Running Everyday?

[Gamingphreek]

Originally posted by: sash1

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek

I'm from Virginia. As for 930 for qualifying times...are you sure about that. Do you have a link, that is ~4:45 a mile, which is pretty fast for high school.

-Kevin

Dude, you go to VTech. There is no way you are making the team. You're Div I! I couldn't even make the team at Wake Forest and I was one of the fastest runners in my state! Even in my best two events I couldn't even compete (800m and 5k).

800m - 2:02
5k - 15:58

In high school I dominated. Div I at Wake Forest? yeah right, I had no chance. If you're not running 9:45 or below, don't even bother and go straight to club/intramural sports. The only D-I school that offered me a full scholarship was UMO (UMaine - Orono), but I would have had to train a lot harder to try and get my times down. You need to be an elite runner to make it in Div I.

Yeah, I never thought of Tech as a good running school, but you are right. They are still D-I.

Ok well what is the longest event offered in College. Do they have incredibly long Cross Country runs that are in excess of like 5 miles. Because personally, the longer the better. Hence the reason I just want to try that trail that leads into Christiansburg.

Python thanks so much. So you think I should eat more and run a lot and lift a lot through November (per se) and then switch to a losing any fat that I have? That certainly would be easier, because all this working out makes me so hungry lol.

-Kevin

 

[sash1]

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
Yeah, I never thought of Tech as a good running school, but you are right. They are still D-I.

Ok well what is the longest event offered in College. Do they have incredibly long Cross Country runs that are in excess of like 5 miles. Because personally, the longer the better. Hence the reason I just want to try that trail that leads into Christiansburg.

Python thanks so much. So you think I should eat more and run a lot and lift a lot through November (per se) and then switch to a losing any fat that I have? That certainly would be easier, because all this working out makes me so hungry lol.

-Kevin

Cross-Country in college is 10k, so 6.2 miles. Now it's really up to you which is more important, lifting weights or running in college. Becuase trust me, if you want to compete in D-I long distance, then forget about lifting weights and getting a toned upper body. Unnecessary fat and weight will just slow you down. The reason I was able to break a 16min 5k in HS is because I realized this. In my senior year I was 110lbs and 4.3% body fat. Besides abs, I had no upper body strength whatsoever. I was in no better shape than I was a year before when I was running 17min, but I was skinnier so it made the run a lot easier.

 

[python023]

To put on muscle mass, you must take in excess calories. Taking in calories will naturally increase your fat. However, there is no need to go crazy and eat as much as you can every moment. You simply need an excess of 250-500 calories over maintenance. This will keep fat gain to a minimum. However, if you are looking to be a long distance runner, I don't think muscle mass is the way to go, as mentioned in the above post. When you cut, again, you dont need to go overboard. Just 500 calories or so below maintenance, and continue to lift, but perhaps slightly decrease the total number of sets. Make sure you take in enough protein, etc. Stick to compound lifts, stay away from machines. There are plenty of websites out there with tons more information than can be squeezed into a post, however, here you should have the basics.

 

[Gamingphreek]

No you dont gain fat when you are trying to build muscle.

The idea behind eating more is that excess in Calories will be converted into the muscle as you exercise. How would you build muscle mass if you kept gaining fat at the same time??

-Kevin

 

[python023]

Do you know what you are talking about, kevin?
You WILL gain fat when you try to increase muscle mass. Simple as that.

 

[Gamingphreek]

Originally posted by: python023
Do you know what you are talking about, kevin?
You WILL gain fat when you try to increase muscle mass. Simple as that.

You will not gain fat when you lift. You will gain weight but, if you are executing a good workout plan, it should be muscle that is increasing.

TO suggest that you gain fat is ludicrous. If you are telling me that, then those body builders (Ah-nuld) for instance...you are telling me he was fat while he was building all that muscle?? Sorry no.

It is extremely tough to lose fat and gain muscle because you still need an excess of calories/protein, however if you are lifting/exercising that excess calories/protein will be used to build muscle not fat.

-Kevin

 

[SWScorch]

I didn't bother to read the whole thread since I have to go to work soon, so I'll read it there, but I'll just add my two cents. Unless you are seriously training, 5 days a week is probably optimal. Training every day will make you much fitter, but at the expense of your immune system and being more likely to get injured. If you just want to get in shape, 4-5 days of running supplemented with some cross training is probably best. It's enough that you'll be in really good shape without overtaxing your body.

 

[Gamingphreek]

I've been doing 6 days without any ill effects. I actually missed my run yesterday. Today though, I accidently missed my turn and kept running. I ended up down by the Tech Airstrip. I started getting slightly worried when i started passing more cows than cars. I used the GMAPS thing linked above and it turns out that I ended up running 5.3 miles.

I found that people off campus lack all courtesy. I kept having to stop for a minute at a time at crosswalks to roads off the main road. Then when I did run people cut me off in cars (Drive on the other side of the road) and then one guy, after motioning me to go across, started going and I almost slipped i stopped so fast. All in all technically it was a piss poor 11 minutes per mile, but taking out the multiple times I had to stop I think I probably managed about 8-9 minutes per mile. Still not too good, but considering I was lost, I had to pace myself (5.3 miles), and I'm just off crutches. I suppose if I were being timed on a track or something, I could easily bring it down to about 6-7 minutes per mile for a 5 mile run (Obvious if it were only a mile I would be going much much faster than 6-7 minutes)

-Kevin

 

[HannibalX]

Once apon a time I ran every day and was in great shape. Oh how things change though.

I am about 255 lbs at the moment. I haven't ran anywhere it a little while.

 

[SWScorch]

Okay, I just read the whole thread. You have some very good advice here. No offense, and I don't want to seem like a jerk, but there is no way you're gonna make the team. I barely made my college team, for a small D3 school, and I run 50-70 miles per week, with a sub-17 5K and a 10:30 2-mile. D1 is much much more competetive. I doubt anyone on the team runs over 10 minutes for the 2-mile. Most college runners run 70-100 miles per week around 7 minutes per mile or faster.

But, if you are determined, don't lift weights. The extra muscle mass will slow you down. However, do continue to keep doing core/ab exercises. A strong core is critical in running. You want to run as much as physically possible, get as skinny as possible, and do some workouts. Get your weekly mileage up to at least 50 miles a week, and then start doing some tempo runs, fartleks, and track workouts. Only then will you start to see the improvement necessary to even try out for the team. I would also suggest running at the very least 6 times a week.

 

[Gamingphreek]

Originally posted by: SWScorch
Okay, I just read the whole thread. You have some very good advice here. No offense, and I don't want to seem like a jerk, but there is no way you're gonna make the team. I barely made my college team, for a small D3 school, and I run 50-70 miles per week, with a sub-17 5K and a 10:30 2-mile. D1 is much much more competetive. I doubt anyone on the team runs over 10 minutes for the 2-mile. Most college runners run 70-100 miles per week around 7 minutes per mile or faster.

But, if you are determined, don't lift weights. The extra muscle mass will slow you down. However, do continue to keep doing core/ab exercises. A strong core is critical in running. You want to run as much as physically possible, get as skinny as possible, and do some workouts. Get your weekly mileage up to at least 50 miles a week, and then start doing some tempo runs, fartleks, and track workouts. Only then will you start to see the improvement necessary to even try out for the team. I would also suggest running at the very least 6 times a week.

Yeah I forgot that even though Tech isn't known for track they are still a D-I school. I wont make it this year, probably not next year but it is something to strive for.

I am running 6 days a week. I'm thinking I might up the mileage to 5 miles a day for regular, and then like 6 or7 for a long day. Today I ran 5.32 miles (GMAPS ) and although my calves burn, and I was pretty cold, I got back and felt I could have kept going.

I honestly don't know what to do. Given a minute or even less to stop and stand there I feel completely rejuvinated and able to go. Even if I can't do that I can still run forever. Certainly my heart-rate was up and I was breathing hard...I was certainly running hard for training, but I just dont feel like I am pushing myself. We have a trail (Huckleberry Trail) that runs 6.2 miles one way into Christiansburg and then 6.2 miles back. Should I start running on that?? I want to push myself and I just cant seem to exhaust myself.

-Kevin

 

[SWScorch]

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
Yeah I forgot that even though Tech isn't known for track they are still a D-I school. I wont make it this year, probably not next year but it is something to strive for.

I am running 6 days a week. I'm thinking I might up the mileage to 5 miles a day for regular, and then like 6 or7 for a long day. Today I ran 5.32 miles (GMAPS ) and although my calves burn, and I was pretty cold, I got back and felt I could have kept going.

I honestly don't know what to do. Given a minute or even less to stop and stand there I feel completely rejuvinated and able to go. Even if I can't do that I can still run forever. Certainly my heart-rate was up and I was breathing hard...I was certainly running hard for training, but I just dont feel like I am pushing myself. We have a trail (Huckleberry Trail) that runs 6.2 miles one way into Christiansburg and then 6.2 miles back. Should I start running on that?? I want to push myself and I just cant seem to exhaust myself.

-Kevin

If you feel like you can keep going, then by all means do so. Definitely run on the trails if you can; they are much better for your legs and build stabilizing muscles too because they are uneven. Don't increase your mileage too much suddenly though, maybe add a mile onto 3 or 4 of your runs every week, and try to keep increasing your long run. Once you reach the point where a 10-mile run is just another day, then you're ready to try out for the team. But whatever you do, don't start running 12 miles when your previous long run was 6, you have the gradually build up to it, or else your body will hate you.

Also, once you've been going for a while and feel like you're starting to get in pretty decent shape, I'd suggest running one of your runs as a tempo run every week. In case you don't know what that is, tempos are "comfortably hard." You should be straining but able to keep the pace for a bit longer than you run. If you're doing 8-9 minute miles now I'd say 7:00 or so would probably be tempo pace for you. Start off doing 2 or 3 miles at that pace after a few miles to warmup. That will improve your lactate threshold and allow you to run faster farther.

 

[YoungGun21]

I could give you a 10pages full of advice on this but I'm just going to tell you what I do for my workout routine.

Weekdays I wake up and run 2 miles at around 6AM. Then I go to school. Later in the evenings I do lots of indoor exercises like air sits, squat jumps, things that work out your legs. I also add in multiple kinds of push-ups and various kinds of crunches. (Keep in mind that at school I'm in athletic PE so we workout with weights and stuff so I also suggest going to the gym or atleast finding a bench you can use. You can do alot of different workouts with just a bench.)

Weekends are all about speed/reflex training for me. Run sprints, suicidies, down & backs. Work on "exploding" (you should know what I mean if you used to run track). Work on my fast twitch muscle fibers. I run the 400m dash and at the Jr. High level getting a nice start wasn't really important. Now in Highschool getting out of the blocks and getting a nice start can sometimes be the deciding factor in the race.

 

[Gamingphreek]

Originally posted by: SWScorch

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
Yeah I forgot that even though Tech isn't known for track they are still a D-I school. I wont make it this year, probably not next year but it is something to strive for.

I am running 6 days a week. I'm thinking I might up the mileage to 5 miles a day for regular, and then like 6 or7 for a long day. Today I ran 5.32 miles (GMAPS ) and although my calves burn, and I was pretty cold, I got back and felt I could have kept going.

I honestly don't know what to do. Given a minute or even less to stop and stand there I feel completely rejuvinated and able to go. Even if I can't do that I can still run forever. Certainly my heart-rate was up and I was breathing hard...I was certainly running hard for training, but I just dont feel like I am pushing myself. We have a trail (Huckleberry Trail) that runs 6.2 miles one way into Christiansburg and then 6.2 miles back. Should I start running on that?? I want to push myself and I just cant seem to exhaust myself.

-Kevin

If you feel like you can keep going, then by all means do so. Definitely run on the trails if you can; they are much better for your legs and build stabilizing muscles too because they are uneven. Don't increase your mileage too much suddenly though, maybe add a mile onto 3 or 4 of your runs every week, and try to keep increasing your long run. Once you reach the point where a 10-mile run is just another day, then you're ready to try out for the team. But whatever you do, don't start running 12 miles when your previous long run was 6, you have the gradually build up to it, or else your body will hate you.

Also, once you've been going for a while and feel like you're starting to get in pretty decent shape, I'd suggest running one of your runs as a tempo run every week. In case you don't know what that is, tempos are "comfortably hard." You should be straining but able to keep the pace for a bit longer than you run. If you're doing 8-9 minute miles now I'd say 7:00 or so would probably be tempo pace for you. Start off doing 2 or 3 miles at that pace after a few miles to warmup. That will improve your lactate threshold and allow you to run faster farther.

Wow I cant thank you enough for the information.

So I definitely shouldn't run the trail to Christiansburg and then run all the way back? That would be 12 miles, but running 1 direction seems kind of pointless lol. Ill try to make this 5.3 mile run my normal run and then extend it another mile for my long run. Once I'm comfortable with that I can start a tempo pace on those runs. That way I don't up the mileage to exorbitant amounts.

Seeing as you must run a lot I hope I can ask some advice.

Right now it is only fall and often it drops into the low 40's not counting the very high winds. I am running in Underarmour and shorts. This weekend Ill try to get some gloves but can you recommend any other way for me to keep warm. I dont like running with sweatshirt or anything because I hate the feeling that the heat is building up inside of it and what not. Would it be advisable (For winter especially) for me to buy some of the underarmour pants to wear under the shorts? (I'm in the Blueridge Mountains at Virginia Tech so it gets very very cold come Winter)

Also, you said to cut out the weight workouts almost completely. Obviously I will still do abs but you are saying I should cut out, push-ups, curls, and all that? I understand that less muscle mass will make me faster but I don't want to extremely slim and barely able to lift things? Is there anyway I can overcome the added muscle mass I would be gaining? I dont want to be anything even remotely close to those body builders. You know the area I'm aiming for (I think)...

-Kevin

 

[python023]

Perhaps you are not familiar with the bodybuilding scene, however, during the "off-season" bodybuilders go on a muscle-building diet. Even though they do this as a living, they have the kcals down to the decimal, they still gain fat during the bulking stage. They then proceed to "cut" the fat that they have gained over the bulking season to get in podium mode for their shows. They do not bulk year round bc there fat percentage would be too high to compete. You on the other hand, who admitted to only knowing enough to "get by," are trying to tell me that this is wrong? Please do your research before you try to educate me on weight lifting. Thank you.

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek

Originally posted by: python023
Do you know what you are talking about, kevin?
You WILL gain fat when you try to increase muscle mass. Simple as that.

You will not gain fat when you lift. You will gain weight but, if you are executing a good workout plan, it should be muscle that is increasing.

TO suggest that you gain fat is ludicrous. If you are telling me that, then those body builders (Ah-nuld) for instance...you are telling me he was fat while he was building all that muscle?? Sorry no.

It is extremely tough to lose fat and gain muscle because you still need an excess of calories/protein, however if you are lifting/exercising that excess calories/protein will be used to build muscle not fat.

-Kevin

 

[sash1]

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek

Also, you said to cut out the weight workouts almost completely. Obviously I will still do abs but you are saying I should cut out, push-ups, curls, and all that? I understand that less muscle mass will make me faster but I don't want to extremely slim and barely able to lift things? Is there anyway I can overcome the added muscle mass I would be gaining? I dont want to be anything even remotely close to those body builders. You know the area I'm aiming for (I think)...

-Kevin

As I said before, if you are serious about making the team, you have a lot of work to do. And part of that is knowing that the less weight you have to carry, the easier it will be to run. As I stated earlier, I cut a minute off my time simply by dropping upper body strength and fat and thus became one of the best runners in Maine.

 

[SociallyChallenged]

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek

Originally posted by: SWScorch

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
Yeah I forgot that even though Tech isn't known for track they are still a D-I school. I wont make it this year, probably not next year but it is something to strive for.

I am running 6 days a week. I'm thinking I might up the mileage to 5 miles a day for regular, and then like 6 or7 for a long day. Today I ran 5.32 miles (GMAPS ) and although my calves burn, and I was pretty cold, I got back and felt I could have kept going.

I honestly don't know what to do. Given a minute or even less to stop and stand there I feel completely rejuvinated and able to go. Even if I can't do that I can still run forever. Certainly my heart-rate was up and I was breathing hard...I was certainly running hard for training, but I just dont feel like I am pushing myself. We have a trail (Huckleberry Trail) that runs 6.2 miles one way into Christiansburg and then 6.2 miles back. Should I start running on that?? I want to push myself and I just cant seem to exhaust myself.

-Kevin

If you feel like you can keep going, then by all means do so. Definitely run on the trails if you can; they are much better for your legs and build stabilizing muscles too because they are uneven. Don't increase your mileage too much suddenly though, maybe add a mile onto 3 or 4 of your runs every week, and try to keep increasing your long run. Once you reach the point where a 10-mile run is just another day, then you're ready to try out for the team. But whatever you do, don't start running 12 miles when your previous long run was 6, you have the gradually build up to it, or else your body will hate you.

Also, once you've been going for a while and feel like you're starting to get in pretty decent shape, I'd suggest running one of your runs as a tempo run every week. In case you don't know what that is, tempos are "comfortably hard." You should be straining but able to keep the pace for a bit longer than you run. If you're doing 8-9 minute miles now I'd say 7:00 or so would probably be tempo pace for you. Start off doing 2 or 3 miles at that pace after a few miles to warmup. That will improve your lactate threshold and allow you to run faster farther.

Wow I cant thank you enough for the information.

So I definitely shouldn't run the trail to Christiansburg and then run all the way back? That would be 12 miles, but running 1 direction seems kind of pointless lol. Ill try to make this 5.3 mile run my normal run and then extend it another mile for my long run. Once I'm comfortable with that I can start a tempo pace on those runs. That way I don't up the mileage to exorbitant amounts.

Seeing as you must run a lot I hope I can ask some advice.

Right now it is only fall and often it drops into the low 40's not counting the very high winds. I am running in Underarmour and shorts. This weekend Ill try to get some gloves but can you recommend any other way for me to keep warm. I dont like running with sweatshirt or anything because I hate the feeling that the heat is building up inside of it and what not. Would it be advisable (For winter especially) for me to buy some of the underarmour pants to wear under the shorts? (I'm in the Blueridge Mountains at Virginia Tech so it gets very very cold come Winter)

Also, you said to cut out the weight workouts almost completely. Obviously I will still do abs but you are saying I should cut out, push-ups, curls, and all that? I understand that less muscle mass will make me faster but I don't want to extremely slim and barely able to lift things? Is there anyway I can overcome the added muscle mass I would be gaining? I dont want to be anything even remotely close to those body builders. You know the area I'm aiming for (I think)...

-Kevin

Yeah, actually man, the long leg underarmor helps a lot for the cold. It regulates your heat, but keeps you fairly comfortable. I'd say it's worth the money. Also, weight workouts will not really be TOO beneficial to your running since it's distance, especially upper body. If you wanted to lift, I'd say do light weights with relatively high reps so you could work on your muscle endurance. That will also make you more cut in the long run, but it won't add too much mass. I'm actually a runner and I'm studying Exercise Bio, so I'd be willing to answer some of the questions you have. You can PM me.

 

[SWScorch]

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
Wow I cant thank you enough for the information.

So I definitely shouldn't run the trail to Christiansburg and then run all the way back? That would be 12 miles, but running 1 direction seems kind of pointless lol. Ill try to make this 5.3 mile run my normal run and then extend it another mile for my long run. Once I'm comfortable with that I can start a tempo pace on those runs. That way I don't up the mileage to exorbitant amounts.

Seeing as you must run a lot I hope I can ask some advice.

Right now it is only fall and often it drops into the low 40's not counting the very high winds. I am running in Underarmour and shorts. This weekend Ill try to get some gloves but can you recommend any other way for me to keep warm. I dont like running with sweatshirt or anything because I hate the feeling that the heat is building up inside of it and what not. Would it be advisable (For winter especially) for me to buy some of the underarmour pants to wear under the shorts? (I'm in the Blueridge Mountains at Virginia Tech so it gets very very cold come Winter)

Also, you said to cut out the weight workouts almost completely. Obviously I will still do abs but you are saying I should cut out, push-ups, curls, and all that? I understand that less muscle mass will make me faster but I don't want to extremely slim and barely able to lift things? Is there anyway I can overcome the added muscle mass I would be gaining? I dont want to be anything even remotely close to those body builders. You know the area I'm aiming for (I think)...

-Kevin

Anytime, bud.

Looking back, I take back what I said about cutting out weights all together. You don't want to be doing high-weight stuff, but low-weight, high-rep is okay. Pushups, pullups and stuff like that are okay as well. Actually, having a strong (endurace-wise) upper body does make you a better runner, but you want to be lean, not bulky. So, you want to weightlift in ways that will maximize muscle endurance, not raw power. I usually do 3x 50 pushups a few times a week before my abs, and some bicep curls with medium weights too. Lunges and squats are okay as well, as long as it's "easy" weight that you do for many reps.

It's really cold where I am right now (Upstate NY), and I cope by wearing underarmor, of course, and when it's really cold, switching to tights under my shorts. Spandex tights or compression shorts help a lot when it's nippy and windy and protect your junk from getting frostbitten (which sucks, believe me!). An earband works well for keeping your ears warm while still allowing heat to escape throgh your scalp so you don't get overheated and mittens work much much better than gloves. They also make pants just for running but they're pretty damn pricey so I've never tried them. I usually just wear shorts unless it's sub-zero.

The popular idea in regards to long runs is that your longest run of any week should be a quarter to a fifth of your total weekly mileage. So you shouldn't be running 12 miles until you're around 50-60 miles a week. Again, build up to it slowly. Until then, it probably wouldn't hurt to run at least partway out on the trails. I really can't extol the virtues of trails enough. All the elite runners do all their non-track running on trails. BTW, the link in my sig might have useful info, especially on page 2. Also, for a great forum on running, check out runango.com. I go by george there.

 

[Special K]

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
No you dont gain fat when you are trying to build muscle.

The idea behind eating more is that excess in Calories will be converted into the muscle as you exercise. How would you build muscle mass if you kept gaining fat at the same time??

-Kevin

This is ENTIRELY wrong. Tell me, what is your current height, weight, and bf? How much muscle have you added from your untrained state? Are you even familiar with the terms bulking and cutting?

You are right that the concept of eating calories above your maintenance is necessary for muscle growth. However, beyond a certain point, those extra calories cannot be used by your body to synthesize new muscle tissue. Other physiological factors become the rate limiting step, and all that extra food you are taking in WILL be stored as fat. You can minimize the damage by only eating slightly over your maintenance.

There is a concept called "nutrient partitioning" that most bodybuilders are familiar with - it refers to how the body uses the excess calories that are given to it. People with superior nutrient partitioning (read: pro bodybuilders like Arnold) will tend to use all extra calories to build new muscle. People with poor nutrient partitioning will tend to store calories as fat, regardless of how hard they train. Eating healthy helps, but you cannot improve your genetics.

While you may like to think that when eating excess calories, every excess calorie consumed will go towards building muscle (and not fat), and when eating in a deficit of calories, every calorie burned will come from fat (and not muscle), this is an ideal situation. Only someone with superior genetics and/or on drugs will see such amazing results. The vast majority of people will have to deal with the fact that with muscle gain comes (at least some) fat gain, and with fat loss comes (at least some) muscle loss. Face it - most people's bodies do not prefer to hang on to an excess of muscle with very low fat.

Another thing to keep in mind is that beginners can make progress much more rapidly than experienced lifters who have already added an appreciable amount of muscle mass. Someone who is overweight and who has never trained before can lose fat and build muscle at the same time - for awhile. Once you get to 200+ pounds of muscle at <12% bodyfat, suddenly doing both at the same time becomes much more difficult.

Oh, and in regards to your comment about Arnold - all of the pics you see of him as a bodybuilder were when he was in contest-ready shape. Pro bodybuilders often lose 30-40 pounds from off season to contest time. They don't look that shredded year round.

 

[Umberger]

lol, it's not even cold here yet. just you wait... in about a month, it'll be about 200 below with 4023498 mph winds.

 

[confused1234]

Originally posted by: Wapp
If you are running so much on a ****** sidewalk you are going to jack your legs up. Fine a nice clay or rubber track to run on if you are going to run everyday. Until then give your body a rest at least twice a week.

i run 10+ miles/6 days a week all on concrete asphault and my knees are fine. god i love being a teenager and having an unstopable body

 

[confused1234]

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek

Originally posted by: newmachineoverlord

Originally posted by: Wapp
If you are running so much on a ****** sidewalk you are going to jack your legs up. Fine a nice clay or rubber track to run on if you are going to run everyday. Until then give your body a rest at least twice a week.

^^^^
Also, it's important to eat protein and carbohydrates within thirty minutes of exercise, so bring a sandwich or whey protein with you to the track to eat afterwards. So far nothing has bested chocolate milk in peer reviewed experiments.

Distance is better for you than speed, but do mostly short runs with one long run per week. Increase the distance of the long run gradually, but keep the others under five miles.

Ok thank you guys so much!! As far as protein goes, would a peanut butter sandwhich be a bad idea (ie: Too many, Calories, or Total Fat)?

As far as the track goes, is a cross country trail good enough?

-Kevin

within 30 minutes of your workout you should drink(drinking is preffered but if you have to eat, then eat) something with a 4:1 carb to protein ratio. chocolate milk is like that, also yogurt is like that

 

[SWScorch]

Originally posted by: confused1234

Originally posted by: Wapp
If you are running so much on a ****** sidewalk you are going to jack your legs up. Fine a nice clay or rubber track to run on if you are going to run everyday. Until then give your body a rest at least twice a week.

i run 10+ miles/6 days a week all on concrete asphault and my knees are fine. god i love being a teenager and having an unstopable body

I thought I was unstoppable too... Then two years ago I got a stress fracture in my right leg from running on pavement too much. My shoes were also to blame; they had over 1000 miles on them. I had new ones, but they were back home and I was at college, and I thought I could last a month or so until I went back home again. Nope. I was out for 4 months.

 

[confused1234]

Originally posted by: SWScorch

Originally posted by: confused1234

Originally posted by: Wapp
If you are running so much on a ****** sidewalk you are going to jack your legs up. Fine a nice clay or rubber track to run on if you are going to run everyday. Until then give your body a rest at least twice a week.

i run 10+ miles/6 days a week all on concrete asphault and my knees are fine. god i love being a teenager and having an unstopable body

I thought I was unstoppable too... Then two years ago I got a stress fracture in my right leg from running on pavement too much. My shoes were also to blame; they had over 1000 miles on them. I had new ones, but they were back home and I was at college, and I thought I could last a month or so until I went back home again. Nope. I was out for 4 months.

hehe even if i did end up getting a stress fracture id work through it. mainly cuz i borke my neck my junior year and couldnt wrestle anymore or do any contact sports and this year(my senior year) i was SOOO close to making it to the state tournament for cross country. also my track team is going to be one of the best in state and depending on how fast i get our 4x800 will also be one of the best. also with only 1 month of very hard training i went from a 20:10 as my pr to a 17:04.

 

[Gamingphreek]

Special K, isn't that the idea of my running as well. Any excess calories would be burned as I am running. Also, I would assume that it is theoretically possible to eat the exact amount of calories needed to grow more muscle and nothing more (Obviously it is virtually impossible).

I have been keeping track of my mileage so far so I can't wait to see how many I rack up

-Kevin