Rush Limbaugh taking advantage of the soldiers in Iraq

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lanche

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So according to some here Rush is not allowed to make money for the information that he provides? Provides by request I might add. Why not? What do you have against Capitalism? I mean you might as well be asking for the oil companies to return some of their "windfall" profits...oh wait...you are...nevermind.

Liberals want to give everything away...healthcare...wellfare...national security.

A liberal will always be a liberal and Rush is the anti-christ as far as their concerned. So are we really surpised that they expect him to give his products away for free?

"Socialism fails every time its tried" Rush Limbaugh
 

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Originally posted by: lanche
So according to some here Rush is not allowed to make money for the information that he provides? Provides by request I might add. Why not?
Because he pimped it as a "donating" to service personnel.
"Socialism fails every time its tried" Rush Limbaugh
Limbaugh fails every time he opens his fat, speed freaking mouth. Harvey Rubens
 

Jhhnn

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Rush can make money on anything he wants, lanche- it's clear, however, that his "support for the troops" begins and ends where other people's money comes into play... he's using the war the way a televangelist uses jesus, for his own gain...
 
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Originally posted by: lanche
So according to some here Rush is not allowed to make money for the information that he provides? Provides by request I might add. Why not? What do you have against Capitalism? I mean you might as well be asking for the oil companies to return some of their "windfall" profits...oh wait...you are...nevermind.

Liberals want to give everything away...healthcare...wellfare...national security.

A liberal will always be a liberal and Rush is the anti-christ as far as their concerned. So are we really surpised that they expect him to give his products away for free?

"Socialism fails every time its tried" Rush Limbaugh

I don't think anyone is asking him to give anything away for free (assuming that his online subscriptions are things of value, which is a topic for another day). I just take exception to the idea that he is somehow supporting the troops by offering online subscriptions at a 15% discount so people can buy them for the troops.

My guess, having been forward-deployed myself, is that at least 70% of the troops who receive these "gifts" will never, ever use them. It's like Trek saying they are supporting quadraplegics by letting people buy bicycles for them at 15% off. - he's just generating business while claiming, rather cynically IMO, to support the troops.
 

Uhtrinity

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Originally posted by: lanche
So according to some here Rush is not allowed to make money for the information that he provides? Provides by request I might add. Why not? What do you have against Capitalism? I mean you might as well be asking for the oil companies to return some of their "windfall" profits...oh wait...you are...nevermind.

Liberals want to give everything away...healthcare...wellfare...national security.

A liberal will always be a liberal and Rush is the anti-christ as far as their concerned. So are we really surpised that they expect him to give his products away for free?

"Socialism fails every time its tried" Rush Limbaugh


He can make all the money he wants, but for someone who is morally superior to hide money making behind a support the troops campaign is deplorable.
 

lanche

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Originally posted by: Jhhnn
Rush can make money on anything he wants, lanche- it's clear, however, that his "support for the troops" begins and ends where other people's money comes into play... he's using the war the way a televangelist uses jesus, for his own gain...


So Capitalism and Troop Support cannot be combined?

When people started buying Air Conditioners from "enter your favorite builder supply store name here" and sending them to Iraq, were you blasting the AC makers or the builder supply stores for making a profit while supporting the troops? Or were they morally wrong? Or did anyone attack them personally? I sure don't recall any attacks. All I heard was "what a great idea!" & "I want to help too!" Hell the AC makers didn't even offer a discount...those bastards!

Now you people don't like the product or the maker and screw it if its what the majority of Troops want, just as long as its an opportunity to bash someone you don't like or agree with.

Hypocrites

And by the way that is a terrible analogy. Televangelists take advantage of people's faith to be persuasive while Rush relys on persuasion with facts. Not to mention televangelists are proactive in pursiut of their opportunities whereas people brought this idea to Rush. Nice try though.

The left hates Rush because he tends to rub their faces in the facts and who would like that if it was contrary to their world view. So they choose a petty way to make hay out of something that happens everyday...capitalism.
 

lanche

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Originally posted by: DonVito
Originally posted by: daniel1113

He has donated more time and money to the troops than anyone here, guaranteed. Yeah, his morals are pretty low :roll:

Documentation of this?

I think those of us who have actually been one of "the troops" have given more than Rush could ever hope to. This is a man who makes $28M per year - don't ask me to be impressed because he claims to have whipped out his credit card to pay for an unspecified number of subscriptions whose proceeds are passed directly back to him.

I personally don't think giving subscriptions to a Rush Limbaugh website is "supporting the troops," whether the money comes from Rush or from someone else, but obviously others may feel differently. I see this as simple war profiteering on his part.




10 bucks says you would have a different opinion if you liked him.

If the troops are the one's that want to hear more of him and that is exactly what he is making available to them...tell me how that is NOT support?
 

daniel1113

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Originally posted by: DonVito
Originally posted by: daniel1113

He has donated more time and money to the troops than anyone here, guaranteed. Yeah, his morals are pretty low :roll:

Documentation of this?

I think those of us who have actually been one of "the troops" have given more than Rush could ever hope to. This is a man who makes $28M per year - don't ask me to be impressed because he claims to have whipped out his credit card to pay for an unspecified number of subscriptions whose proceeds are passed directly back to him.

I personally don't think giving subscriptions to a Rush Limbaugh website is "supporting the troops," whether the money comes from Rush or from someone else, but obviously others may feel differently. I see this as simple war profiteering on his part.

Worst reading comprehension skills, ever. Where did I compare Rush's donation to that of our troops?
 
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Originally posted by: lanche

10 bucks says you would have a different opinion if you liked him.

If the troops are the one's that want to hear more of him and that is exactly what he is making available to them...tell me how that is NOT support?

He isn't making anything available to them (with the exception of the limited number of subscriptions he is personally paying for) - he's just slightly discounting an existing commercial product.

Believe me, forward-deployed troops are far too busy to spend hours on Rush Limbaugh's website. As I said, I object to this "gift," in that the "beneficiaries" will, for the most part, never use it.
 
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Originally posted by: daniel1113

Worst reading comprehension skills, ever. Where did I compare Rush's donation to that of our troops?

I'm saying, as one of the troops, I (along with CaptKirk, Train, and many others) have given more to the troops than Rush, who has never served. You said, and I quote:

He has donated more time and money to the troops than anyone here, guaranteed.
 

daniel1113

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Originally posted by: DonVito
Originally posted by: daniel1113

Worst reading comprehension skills, ever. Where did I compare Rush's donation to that of our troops?

I'm saying, as one of the troops, I (along with CaptKirk, Train, and many others) have given more to the troops than Rush, who has never served. You said, and I quote:

He has donated more time and money to the troops than anyone here, guaranteed.

One would presume that I wouldn't mean other troops, both past and present.
 

Uhtrinity

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Originally posted by: lanche
Originally posted by: Jhhnn
Rush can make money on anything he wants, lanche- it's clear, however, that his "support for the troops" begins and ends where other people's money comes into play... he's using the war the way a televangelist uses jesus, for his own gain...


So Capitalism and Troop Support cannot be combined?

When people started buying Air Conditioners from "enter your favorite builder supply store name here" and sending them to Iraq, were you blasting the AC makers or the builder supply stores for making a profit while supporting the troops? Or were they morally wrong? Or did anyone attack them personally? I sure don't recall any attacks. All I heard was "what a great idea!" & "I want to help too!" Hell the AC makers didn't even offer a discount...those bastards!

Now you people don't like the product or the maker and screw it if its what the majority of Troops want, just as long as its an opportunity to bash someone you don't like or agree with.

Hypocrites

And by the way that is a terrible analogy. Televangelists take advantage of people's faith to be persuasive while Rush relys on persuasion with facts. Not to mention televangelists are proactive in pursiut of their opportunities whereas people brought this idea to Rush. Nice try though.

The left hates Rush because he tends to rub their faces in the facts and who would like that if it was contrary to their world view. So they choose a petty way to make hay out of something that happens everyday...capitalism.


At least you could argue the tropps would get more use out of AC than politcal propaganda.
Another thing that makes it diferent is self promotion that Rush engages in under the support the troops banner.
 

daniel1113

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Originally posted by: DonVito
Originally posted by: daniel1113

One would presume that I wouldn't mean other troops, both past and present.

Why would one presume that?

Because no one in their right mind would ever say otherwise, unless they would particularly fond of being flamed to death.
 

CaptnKirk

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Originally posted by: DonVito

Believe me, forward-deployed troops are far too busy to spend hours on Rush Limbaugh's website. As I said, I object to this "gift," in that the "beneficiaries" will, for the most part, never use it.


Look at it this way, real time.
As a soldier you're up on duty for a minimum 12 hours - 6 days a week, you might get half a day off every other seek, could be anything Monday through Sunday.
There are 168 hours in each week, and you're looking at some 200 or more troops to share the assets. Each gets an hour machine time.
If you don't have 2 computers . . . 32 of the soldiers don't get a turn.

What do you think that they'll do with their allocated web time ? Write their wives, husbands, kids, parents . . .
or worship at the Alter of Limbaugh's Ego.

I conside that a waste of time and money . . . they could have put $ 30 in snacks -
Jerkey, nuts, dried fruit, hard candy, cookies - baged or homemade,
and $ 10 postage sent to:

Any Military Unit
Deployed
APO AE 09391

Instead of one troop getting 'Manna Fron Rush', a group of a dozen or so, could share a treat from folks back home who really do care,
enough to send them something to let them know that they are appreciated.
A little warmth from the homeland.


 

ShadesOfGrey

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Originally posted by: BarneyFife
LOL@ Rushbots who worship Rush's fat ass.

LOL @ the Rush haters who invent new things to hate him for. This is a new low. He not only provided another way for troops to GET WHAT THEY WANT, he donated some himself. But I guess the liberal's "we support the troops too" whining is all they can do, don't dare think they'd act on it.:roll: I don't listen to Rush, but these attacks on him are baseless.

Now as to this notion that the troops actually don't want it or "object" to it. It's entirely BS. It's a totally volunteer thing, and will only go to those troops who REQUEST IT. You'd think if they requested it, that it means they do want it and don't "object" to it. But I suppose in the liberal's alter reality they really don't want it and "object".:roll:
 

CaptnKirk

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Originally posted by: ShadesOfGrey
Originally posted by: BarneyFife
LOL@ Rushbots who worship Rush's fat ass.

LOL @ the Rush haters who invent new things to hate him for. This is a new low. He not only provided another way for troops to GET WHAT THEY WANT, he donated some himself. But I guess the liberal's "we support the troops too" whining is all they can do, don't dare think they'd act on it.:roll: I don't listen to Rush, but these attacks on him are baseless.

Now as to this notion that the troops actually don't want it or "object" to it. It's entirely BS. It's a totally volunteer thing, and will only go to those troops who REQUEST IT. You'd think if they requested it, that it means they do want it and don't "object" to it. But I suppose in the liberal's alter reality they really don't want it and "object".:roll:

So why don't you just donate a few thousand to Rush and be done with it ?
Troops don;t really give a damn about listening or reading his crap, they've got more important things to do.

 

XMan

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It's not just the troops in Iraq, BTW, it's any US serviceperson with a verifiable APO address. That ups the potential number of soldiers who might use the service significantly.

Bandwidth and podcasting cost money, I really don't see why anyone is getting their panties in a bunch over this. I would be willing to bet that 15% pretty much wiped out any profit margin they had and they're doing it at-cost.
 

lanche

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Originally posted by: Uhtrinity
Originally posted by: lanche
Originally posted by: Jhhnn
Rush can make money on anything he wants, lanche- it's clear, however, that his "support for the troops" begins and ends where other people's money comes into play... he's using the war the way a televangelist uses jesus, for his own gain...


So Capitalism and Troop Support cannot be combined?

When people started buying Air Conditioners from "enter your favorite builder supply store name here" and sending them to Iraq, were you blasting the AC makers or the builder supply stores for making a profit while supporting the troops? Or were they morally wrong? Or did anyone attack them personally? I sure don't recall any attacks. All I heard was "what a great idea!" & "I want to help too!" Hell the AC makers didn't even offer a discount...those bastards!

Now you people don't like the product or the maker and screw it if its what the majority of Troops want, just as long as its an opportunity to bash someone you don't like or agree with.

Hypocrites

And by the way that is a terrible analogy. Televangelists take advantage of people's faith to be persuasive while Rush relys on persuasion with facts. Not to mention televangelists are proactive in pursiut of their opportunities whereas people brought this idea to Rush. Nice try though.

The left hates Rush because he tends to rub their faces in the facts and who would like that if it was contrary to their world view. So they choose a petty way to make hay out of something that happens everyday...capitalism.


At least you could argue the tropps would get more use out of AC than politcal propaganda.
Another thing that makes it diferent is self promotion that Rush engages in under the support the troops banner.



My point is given more from a principle stance as opposed to opinion. There are at least 25 million or so people, a lot of them troops I'm sure, that don't find any propaganda in what Rush says. I'm not saying that people want Rush more than ACs just that they are the same principle only different products.

I won't argue with you that Rush is a self promoter, thats one of the reasons he is the icon that he is. I would argue that there is no self promoting when someone suggests the idea as something you should consider and then fans back you up.
 

ShadesOfGrey

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Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
Originally posted by: ShadesOfGrey
Originally posted by: BarneyFife
LOL@ Rushbots who worship Rush's fat ass.

LOL @ the Rush haters who invent new things to hate him for. This is a new low. He not only provided another way for troops to GET WHAT THEY WANT, he donated some himself. But I guess the liberal's "we support the troops too" whining is all they can do, don't dare think they'd act on it.:roll: I don't listen to Rush, but these attacks on him are baseless.

Now as to this notion that the troops actually don't want it or "object" to it. It's entirely BS. It's a totally volunteer thing, and will only go to those troops who REQUEST IT. You'd think if they requested it, that it means they do want it and don't "object" to it. But I suppose in the liberal's alter reality they really don't want it and "object".:roll:

So why don't you just donate a few thousand to Rush and be done with it ?
Troops don;t really give a damn about listening or reading his crap, they've got more important things to do.

I don't listen to Rush so I'd rather donate my money to things like THIS but I will not denigrate those who wish to donate subscriptions to Rush for soldiers who want them. I will also not say that their donations aren't good enough. I will also not be so arrogant(like you and others) as to suggest I know what the troops do or don't want, all I can do is respond to their requests and statements. In this case with Rush, there was a request.
 

lanche

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Originally posted by: Jhhnn
Of course Rush pockets the money. He's a compassionate conservative, after all.

I'm sure snakeoil salesmen offered the same kind of deal to the public during the civil war...

Just to put this to bed.

Rush is matching each donation that comes in, so as it turns out he will profit nothing from this. And as advertised he is supporting the troops.

By the way, this is for troops worldwide and not just troops in Iraq.
 

HomerJS

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Originally posted by: lanche
Originally posted by: Jhhnn
Of course Rush pockets the money. He's a compassionate conservative, after all.

I'm sure snakeoil salesmen offered the same kind of deal to the public during the civil war...

Just to put this to bed.

Rush is matching each donation that comes in, so as it turns out he will profit nothing from this. And as advertised he is supporting the troops.

By the way, this is for troops worldwide and not just troops in Iraq.

Oh my, he's matching each donation with one of his own. But wait, his "donation" into this program ultimately goes back into his bank account. He's a marketing genius.

Maybe if he had offered access to the soilders for free up front people wouldn't be so cynical. Instead came up with this scheme "caller suggested it".

I have a better idea, for the sake of efficency all you people send your paychecks directly to the EIB network.
 

13Gigatons

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Limbaugh could easily afford to give every soldier in Iraq access to his website for free. PERIOD.
Limbaugh could easily afford to give every soldier in Iraq access to his website for free. PERIOD.
Limbaugh could easily afford to give every soldier in Iraq access to his website for free. PERIOD.
Limbaugh could easily afford to give every soldier in Iraq access to his website for free. PERIOD.
Limbaugh could easily afford to give every soldier in Iraq access to his website for free. PERIOD.
Limbaugh could easily afford to give every soldier in Iraq access to his website for free. PERIOD.
Limbaugh could easily afford to give every soldier in Iraq access to his website for free. PERIOD.
Limbaugh could easily afford to give every soldier in Iraq access to his website for free. PERIOD.


This is why people hate him because he is sneaky and yet so transparent. All those Dittoheads are putting money into Rush's online site. I bet he makes a profit off of this but we will never know how much.
 
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