Rumour: Bulldozer 50% Faster than Core i7 and Phenom II.

[jimbo75]

Those pics tell us nothing new as it's still a B0 stepping sample.

 

[jimbo75]

Has anyone even been talking about Llano on the desktop? Does anyone care?

Not sure what you mean?

The 1100T is 3.3ghz at least, that Llano A8 chip will probably be between 1.8ghz and 2.4ghz. That might explain why it's 30% lower on score than the 1100T.

 

[dma0991]

A 6 core BD at 3Ghz. Following from the ES chart that was leaked earlier it should be the 3020 with 3.0 Ghz base frequency and 3.9/4.0 Ghz turbo frequency. Looks very promising. :sneaky:

 

[HW2050Plus]

Even if they are/were 100% legit results, the chances of them being reflective of retail/shipping motherboard BIOSes and CPU steppings (including requisite microcode) rapidly approaches zero with every day that stands between the date of the bench leak and the date of retail availability of the CPU/platform on Newegg.

Leaked benchmarks, being the static snapshots they are of a very dynamic iterative optimization cycle that transpires right before a product launch, are worse than worthless IMO as they are virtually assured of being irrelevant to the performance of the product we ultimately have the opportunity to purchase whenever it is finally released.

(this is even more apropos when GPU elements are involved, performance is moving target based on monthly driver releases even after the hardware goes retail)

From my experience with recent CPU releases and benchmark results which leaked before I can tell that in all cases the final retail performance matched the performance of the pre-release/engineering samples. What might not match is the clock frequency but everything else is okay. Yes there might be some bugs which have to be fixed but these bugs are seldomly related to performance. In fact I know only one time when there was a mismatch and this mismatch was that the prerelease chip was faster than the final product and no single release where it was vice versa.

Therefore using this experience the benchmarks results are either fake or real. But they are not wrong.

And regarding the PCinlife leaked Cinebench (Cinebench R11.5 x64 ) results all at 3.0 GHz:
Zambezi 6 Core: Single Core = 0.87
Phenom II: Single Core = 1.00
Sandy Bridge: Single Core = 1.25

These results look quite well as BD will clock much higher.
@4.5 GHz this would be ~1.305
where
Phenom II @3.7 GHz would result in ~1.23

 

[formulav8]

Can you write all of the results from the graphs. I can't hardly read any of it. Even when zoomed...

 

[busydude]

Can you write all of the results from the graphs. I can't hardly read any of it. Even when zoomed...

Oops, forgot to provide the source. Click on the image to view at full size.

http://news.mydrivers.com/1/192/192916.htm

 

[hamunaptra]

Whats your guys take on this?
http://www.kitguru.net/components/cpu/carl/amd-bulldozer-details-leaked/

Looks like super pi is around 7.xxx secs for 1M and wprime is around 166secs for 1024M

 

[Lepton87]

Whats your guys take on this?
http://www.kitguru.net/components/cpu/carl/amd-bulldozer-details-leaked/

Looks like super pi is around 7.xxx secs for 1M and wprime is around 166secs for 1024M

What? 7 sec at what clocks? 2500K at stocks gets over 11 sec. Wprime results seem reasonable and are in-line with what I expected.

BD - 166
i7 980X - 160
2600K - 245
2500k - 352

So it almost matches i7 980X, given that this program seems to benefit a lot from Hyper-threaded cores, much more then most programs(just compare those two SB models) BD might beat Gulftown in the vast majority of multi-threaded benchmarks.

I don't know what's going on with that single-threaded super pi program, it's not exactly well-written and efficient in what it does. Performance in that program never had anything to do with real programs.

 

[purefun1965]

sorry guys i did not get back to you. I got busted and I almost lost my job.:'( I can no longer comment.

 

[drizek]

Not sure what you mean?

The 1100T is 3.3ghz at least, that Llano A8 chip will probably be between 1.8ghz and 2.4ghz. That might explain why it's 30% lower on score than the 1100T.

I was agreeing with you. I was just saying that I've never seen anyone at AMD or anywhere else talk up the desktop Llano chips, which makes it more likely that they are testing mobile chips rather than desktop ones.

 

[Terzo]

sorry guys i did not get back to you. I got busted and I almost lost my job.:'( I can no longer comment.

Even though I'd love to get a sneak preview of Bulldozer, it's not worth losing your job over; I'm glad you still have your job.

 

[busydude]

sorry guys i did not get back to you. I got busted and I almost lost my job. I can no longer comment.

Sorry to hear that man.. be careful. It is not worth the risk.. especially in this economy.

 

[RyanGreener]

sorry guys i did not get back to you. I got busted and I almost lost my job.:'( I can no longer comment.

Damn! That was a close one. Glad you didn't lose your job, but thanks for the sneak peak. It really sparked my interest in building a desktop again.

 

[dma0991]

sorry guys i did not get back to you. I got busted and I almost lost my job.:'( I can no longer comment.

Your job is more important than some data that can be obtained in a months time. Luckily you still have your job.

 

[RobertPters77]

sorry guys i did not get back to you. I got busted and I almost lost my job.:'( I can no longer comment.

Do it! Tell us everything about the 'Bulldozer.' Do not worry about your employer, there will be other places and other tasks for you to do.

Break the 'N.D.A.' Break it! Do not let it constrain you! Do not let it limit you! It's only words, they can not harm you. Give the internet what it wants! Give it Bulldozer!

 

[purefun1965]

the new chips we received:thumbsup: I looked at the leaked benches. they were similar to the first chips we tested. amd is back. for the life of me amd should release information. They can sell these like hotcakes.

 

[videoclone]

Here's hoping your right, If so, My i7 2600 will be replaced as fast as you can say intel is not a nice company.
Go the green and red team! Bulldozer needs to be good cause its got some nasty fast 22nm tech coming next year to give it a smackdown.

 

[purefun1965]

I am buying one to replace my i7 920 now that the new 9series chipset will support sli. Ivybridge on 22nm will be a problem for amd.

 

[videoclone]

Anyone know when the 9 series AMD chipset comes out? Will it be at the same time the cpu does on the 7th next month?

 

[dma0991]

Anyone know when the 9 series AMD chipset comes out? Will it be at the same time the cpu does on the 7th next month?

The 9 series chipset will be out on June 1st together with Llano announcement. FX branding and AM3+ boards will be on the 7th.

 

[bstaley]

Just found this leaked benchmark:
http://wccftech.com/2011/05/10/gigabyte-leaks-amd-bulldozer-details/

The CPU “AMD FX 8110″ has a core clock of 2.8Ghz as seen from the windows experience index however CPU-z shows its running at 3.8Ghz which is because of the AMD’s Turbo boost technology, The socket supported by the chip is Socket AMD3b 942 and has a maximum TDP of 95W. The CPU consists of 8 cores and 8 threads, 8MB of L3 Cache and an Unlocked Core. Instructions supported are seen in the CPU-z tab.
The two benchmarks running in the background are Wprime v2.04 which records a score of 5.516 sec (32M) 166.895 sec (1024M) and Super PI score of 7.8 sec (1M calculations) 7 min 22 sec (32M calculations). The motherboard being used is from Gigabyte with model name GA-990FX-UD5.

 

[formulav8]

I just ran a PhII 740 TripleCore 3ghz - computer I have laying around on the Cinebench r11.5 bench in the busydude link above and came up with a single core score of: .91

The leaked bench for BD Single core run was .87

So take the info for what its worth, if anything....

The board only has a 1ghz HTT link as well.

 

[996GT2]

Just found this leaked benchmark:
http://wccftech.com/2011/05/10/gigabyte-leaks-amd-bulldozer-details/

The CPU “AMD FX 8110″ has a core clock of 2.8Ghz as seen from the windows experience index however CPU-z shows its running at 3.8Ghz which is because of the AMD’s Turbo boost technology, The socket supported by the chip is Socket AMD3b 942 and has a maximum TDP of 95W. The CPU consists of 8 cores and 8 threads, 8MB of L3 Cache and an Unlocked Core. Instructions supported are seen in the CPU-z tab.
The two benchmarks running in the background are Wprime v2.04 which records a score of 5.516 sec (32M) 166.895 sec (1024M) and Super PI score of 7.8 sec (1M calculations) 7 min 22 sec (32M calculations). The motherboard being used is from Gigabyte with model name GA-990FX-UD5.

Very, very fake.

 

[OCGuy]

the new chips we received:thumbsup: I looked at the leaked benches. they were similar to the first chips we tested. amd is back. for the life of me amd should release information. They can sell these like hotcakes.

Shens

I probably haven't seen this much fake info before a tech launch since the AMD 5XXX GPU series and the nV GTX4XX series.

 

[busydude]

I probably haven't seen this much fake info before a tech launch since the AMD 5XXX GPU series and the nV GTX4XX series.

What fake info?