[Rumor, Tweaktown] AMD to launch next-gen Navi graphics cards at E3

[Stuka87]

* 7 Hours

Yeah, I thought the PC Gaming show was at 10am PST, but its at 1pm PST. So 5 hours.

 

[Karnak]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1138091993459056640

 

[maddie]

So you are saying it has to be $30 cheaper than a what will most likely end up being a slower card? If AMD didn't think they could come close to 2070, they would not have used that as their benchmark publicly. The wattage will most likely be close. The price may even be close, but the performance should be better than a 2060.

We find out in 2 hours.

7 hours actually.

 

[Glo.]

Yeah, I thought the PC Gaming show was at 10am PST, but its at 1pm PST. So 5 hours.

it appears that you are typing from 2 hours in the future.

 

[Stuka87]

it appears that you are typing from 2 hours in the future.

Well, it is currently 08:17 PST here in California. The PC Gaming show is at 13:00 PST. 13 minus 8 equals 5? Unless they aren't unveiling at the PC Gaming show that they are sponsoring?

 

[Glo.]

Well, it is currently 08:17 PST here in California. The PC Gaming show is at 13:00 PST. 13 minus 8 equals 5? Unless they aren't unveiling at the PC Gaming show that they are sponsoring?

https://videocardz.com/

Check the clock

 

[Stuka87]

https://videocardz.com/

Check the clock

Ahh, then yes. They are not unveiling at the PC Gaming show. But instead right after it.

 

[Glo.]

 

[maddie]

it appears that you are typing from 2 hours in the future.

It's good, we'll get all the news before they happen.

 

[tviceman]

So you are saying it has to be $30 cheaper than a what will most likely end up being a slower card? If AMD didn't think they could come close to 2070, they would not have used that as their benchmark publicly. The wattage will most likely be close. The price may even be close, but the performance should be better than a 2060.

We find out in 2 hours 5 hours.

I'm saying I think it will have Vega64/gtx 1080 performance, which is within 2-3% of the rtx 2060. So yes, it needs to be cheaper than existing, similarly performing products that have been on the market for 6+ months and have more features.

I think AMD used older Nvidia drivers in their strange brigade comparison, otherwise why not use more than one comparisons and with way, way, way more popular games to demonstrate their superiority? The answer is obvious there.

But regardless, unless AMD makes mulitple direct comparisons to their own existing products, we won't "have the answers" until independent reviews.

 

[Head1985]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1138091993459056640

I fear it will be overpriced just like RTX2070 which is already worst x70 ever made to this point.the card is clearly polaris replacement from die size to cheap blower style fan.RX480 8Gb launched at 240usd...And was also little faster than GTX970 BTW....

 

[DrMrLordX]

why not use more than one comparisons and with way, way, way more popular games to demonstrate their superiority?

That slide posted by @Karnak has some percentile comparisons in 1440p.

I fear it will be overpriced just like RTX2070 which is already worst x70 ever made to this point.the card is clearly polaris replacement from die size to cheap blower style fan.RX480 8Gb launched at 240usd...And was also little faster than GTX970 BTW....

Got to keep pushing up those ASPs. It is a bit strange that they attacked the 2070, instead of going straight after the 2060 and 1660Ti.

 

[Glo.]

Everybody think that AMD will be the cheap brand, when they have competitive products with Intel and Nvidia.

Funny that.

Well, you will still have the rumored 100$ price cuts on RTX GPUs.

P.S.

https://videocardz.com/80993/amd-radeon-rx-5700-xt-official-gaming-benchmarks-leaked

 

[tviceman]

That slide posted by @Karnak has some percentile comparisons in 1440p.



Got to keep pushing up those ASPs. It is a bit strange that they attacked the 2070, instead of going straight after the 2060 and 1660Ti.

It does. If legit, awesome!

 

[exquisitechar]

2x8pin power connectors, oh boy.

Perf/mm^2 will be excellent, perf/w not so much...

 

[Krteq]

nvm

 

[Head1985]

Everybody think that AMD will be the cheap brand, when they have competitive products with Intel and Nvidia.

Funny that.

Well, you will still have the rumored 100$ price cuts on RTX GPUs.

P.S.

https://videocardz.com/80993/amd-radeon-rx-5700-xt-official-gaming-benchmarks-leaked

Yeah because RTX2070 is overpriced garbage at first place.If RTX2070 was 330usd like GTX970 i will be ok with that if amd price it same.If they price it like current 2070 we pretty much getting same garbage card 1year later and without RTX/DLSS.

 

[Glo.]

Yeah because RTX2070 is overpriced garbage at first place.If RTX2070 was 330usd like GTX970 i will be ok with that if amd price it same.If they price it like current 2070 we pretty much getting same garbage card 1year later and without RTX/DLSS.

RTX/DLSS is Nvidia's attempt at Ray Tracing. What makes you believe AMD even needs that?

 

[Bouowmx]

2x8-pin to equal GeForce RTX 2070 gg

(not discounting that some RTX 2070 models have 2x8-pin)

 

[Glo.]

2x8-pin to equal GeForce RTX 2070 gg

The same way as GTX 1660, 120W GPU needs 225W power delivery?

 

[DrMrLordX]

Everybody think that AMD will be the cheap brand, when they have competitive products with Intel and Nvidia.

AMD can't beat the 2080Ti, so what else can they do? We have already talked this to death anyway.

 

[crisium]

They could easily be talking FP16 - considering that unlike PS4 Pro, the XBX chip could not do double rate FP16, so the PS4 pro chip has 8.4 TFLOPS FP16, whereas XBX has just 6 TFLOPS FP16, same as its FP32 compute.
It wouldn't surprise me if Microsoft meant it has 24 TFLOPS FP16, 4x XBX FP16 - which makes far more sense economically for MS.
They wouldn't be the first console maker to get people assuming an upcoming console was better than it was due to ambiguous statements - anyone remember Nintendo implying that the Wii U CPU was POWER7 by saying it used the WATSON architecture?

Yeah, there's no way the FP32 TFLOPs is 4x. Xbox 1 X is 2560 shaders at 1172mhz for 6 TFLOPs. No way to get 24 TFLOPs in a console on 7nm. It could be FP16, or just their performance benchmarks taking the rest of the system into account. Can't understimate how much faster Zen 2 will be over Jaguar.

 

[soresu]

Yeah, there's no way the FP32 TFLOPs is 4x. Xbox 1 X is 2560 shaders at 1172mhz for 6 TFLOPs. No way to get 24 TFLOPs in a console on 7nm. It could be FP16, or just their performance benchmarks taking the rest of the system into account. Can't understimate how much faster Zen 2 will be over Jaguar.

The benefits of Zen 2 will mostly be in areas that typically require CPU - ie NPC/enemy AI and such. Even then, AI may be handled by a ML accelerator core or something, as they are in just about every smartphone SoC made now.

I don't think that the PC typical problems with CPU effecting FPS are as much a problem on console platforms, due to the capability to heavily optimise for a singular hardware platform target rather than dozens.

 

[ElFenix]

Well, it is currently 08:17 PST here in California. The PC Gaming show is at 13:00 PST. 13 minus 8 equals 5? Unless they aren't unveiling at the PC Gaming show that they are sponsoring?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daylight_saving_time

 

[soresu]

The AMD site lists 3PM PDT specifically, straight from the horses mouth - Google can then translate that to whatever time zone you are in.