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nick1985

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Originally posted by: Relentless
Originally posted by: LyricRequiem
Even if you only run moderate amounts per wk, you'll burn through a pair of running shoes about every 6 mos. Run more than that and 2/3 months will be the max for your shoes.. it Sux

I disagree wholeheartedly. My shoes lasted through 4 months of basic military qualification and three months after that are still great. Don't buy shitty shoes.


Because military basic training has you running 80-100 miles a week? :roll:
 
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Originally posted by: nick1985

Because military basic training has you running 80-100 miles a week? :roll:

Usually 40-50km a week, but I don't recall him saying how much was "moderate" or "more". I didn't think we were talking about running multiple marathons a week...
 

LyricRequiem

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Originally posted by: nick1985
Originally posted by: Relentless
Originally posted by: LyricRequiem
Even if you only run moderate amounts per wk, you'll burn through a pair of running shoes about every 6 mos. Run more than that and 2/3 months will be the max for your shoes.. it Sux

I disagree wholeheartedly. My shoes lasted through 4 months of basic military qualification and three months after that are still great. Don't buy shitty shoes.


Because military basic training has you running 80-100 miles a week? :roll:

EXACTLY what I was wondering Nick1985
 

JohnCU

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Originally posted by: nick1985
Originally posted by: Relentless
Originally posted by: LyricRequiem
Even if you only run moderate amounts per wk, you'll burn through a pair of running shoes about every 6 mos. Run more than that and 2/3 months will be the max for your shoes.. it Sux

I disagree wholeheartedly. My shoes lasted through 4 months of basic military qualification and three months after that are still great. Don't buy shitty shoes.


Because military basic training has you running 80-100 miles a week? :roll:

you run 80-100 miles a week?
 

LyricRequiem

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Originally posted by: Relentless
Originally posted by: nick1985

Because military basic training has you running 80-100 miles a week? :roll:

Usually 40-50km a week, but I don't recall him saying how much was "moderate" or "more". I didn't think we were talking about running multiple marathons a week...

Watch out for stress fractures. Even if you aren't experiencing any pain as of yet, if you haven't bought new shoes then your cushioning is woefully inadequate. You'll be setting yourself up for an unneeded injury
 

nick1985

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Originally posted by: Relentless
Originally posted by: nick1985

Because military basic training has you running 80-100 miles a week? :roll:

Usually 40-50km a week, but I don't recall him saying how much was "moderate" or "more". I didn't think we were talking about running multiple marathons a week...

Running 20-30 miles a week is nothing, so of course your shoes can last more than 6 months. So its not really fair for you to say a shoe sucks because it doesnt last 6 months...The amount of time it lasts is irrelavent, its the amount of miles they can take.
 

nick1985

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Originally posted by: JohnCU
Originally posted by: nick1985
Originally posted by: Relentless
Originally posted by: LyricRequiem
Even if you only run moderate amounts per wk, you'll burn through a pair of running shoes about every 6 mos. Run more than that and 2/3 months will be the max for your shoes.. it Sux

I disagree wholeheartedly. My shoes lasted through 4 months of basic military qualification and three months after that are still great. Don't buy shitty shoes.


Because military basic training has you running 80-100 miles a week? :roll:

you run 80-100 miles a week?

Yes sir. :thumbsup:
 
Aug 3, 2008
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Originally posted by: LyricRequiem
Watch out for stress fractures. Even if you aren't experiencing any pain as of yet, if you haven't bought new shoes then your cushioning is woefully inadequate. You'll be setting yourself up for an unneeded injury

I'm pretty much there already. It's because the shoe I have isn't for my kind of problem, so I've got some serious knee injuries that I'm looking into. This is my reasoning for looking into new shoes. The shoe is nearly the same as when I got it, and they did a lot more for my feet than my last pair.
 

Amused

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Old running shoes are great and comfortable for kicking around in, but they are so bad for your body.

Relentless, I know you think a shoe is still good if it has no holes and the tread is still good, but that's not why running shoes wear out so fast.

What wears out is the padding, shock absorbtion and support. I wouldn't run anymore in a pair I used for all of basic and AIT. I know they feel okay, but go try on a new pair of the same shoe and you'll feel a marked difference.

By all means keep the old pair to kick around in. Nothing beats a worn out running shoe for walking around and hanging out.

But for actual running, you want a shoe with all it's structures in place and new.
 
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I wouldn't be surprised if I was completely wrong here. I mean, they "feel" the same as the day I bought them, but hell, a slow gradual change from day 1 to now could go unnoticed, so you're probably right. I'm getting new shoes, anyways.
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: Relentless
I wouldn't be surprised if I was completely wrong here. I mean, they "feel" the same as the day I bought them, but hell, a slow gradual change from day 1 to now could go unnoticed, so you're probably right. I'm getting new shoes, anyways.

Yep, it's that gradual change that fools you. If they still make the same model go try them on at the store and walk/jog around a bit. You'll be shocked at how much your old shoes have changed.
 

Amused

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BTW, let me take the time to plug for Mizuno and New Balance. Two of the best running shoe brands I've ever had. And I'm old and tried many.
 

erub

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Originally posted by: nick1985
Originally posted by: JohnCU
Originally posted by: nick1985
Originally posted by: Relentless
Originally posted by: LyricRequiem
Even if you only run moderate amounts per wk, you'll burn through a pair of running shoes about every 6 mos. Run more than that and 2/3 months will be the max for your shoes.. it Sux

I disagree wholeheartedly. My shoes lasted through 4 months of basic military qualification and three months after that are still great. Don't buy shitty shoes.


Because military basic training has you running 80-100 miles a week? :roll:

you run 80-100 miles a week?

Yes sir. :thumbsup:

Dang, even when I was marathon training, I never ran much more than the 40s. A 20 miler plus another couple days of 8s with 5s thrown in. So thats about 12-14 miles per day..even at 6 min/mile pace thats still well more than an hr per day.
 

jessieqwert

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Originally posted by: nick1985
Originally posted by: JohnCU
Originally posted by: nick1985
Originally posted by: Relentless
Originally posted by: LyricRequiem
Even if you only run moderate amounts per wk, you'll burn through a pair of running shoes about every 6 mos. Run more than that and 2/3 months will be the max for your shoes.. it Sux

I disagree wholeheartedly. My shoes lasted through 4 months of basic military qualification and three months after that are still great. Don't buy shitty shoes.


Because military basic training has you running 80-100 miles a week? :roll:

you run 80-100 miles a week?

Yes sir. :thumbsup:

Not for military training you don't. Marine Corps Officer school was around 20-25 miles a week, tops. SEALs may hit 50-60 if you include every bit of running.
Also a lot of training is done in boots and utes.

So if you do 80-100 miles per week, good on you I guess but it would be an individually driven thing.
 

knawlejj

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I run about 3-6 miles a day, and have to say that investing in a good pair of running shoes is certainly worth it. Right now I use Adidas Microbounce (~$100) and love them if all's im going to be doing is running.

Otherwise for jogging, lifting, and casual walking I wear new balance.
 

Capt Caveman

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Originally posted by: SWScorch
Originally posted by: JohnCU
Originally posted by: Wonderful Pork
you should go get fit for a pair of running shoes at a store that specializes in running. After doing that I found a pair of Sauconys that I absolutely love and have no problem dropping ~$70/pair a couple times a year for them.

you have to buy multiple pairs a year?

Ohh I wish I only bought running shoes a couple times a year. A pair only lasts 500-600 miles, which, if I'm lucky, is about 2 months. Add in the fact that I have 3 pairs of trainers, track spikes, XC spikes, and 3 road flats, and I'm looking at buying a new pair at least every month.

500-600 miles is a lot? I find 300 miles is the max on trainers that I wear and lighter weight shoes only last a little more than 200.
 

Capt Caveman

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Originally posted by: Relentless
Also a general rule about running shoes, which usually holds true is this: The uglier the shoe, the better it is for running. If it's all shiny and has fucked up colors, it's probably a good shoe.

Sure.
 

Capt Caveman

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Originally posted by: SWScorch
Originally posted by: LyricRequiem
I am in dire need of a new pair of GOOD running shoes. My budget is a little tight- I don't mind dropping the money, I'm just scared of wasting my money on a pair I'm not really happy with. Has anyone bought a pair recently? I'm looking for something light with good support and cushioning. I have a slight over pronation. Any recommendations?

I cannot say this enough: Go to a specialty running store and get fitted for shoes. There is no way anyone here can recommend any running shoes for you without actually watching you run, analyzing your gait, your arch, your pronation (you said you overpronate slightly, but there are literally thousands of stability shoes [which reduce pronation] and all are different) and many other factors. Plus, what works for one person may not work for you. Once you get past the objective part (like getting stability shoes for pronation control), everything else is subjective. Heck, if your pronation is slight enough, you could even get away with neutral/cushioned shoes.

So go to a Fleet Feet or something along those lines and have them recommend some shoes. Anything they carry there will be quality, whether it is Nike, Asics, Saucony, Adidas or any other brand. Believe me, they won't mind and will bring out shoes all day long for you to ensure that you get the right shoe. I just bought some new lighweight trainers today (ended up buying the Asics Speedstars) but I must have tried on at least a dozen before I found a pair that I really liked. So they're used to that and will do everything they can to get you a shoe you like.

Good advice. First thing one needs to do is find out what kind of running shoe fits their foot and form. Stability, Neutral, Cushion, Motion Control, etc then each brand will have fit differently for each of the different type of shoes.

Like others, I go thru new set of shoes every couple of months though they may still look like new. I used to wear Asics but it got expensive. There's a New Balance Factory Store near me which sells discontinued/seconds at substantially discounted prices. I found a comparable shoe to my old Asics, the NB 1085 (a little bit more stability and cushion than the 903) and bought several pairs b/c they were on sale for only $45/pair.
 

destrekor

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I stick to Brooks. Damn great shoe that lasts, and the model I wear is a pretty basic fit, so it might not be good if you have some kind of abnormal aspect to your foot shape or stride.
Sadly, it has a price of close to $100/pair.
 

Bateluer

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Originally posted by: Howard
Go to a real running store and ask the staff to help find the right pair for you.

This, best advice to give to people who don't know what type of running shoe they need.

 

destrekor

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Originally posted by: Bateluer
Originally posted by: Howard
Go to a real running store and ask the staff to help find the right pair for you.

This, best advice to give to people who don't know what type of running shoe they need.

That.

Definitely. First time I picked up my Brooks, it was at Finish Line. A guy there was pretty knowledgeable and I asked about Brooks and he helped. But, wasn't entirely sure, because after a few months, I started getting shin splints. I thought, once again maybe I'm in the wrong shoes, so I went to a specialty running store near campus, and the guy their watched my stride and measured my feet, and agreed that the model I wore was a good choice, and maybe just worn down shoes. That was a much better pair for sure, lasted longer (think I'm still on that pair). Think maybe it was just a bad pair or for some reason I stressed that pair more, but cannot imagine why, our PT running is basically the same month after month.
 

KeithTalent

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I've been on New Balance 768s for about 5 years now (that's probably 7 or 8 pairs) and they are fantastic, for me. However, the best advice is to go to a running store and have them look at your feet and watch you walk, that will give you a much better indication of what you need.

KT
 

SWScorch

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Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Originally posted by: SWScorch

Ohh I wish I only bought running shoes a couple times a year. A pair only lasts 500-600 miles, which, if I'm lucky, is about 2 months. Add in the fact that I have 3 pairs of trainers, track spikes, XC spikes, and 3 road flats, and I'm looking at buying a new pair at least every month.

500-600 miles is a lot? I find 300 miles is the max on trainers that I wear and lighter weight shoes only last a little more than 200.

I think 500 miles is a general rule of thumb. I can get away with more; in fact, I used to let my shoes go to 1000 miles, but then I got a stress fracture after running 70mpw in shoes with 1000+ miles, so now I retire them before I feel the need to just to be safe. But I'm very light (135 lbs) and pretty efficient (I don't pronate at all) so I can use my shoes for a long time. Heavier runners and those with not-so-optimal form won't see their shoes last as long.

As a tangent to this point, I highly recommend using a training log to record your runs so you can track shoe mileage. I personally use Athleticore.com, which is cool because a lot of elite runners (Olympian Brian Sell included) use it and you can check out their logs. I tell you, looking at Sell's 160 miles per week really makes my own 75mpw seem modest in comparison!) and tracks a lot of stuff like shoe mileage automatically. There are some other running logs like coolrunning.com, runningahead.com and running2win.com that are pretty good too. Or you can just use a notebook and pen too, if you're old school like that!
 

BudAshes

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Originally posted by: nick1985
Originally posted by: JohnCU
Originally posted by: Wonderful Pork
you should go get fit for a pair of running shoes at a store that specializes in running. After doing that I found a pair of Sauconys that I absolutely love and have no problem dropping ~$70/pair a couple times a year for them.

you have to buy multiple pairs a year?

I have to buy new running shoes every 6 weeks.

Every 400-450 miles I change them out or my shins start to bother me. (I had a tumor removed from my shin bone, so its slightly weaker than normal)


Oh, and OP I recommend Nike Structure Triax. I have been using them for 7 years non-stop now and they have been working great for me. They arnt bricks, and they have a TON of cushioning. HIGHLY recommended. :thumbsup:

You run as far as i drive in about the same span of time.
 
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