediocre blower is worth 100$ whilst AMD SELLS A COMPLETE VIDEOCARD at double that. And we are still arguing about the value proposition of Polaris lineup?

 

[happy medium]

[/quote]

Even if the 480 ends up not being for you, it'll prolly drive the prices of 980s/390Xs down farther

That's a good point and smart thinking . thanks,

I also saw a brand new 390x for 250$....New gtx 970 for 205$
When you see that type of performance, 90% of a gtx980ti for 280$ or a $360 Zotac Amp extreme for 360$, your mind plays tricks on you. .

I just dont want the 480 to be mediocre and the prices to rebound..

For me all this hype is great, the faster everyone thinks the 480 will be the better prices I'll get on a higher end gpu.

So who thinks the 480 will beat a gtx980ti? everyone right?! yay! me too!
for 180$? right? yay me too!.:thumbsup:

480 Overclocks to the moon, yay!

Truth is we don't know crap, Boo!

 

[therealnickdanger]

I'm glad I only paid $120 each for my 970s, cuz that's all they'll be worth in a few weeks. LOL