Originally posted by: jahawkin
Rush 9-23-93
LIMBAUGH: OK. Welcome back and thank you very much. You're watching RUSH LIMBAUGH, the television show. Substance abuse--that means drug addicts. We're now going to cover their rehabilitation if this plan goes through.
Jerry Colangelo is the president of the Phoenix Suns. He's a man I've recently met this year as a guest of a friend of mine who's the coach of the Phoenix Suns, Paul Westphal. I went out during NBA finals in June--went--with them to Chicago. Had lunch with Mr. Colangelo. He's done miracles with this franchise. Six years ago, five of his players were charged with drug abuse and this kind of thing. And it--they've--they've got a wholesome operation out there--very cultured, very classy operation. Family entertainment's the way that they look at their basketball games and their team, and this re--it set them back. Colangelo vowed it's never going to happen again. He's got a player named Richard Dumas. One-time violator of the NBA drug policy. Got caught again violating the terms of his rehab. Colangelo says, I've had it. You're not playing here for this whole season. I don't care if you're clean. You've got to show me that you cannot--that you can stay clean for an entire career. I'm not going to pay you this kind of money.'
I want to let you read along with me a quote from Jerry Colangelo about substance abuse, and I think you'll find that he's very much right. Put it up, Chet, and I'll read along.
(Graphic on screen)
"I know every expert in the world will disagree with me, but I don't buy into the disease part of it. The first time you reach for a substance you are making a choice. Every time you go back, you are making a personal choice. I feel very strongly about that."
Jerry Colangelo President Phoenix Suns
LIMBAUGH: (Voiceover) He says that, I know every expert in the world will disagree with me, but I don't buy into the disease part of drug abuse. The first time you reach for a substance you are making a choice. Every time you go back, you're making a personal choice. I feel very strongly about that.'
What he's saying is that if there's a line of cocaine here, I have to make the choice to go down and sniff it. And I don't know how--how to do it, but if I was going to do it, I'd do it. If there were a gun here, it wouldn't fire itself. I've got to reach for it and--and pull the trigger. And his point is that we are rationalizing all this irresponsibility and all the choices people are making and we're blaming not them, but society for it. All these Hollywood celebrities say the reason they're weird and bizarre is because they were abused by their parents. So we're going to pay for that kind of rehab, too, and we shouldn't. It's not our responsibility.
Hmmm, I wonder if Rush still doesn't buy the disease part of drug abuse now??
Originally posted by: Ferocious
No qp?
I admire Rush for his courage. He got a bad rap on that ESPN thingy. I still frequently listen to him even though I'm no longer a conservative.
You just have to know HOW to listen to him. He blows O'Reilly out of the water imo.
Originally posted by: Tripleshot
this is a blatent attempt to squelch the law coming after him. This is a preimptive strike to try and circumvent charges against him. I hope he does recover from the addiction, bit prisons are full of people who don't get the same advantage as Rush. He shoiuld still be prosecuted and serve time if he is guilty of the crimes the law seeks him for.
And yes, I have heard him say many times law is soft on criminals. Now that he is one, I bet he sings a different tune.
Originally posted by: sbp
We've seen this happen before numerous times with different folks.
Wish I could say this was a surprise but considering Limbaugh's health problems, its not.
Here's hoping everything turns out well.
Such compassion.Originally posted by: BOBDN
Originally posted by: sbp
We've seen this happen before numerous times with different folks.
Wish I could say this was a surprise but considering Limbaugh's health problems, its not.
Here's hoping everything turns out well.
Limpbaugh's health problems? Are you joking?
He brought on his health problems himself.
If you or I tried this BS we wouldn't be in treatment.
He broke the law. He belongs in jail.
Here, this is for all you self-righteous conservative hypocrites.
?Judge not, that you be not judged. For with what judgment you judge, you will be judged and with the same measure you use, it will be measured back to you? (Matthew 7:1-2).
Originally posted by: BOBDN
Originally posted by: sbp
We've seen this happen before numerous times with different folks.
Wish I could say this was a surprise but considering Limbaugh's health problems, its not.
Here's hoping everything turns out well.
Limpbaugh's health problems? Are you joking?
He brought on his health problems himself.
If you or I tried this BS we wouldn't be in treatment.
He broke the law. He belongs in jail.
Here, this is for all you self-righteous conservative hypocrites.
?Judge not, that you be not judged. For with what judgment you judge, you will be judged and with the same measure you use, it will be measured back to you? (Matthew 7:1-2).
Originally posted by: sbp
Such compassion.Originally posted by: BOBDN
Originally posted by: sbp
We've seen this happen before numerous times with different folks.
Wish I could say this was a surprise but considering Limbaugh's health problems, its not.
Here's hoping everything turns out well.
Limpbaugh's health problems? Are you joking?
He brought on his health problems himself.
If you or I tried this BS we wouldn't be in treatment.
He broke the law. He belongs in jail.
Here, this is for all you self-righteous conservative hypocrites.
?Judge not, that you be not judged. For with what judgment you judge, you will be judged and with the same measure you use, it will be measured back to you? (Matthew 7:1-2).
So you are claiming Limbaughs health problems are self-created? How so doctor?
Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Originally posted by: BOBDN
Originally posted by: sbp
We've seen this happen before numerous times with different folks.
Wish I could say this was a surprise but considering Limbaugh's health problems, its not.
Here's hoping everything turns out well.
Limpbaugh's health problems? Are you joking?
He brought on his health problems himself.
If you or I tried this BS we wouldn't be in treatment.
He broke the law. He belongs in jail.
Here, this is for all you self-righteous conservative hypocrites.
?Judge not, that you be not judged. For with what judgment you judge, you will be judged and with the same measure you use, it will be measured back to you? (Matthew 7:1-2).
Wow - coming from BOBDN this is funny and quite ironic. Judge not, that you be not judged..... Hehe
Get over yourself already.
CkG
Originally posted by: Lucky
i dont deny there is fair amount of hypocrisy there. But I honestly think there is a difference between making that choice to do cocaine and being prescribed these painkillers and then being innocously hooked on them. I believe his story that he wanted to avoid further surgery. I'm a recovering drug addict that still struggles to this day, and I would most certainly put my situation with so-called "recreational drugs" in a far different category than Rush's.
plus that's like 10 years ago. not to say his words don't hold meaning now but it would be a little different than if he said it 3 months ago.
Originally posted by: BOBDN
Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Originally posted by: BOBDN
Originally posted by: sbp
We've seen this happen before numerous times with different folks.
Wish I could say this was a surprise but considering Limbaugh's health problems, its not.
Here's hoping everything turns out well.
Limpbaugh's health problems? Are you joking?
He brought on his health problems himself.
If you or I tried this BS we wouldn't be in treatment.
He broke the law. He belongs in jail.
Here, this is for all you self-righteous conservative hypocrites.
?Judge not, that you be not judged. For with what judgment you judge, you will be judged and with the same measure you use, it will be measured back to you? (Matthew 7:1-2).
Wow - coming from BOBDN this is funny and quite ironic. Judge not, that you be not judged..... Hehe
Get over yourself already.
CkG
That's right moron. Lardass had a nationwide radio show wherein he criticized and attacked people daily. He set the standard and now he and his dittoheads expect compassion for him.
What a bunch of fvcking hypocrites.
You people are totally transparent.
Yeah, then why not reflect for a moment on why you don't see any personal responsibility?Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Right Caddy, I know he takes full responsibility now that he's been caught. Where was he before, trying to keep the housekeeper from ruining his reputation. My comments were targeted at Queasy's apology but I put them in Rushes mouth. That wasn't really fair I know, but I have no sympathy here. I see his apology and remarks as nothing but script. His actions and his purported intimidation of his housekeeper are what I keep in mind. I see Rush as a profound hate spewer, so I cut him no slack. Live by the sword, die by it. Pray the sponsors don't worry about ratings. No wonder the guy was loony. He was drug crazed. And since he's not in treatment, I'm sure his statement was written under the influence of his pills, right? When I think he's reacting to real pain maybe I'll listen. I see just another pretentious fraud.Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: dahunan
Originally posted by: Flyermax2k3
I had a feeling he'd go into treatment/rehab as a result of these accusations. It'll be interesting to see how the media treats him during and after this fiasco compared to how they treat other prominent figures who have been through the same situation.
Anyway, I wish Rush good luck in the recovery process and hope he's able to stay sober. I no longer agree with the majority of his political views (I used to be a huge ditto-head) but I wish him good health and prosperity nonetheless.
Thank you.. Civility is refreshing to hear.
I likewise hope he gets clean and I commend him for having the balls to seek treatment considering how high profile his life is.
You're kidding, right. This guy has a forutne to loose if he doesn't succeed or pretend to. What will drive him isn't balls as likely as it is shame and greed. If this joker pulls this off he'll become a world class proponent of the virtues of getting clean. I got hooked after surgery, it's not a moral failure, see. I'm different than the scum out on the street. Hehe. Where's the moral responsibility and outrage and why does it always apply to somebody else? Mr. Hate met the fate of hate.
Read what he said before you make a bigger fool of yourself with your asshat comments. You can listen to what he said too if you can't read - it's on his site.
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Rush Limbaugh Statement on Prescription Pain Medication Stories
October 10, 2003
You know I have always tried to be honest with you and open about my life. So I need to tell you today that part of what you have heard and read is correct. I am addicted to prescription pain medication. I first started taking prescription painkillers some years ago when my doctor prescribed them to treat post surgical pain following spinal surgery. Unfortunately the surgery was unsuccessful, and I continued to have severe pain in my lower back and also in my neck due to herniated discs.
I am still experiencing that pain. Rather than opt for additional surgery for these conditions, I chose to treat the pain with prescribed medication. This medication turned out to be highly addictive. Over the past several years I have tried to break my dependence on pain pills and, in fact, twice checked myself into medical facilities in an attempt to do so. I have recently agreed with my physician about the next steps. Immediately following this broadcast, I am checking myself into a treatment center for the next 30 days to once and for all break the hold this highly addictive medication has on me.
The show will continue during this time, of course, with an array of guest hosts you have come to know and respect. I am not making any excuses. You know, over the years athletes and celebrities have emerged from treatment centers to great fanfare and praise for conquering great demons. They are said to be great role models and examples for others. Well, I am no role model. I refuse to let anyone think I am doing something great here, when there are people you never hear about, who face long odds and never resort to such escapes.
They are the role models. I am no victim and do not portray myself as such. I take full responsibility for my problem. At the present time the authorities are conducting an investigation, and I have been asked to limit my public comments until this investigation is complete. So, I will only say that the stories you have read and heard contain inaccuracies and distortions, which I will clear up when I am free to speak about them. I deeply appreciate all of your support over this last tumultuous week. It has sustained me. I ask now for your prayers. I look forward to resuming our excursion into broadcast excellence together.
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CkG
As if you would have the first clue about personal responsibility - all you have is your mirrors
CkG
Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Originally posted by: BOBDN
Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Originally posted by: BOBDN
Originally posted by: sbp
We've seen this happen before numerous times with different folks.
Wish I could say this was a surprise but considering Limbaugh's health problems, its not.
Here's hoping everything turns out well.
Limpbaugh's health problems? Are you joking?
He brought on his health problems himself.
If you or I tried this BS we wouldn't be in treatment.
He broke the law. He belongs in jail.
Here, this is for all you self-righteous conservative hypocrites.
?Judge not, that you be not judged. For with what judgment you judge, you will be judged and with the same measure you use, it will be measured back to you? (Matthew 7:1-2).
Wow - coming from BOBDN this is funny and quite ironic. Judge not, that you be not judged..... Hehe
Get over yourself already.
CkG
That's right moron. Lardass had a nationwide radio show wherein he criticized and attacked people daily. He set the standard and now he and his dittoheads expect compassion for him.
What a bunch of fvcking hypocrites.
You people are totally transparent.
yup - irony and arrogance - your display would be quite funny if it wasn't so sad.
CkG
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Yeah, then why not reflect for a moment on why you don't see any personal responsibility?Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Right Caddy, I know he takes full responsibility now that he's been caught. Where was he before, trying to keep the housekeeper from ruining his reputation. My comments were targeted at Queasy's apology but I put them in Rushes mouth. That wasn't really fair I know, but I have no sympathy here. I see his apology and remarks as nothing but script. His actions and his purported intimidation of his housekeeper are what I keep in mind. I see Rush as a profound hate spewer, so I cut him no slack. Live by the sword, die by it. Pray the sponsors don't worry about ratings. No wonder the guy was loony. He was drug crazed. And since he's not in treatment, I'm sure his statement was written under the influence of his pills, right? When I think he's reacting to real pain maybe I'll listen. I see just another pretentious fraud.Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: dahunan
Originally posted by: Flyermax2k3
I had a feeling he'd go into treatment/rehab as a result of these accusations. It'll be interesting to see how the media treats him during and after this fiasco compared to how they treat other prominent figures who have been through the same situation.
Anyway, I wish Rush good luck in the recovery process and hope he's able to stay sober. I no longer agree with the majority of his political views (I used to be a huge ditto-head) but I wish him good health and prosperity nonetheless.
Thank you.. Civility is refreshing to hear.
I likewise hope he gets clean and I commend him for having the balls to seek treatment considering how high profile his life is.
You're kidding, right. This guy has a forutne to loose if he doesn't succeed or pretend to. What will drive him isn't balls as likely as it is shame and greed. If this joker pulls this off he'll become a world class proponent of the virtues of getting clean. I got hooked after surgery, it's not a moral failure, see. I'm different than the scum out on the street. Hehe. Where's the moral responsibility and outrage and why does it always apply to somebody else? Mr. Hate met the fate of hate.
Read what he said before you make a bigger fool of yourself with your asshat comments. You can listen to what he said too if you can't read - it's on his site.
-----------------------------------
Rush Limbaugh Statement on Prescription Pain Medication Stories
October 10, 2003
You know I have always tried to be honest with you and open about my life. So I need to tell you today that part of what you have heard and read is correct. I am addicted to prescription pain medication. I first started taking prescription painkillers some years ago when my doctor prescribed them to treat post surgical pain following spinal surgery. Unfortunately the surgery was unsuccessful, and I continued to have severe pain in my lower back and also in my neck due to herniated discs.
I am still experiencing that pain. Rather than opt for additional surgery for these conditions, I chose to treat the pain with prescribed medication. This medication turned out to be highly addictive. Over the past several years I have tried to break my dependence on pain pills and, in fact, twice checked myself into medical facilities in an attempt to do so. I have recently agreed with my physician about the next steps. Immediately following this broadcast, I am checking myself into a treatment center for the next 30 days to once and for all break the hold this highly addictive medication has on me.
The show will continue during this time, of course, with an array of guest hosts you have come to know and respect. I am not making any excuses. You know, over the years athletes and celebrities have emerged from treatment centers to great fanfare and praise for conquering great demons. They are said to be great role models and examples for others. Well, I am no role model. I refuse to let anyone think I am doing something great here, when there are people you never hear about, who face long odds and never resort to such escapes.
They are the role models. I am no victim and do not portray myself as such. I take full responsibility for my problem. At the present time the authorities are conducting an investigation, and I have been asked to limit my public comments until this investigation is complete. So, I will only say that the stories you have read and heard contain inaccuracies and distortions, which I will clear up when I am free to speak about them. I deeply appreciate all of your support over this last tumultuous week. It has sustained me. I ask now for your prayers. I look forward to resuming our excursion into broadcast excellence together.
-----------------------
CkG
As if you would have the first clue about personal responsibility - all you have is your mirrors
CkG
Originally posted by: BOBDN
Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Originally posted by: BOBDN
Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Originally posted by: BOBDN
Originally posted by: sbp
We've seen this happen before numerous times with different folks.
Wish I could say this was a surprise but considering Limbaugh's health problems, its not.
Here's hoping everything turns out well.
Limpbaugh's health problems? Are you joking?
He brought on his health problems himself.
If you or I tried this BS we wouldn't be in treatment.
He broke the law. He belongs in jail.
Here, this is for all you self-righteous conservative hypocrites.
?Judge not, that you be not judged. For with what judgment you judge, you will be judged and with the same measure you use, it will be measured back to you? (Matthew 7:1-2).
Wow - coming from BOBDN this is funny and quite ironic. Judge not, that you be not judged..... Hehe
Get over yourself already.
CkG
That's right moron. Lardass had a nationwide radio show wherein he criticized and attacked people daily. He set the standard and now he and his dittoheads expect compassion for him.
What a bunch of fvcking hypocrites.
You people are totally transparent.
yup - irony and arrogance - your display would be quite funny if it wasn't so sad.
CkG
Explain your support of Limpbaugh in light of his drug addiction which he kept hidden from his "fans" and the rest of the world as he derided and attacked people while he did the same thing he criticized them for.
I know you're the world's #1 dittohead so let's hear how you explain this.
Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Yeah, then why not reflect for a moment on why you don't see any personal responsibility?Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Right Caddy, I know he takes full responsibility now that he's been caught. Where was he before, trying to keep the housekeeper from ruining his reputation. My comments were targeted at Queasy's apology but I put them in Rushes mouth. That wasn't really fair I know, but I have no sympathy here. I see his apology and remarks as nothing but script. His actions and his purported intimidation of his housekeeper are what I keep in mind. I see Rush as a profound hate spewer, so I cut him no slack. Live by the sword, die by it. Pray the sponsors don't worry about ratings. No wonder the guy was loony. He was drug crazed. And since he's not in treatment, I'm sure his statement was written under the influence of his pills, right? When I think he's reacting to real pain maybe I'll listen. I see just another pretentious fraud.Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: dahunan
Originally posted by: Flyermax2k3
I had a feeling he'd go into treatment/rehab as a result of these accusations. It'll be interesting to see how the media treats him during and after this fiasco compared to how they treat other prominent figures who have been through the same situation.
Anyway, I wish Rush good luck in the recovery process and hope he's able to stay sober. I no longer agree with the majority of his political views (I used to be a huge ditto-head) but I wish him good health and prosperity nonetheless.
Thank you.. Civility is refreshing to hear.
I likewise hope he gets clean and I commend him for having the balls to seek treatment considering how high profile his life is.
You're kidding, right. This guy has a forutne to loose if he doesn't succeed or pretend to. What will drive him isn't balls as likely as it is shame and greed. If this joker pulls this off he'll become a world class proponent of the virtues of getting clean. I got hooked after surgery, it's not a moral failure, see. I'm different than the scum out on the street. Hehe. Where's the moral responsibility and outrage and why does it always apply to somebody else? Mr. Hate met the fate of hate.
Read what he said before you make a bigger fool of yourself with your asshat comments. You can listen to what he said too if you can't read - it's on his site.
-----------------------------------
Rush Limbaugh Statement on Prescription Pain Medication Stories
October 10, 2003
You know I have always tried to be honest with you and open about my life. So I need to tell you today that part of what you have heard and read is correct. I am addicted to prescription pain medication. I first started taking prescription painkillers some years ago when my doctor prescribed them to treat post surgical pain following spinal surgery. Unfortunately the surgery was unsuccessful, and I continued to have severe pain in my lower back and also in my neck due to herniated discs.
I am still experiencing that pain. Rather than opt for additional surgery for these conditions, I chose to treat the pain with prescribed medication. This medication turned out to be highly addictive. Over the past several years I have tried to break my dependence on pain pills and, in fact, twice checked myself into medical facilities in an attempt to do so. I have recently agreed with my physician about the next steps. Immediately following this broadcast, I am checking myself into a treatment center for the next 30 days to once and for all break the hold this highly addictive medication has on me.
The show will continue during this time, of course, with an array of guest hosts you have come to know and respect. I am not making any excuses. You know, over the years athletes and celebrities have emerged from treatment centers to great fanfare and praise for conquering great demons. They are said to be great role models and examples for others. Well, I am no role model. I refuse to let anyone think I am doing something great here, when there are people you never hear about, who face long odds and never resort to such escapes.
They are the role models. I am no victim and do not portray myself as such. I take full responsibility for my problem. At the present time the authorities are conducting an investigation, and I have been asked to limit my public comments until this investigation is complete. So, I will only say that the stories you have read and heard contain inaccuracies and distortions, which I will clear up when I am free to speak about them. I deeply appreciate all of your support over this last tumultuous week. It has sustained me. I ask now for your prayers. I look forward to resuming our excursion into broadcast excellence together.
-----------------------
CkG
As if you would have the first clue about personal responsibility - all you have is your mirrors
CkG
me personally? I take plenty of personal responsibility for my actions and words.
Rush? Read what he said.
CkG
this is a blatent attempt to squelch the law coming after him. This is a preimptive strike to try and circumvent charges against him. I hope he does recover from the addiction, bit prisons are full of people who don't get the same advantage as Rush. He shoiuld still be prosecuted and serve time if he is guilty of the crimes the law seeks him for.
I wonder if his show will continue to advocate locking up drug addicts and throwing away the key ?
That's right moron. Lardass had a nationwide radio show wherein he criticized and attacked people daily. He set the standard and now he and his dittoheads expect compassion for him.
Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Originally posted by: Tripleshot
this is a blatent attempt to squelch the law coming after him. This is a preimptive strike to try and circumvent charges against him. I hope he does recover from the addiction, bit prisons are full of people who don't get the same advantage as Rush. He shoiuld still be prosecuted and serve time if he is guilty of the crimes the law seeks him for.
And yes, I have heard him say many times law is soft on criminals. Now that he is one, I bet he sings a different tune.
Umm...addiction to pain killers doesn't make one a criminal Now if he did something illegal I expect him to be charged and tried for it.
Dave - the "pause" is an "EIB operational pause" which just means his show isn't on the air at the moment. his show is noon to 3 eastern. The 2 day 20hr "pause" is until next monday at noon.
CkG
Originally posted by: glenn1
this is a blatent attempt to squelch the law coming after him. This is a preimptive strike to try and circumvent charges against him. I hope he does recover from the addiction, bit prisons are full of people who don't get the same advantage as Rush. He shoiuld still be prosecuted and serve time if he is guilty of the crimes the law seeks him for.
Him seeking treatment doesn't mean he can't or won't be prosecuted later. They are two seperate issues. Let the man get clean first, then we'll worry about what to do with him.
I wonder if his show will continue to advocate locking up drug addicts and throwing away the key ?
I haven't heard that he's asked for clemency, or any kind of special treatment by authorities. He hasn't been charged with a crime, so we don't know how he'll react. He may deny everything, cop a plea, or plead guilty or no contest and let the chips fall where they may. IMHO, pleading no contest would be the best solution all the way around. I'll have a ton of respect for him if he takes responsibility and does that rather than trying to excuse away his behavior, and i think most everyone else will too.
That's right moron. Lardass had a nationwide radio show wherein he criticized and attacked people daily. He set the standard and now he and his dittoheads expect compassion for him.
Asking for prayers to help him kick the habit isn't the same thing as looking for sympathy. And right now, compassion is the last thing he needs. Strength to beat the addiction is.
It is not taking responsibility to enter treament after you have been busted. To say it is just stupid because he is not responsible for entering the treament center he had no other choose once it got out six years after he started sure if he entered treatment 5,4,3,2, or even 1 year ago he would be being a little responsible. Also all we here is the lame excuses.