Rush Limbaugh taking advantage of the soldiers in Iraq

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NeoV

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you idiots defending Rush are hilarious...take head out of ass, you'll see things much more clearly..
 

azazyel

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Originally posted by: lanche


Just to put this to bed.

Rush is matching each donation that comes in, so as it turns out he will profit nothing from this. And as advertised he is supporting the troops.

By the way, this is for troops worldwide and not just troops in Iraq.

Where did he say that?

Also, if a department store had a "Support Your Troops" sale where everything was 15% off but you actually had to send the item to them, would you feel that the store is supporting the troops? (In retail the markup is usually over 100%) Personally I wouldn't think this would be any different from any other sale but that's just me.

Would it make it all right if the store said it was going to donate an undisclosed amount of items to the troops along with it?
 

ArmyZ

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I don't listen to Rush so I'd rather donate my money to things like THIS but I will not denigrate those who wish to donate subscriptions to Rush for soldiers who want them. I will also not say that their donations aren't good enough. I will also not be so arrogant(like you and others) as to suggest I know what the troops do or don't want, all I can do is respond to their requests and statements. In this case with Rush, there was a request.[/quote]

Hey shades of grey... I don?t know you by your screen name here but thanks.

I followed to this link from my web tracker on my blogsite... thanks again.

Here's the skinny from a soldier's point of view.

Most of my friends (soldier friends that is)... love Rush... we like what he has to say and we appreciate ANY kind of support someone is willing to instigate. If everyone would quit focusing on how much money someone is making off something... and what level of altruism makes you better than the next charity driver... we'd all be a little better off. Not to mention, the soldiers would feel a little more loved.

This reminds me of a conversation I had with a guy about the govt' contractors that worked on our base. There's a group that were providing us with wireless internet access right in our tents... no hourly fees, no BS lines to stand in, none of the pain of an internet cafe... BUT... there was a 150 dollar sign up fee (which was waived if you had less than 6 months left in your deployment) and 75 dollars a month for the service. Now... of course to the average Joe... this sounds high... and to the average GI this is another reason to complain Here's the bottom line... they are providing a luxury in a WAR ZONE... this is not a vacation resort for the rich and famous... they get shot at, they get mortared, they get hit with IED's... only... they don?t get to carry firearms or any other means of self-defense. SO... I think they deserve every penny.

Now... for Rush... He's providing a service to his soldiers... who protect his right to be fat, jolly, and FILTHY STINKING RICH. I say let him REAP some benefits... that's what karma is right? Regardless of his reasons for hookin the soldiers up with free subscriptions... he is still creating something that benefits soldiers. This is more than I can say for most people. Quit bi***ing... suck it up... BUY A SOLDIER A SUBSCRIPTION... and drive on.

AS for me... I?m headed home to my beautiful wife in less than a week... I made it through a year of hell... with very little mental scarring and absolutely no physical ailments... I?m thankful for that... and I?ll continue to do my country a service in one way or another. Hell... even if I don?t... I definitely wont be raining on someone else's parade or griping because I wasn't the one that thought of the million dollar idea Go buy a "Support My Troops" car magnet you lazy bums... and quit bi***in'...
 

FrancesBeansRevenge

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I will refrain from addressing anyone in particular out of respect but I will say that even German soldiers wholeheartedly believed in their mission in WWII and also loved getting propaganda.. oops I mean 'news' from home that supported their efforts.
It's a simple truth that soldiers must be made to believe in their mission as much as possible... this is one of the reasons why the Pentagon has a propaganda dept.

IMHO, more often than not, asking a soldier for a honest assessment of the actions of his Commander-In-Chief is like asking Tom Cruise for his honest assessment of the Church of Scientology.

Are we going to sit around and pretend that the first casualty of war ISN'T the truth?
 

ArmyZ

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About the internet/phone access here in Iraq.

On my base... you get 30 minutes... period... and now that there is a much larger group of bodies... the lines are proportionally longer. I've put my name down, left the tent, returned two hours later... and finally had my name called to get my "share of the resources." So although that hasn't been the norm... it has definitely happened. Before our replacements started showing up... the wait would generally be between... 20-50 minutes. Now if you wanted to set the alarm clock for 3-4:30am... and come in then... chances are there wouldn?t' be a line.

Now... I don?t want to make anyone think our job over here isn't less glorious than they believe... BUT... let's say you (the soldier) are working a 12hr shift. (Which is unlikely)... That means you have 4hrs (8 to sleep) for R&R... now minus 20 minutes for your Navy shower and other hygiene (because we're only supposed to take 5-10min showers although that's rarely the case... water on, water off, lather, water on, rinse, water off, get out) that leaves you with 3hrs and 40 minutes to do whatever it is you please. Most of my friends (mix of several jobs, infantry, medics, eod, commo, etc.) spent about an hour to an hour and a half on the internet/phones every single day... Yes we write emails, yes we talk to wives, yes we buy needless crap and cool bolt-ones for the hotrod or whatever... but several of us (especially the commo guys) spent a lot of time surfing the web in search of entertainment, reading political blogs, posting on forums, etc.

Okay what are you getting at dude?

What I'm trying to say here is... every version of entertainment has its value... and the stress relief said entertainment provides is PRICELESS to us. That said, every source of entertainment is also SOLICITED... if the GI doesn't like Rush, he wont go to his site, he also wont ask for a subscription, he'll be browsing the billions of acres of cyber porn, or talking to his wife, or WHATEVER.

The only charities that are "wasted," IF you could even call it that... are the unsolicited ones. Yes there is a shortage of toilet paper lol... but is it impossible to get? No... Are there soldiers running around with dirty booties? No... lol we all wipe... and yes baby wipes are the shiznit. What I mean is the boxes full of junk food, candy, and reading material that wasn't solicited.

Soldiers like Rush, soldiers like bush (for the most part... check the voting), soldiers like people who donate ANYTHING, soldiers like the "America is the sh!t and if you're a terrorist we're going to kick your A$$" mentality... jump on the bandwagon or sit down and shut the hell up. Even propaganda is more useful to a soldier than negativity.


Anyways... I?ll post more as it comes to me... for now I?m going to go back to talking to my wife... I'm paying 5 dollars an hour (thanks to AT&T CyberZone... ) to talk to her and loving every dollar spent. It is 6:30am I've been up all night and I?m going to attempt to see her through the New Year. Sleep is underrated anyway.

If you want some more insight... check out my blogsite and the sites of my other military buddies @ http://dhmacdonell.blogspot.com peace everyone... and happy New Year.


by the way... i'm in kuwait now... that's why i have cyberzone... in iraq... most internet cafe's are brought to us by a company called SPAWAR ... they suck... they come in... set up shop... and leave. When something breaks... we call them they send someone a few days later and fix it. Luckilyfor me and mine... we bought our own civilian satellite internet setup... paid nearly 900/month for it and split the cost between the company (came to about 25/each... not bad). We had internet allllll dayyyyy long... even at work. But... i'm in communications... so that's a fringe benefit... 90% of the soldiers dont have that luxury (unless you're a captain or above of course). Later
 

CQuinn

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Look, even if the 15% discount takes the price of a subscription below the cost,
that puts it in the category of a business expense which can be written off as a charitable donation.
Matching the funds (if he is doing so), effectively doubles the taxable deduction he can take, not
counting the depreciation he can also add to the percentage of equipment and bandwidth used
for this charitable purpose.

He makes a clear profit in the doubling of his subscriber base, because each person that donates
one for the troops is also going to re-up thier own subscription either right then, or will do so
as it expires.

What happens to those subscriptions when the soldier moves back stateside?
What happens to those subscriptions as they expire?

Okay, so what am I getting at? Rush makes bank from this either way its played.
Its as much a generous offer as the guys calling to give me a lower interest rate
on my mortgage are being "generous".

ArmyZ - Happy New Year back, and stay safe. FWIW I hope you do get some benefit
from this offer.


 

db

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Rush is Barnum & Bailey rolled into one. " A sucker is born every day".
Exploit peoples' emotions and fears, and make money.
What a dick
 

PELarson

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Originally posted by: FrancesBeansRevenge
If people give me $100 for the troops I will donate $80 of it I swear. Aren't I an incredibly generous individual?

More like, If people give me $100 for the troops I will donate $5 of it I swear.
 

FrancesBeansRevenge

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Originally posted by: PELarson
Originally posted by: FrancesBeansRevenge
If people give me $100 for the troops I will donate $80 of it I swear. Aren't I an incredibly generous individual?

More like, If people give me $100 for the troops I will donate $5 of it I swear.

I was being overly generous but still getting fat with profit.
I am not only incredibly philanthropic but also a money making genuis.
This is America afterall, why can't I make money off of other's charity?
Capitlism at it's finest.
 

PELarson

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Originally posted by: FrancesBeansRevenge
Originally posted by: PELarson
Originally posted by: FrancesBeansRevenge
If people give me $100 for the troops I will donate $80 of it I swear. Aren't I an incredibly generous individual?

More like, If people give me $100 for the troops I will donate $5 of it I swear.

I was being overly generous but still getting fat with profit.
I am not only incredibly philanthropic but also a money making genuis.
This is America afterall, why can't I make money off of other's charity?
Capitlism at it's finest.

I wonder how much more profit Rush would have made if he had made this type of offer, For each subscription purchased by the listener I(Rush) will donate 2 subscriptions to military personnel. My bet is that he would see the number of subscriptions increase more than from his current offer.
 

Darkhawk28

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Originally posted by: PELarson
Originally posted by: FrancesBeansRevenge
Originally posted by: PELarson
Originally posted by: FrancesBeansRevenge
If people give me $100 for the troops I will donate $80 of it I swear. Aren't I an incredibly generous individual?

More like, If people give me $100 for the troops I will donate $5 of it I swear.

I was being overly generous but still getting fat with profit.
I am not only incredibly philanthropic but also a money making genuis.
This is America afterall, why can't I make money off of other's charity?
Capitlism at it's finest.

I wonder how much more profit Rush would have made if he had made this type of offer, For each subscription purchased by the listener I(Rush) will donate 2 subscriptions to military personnel. My bet is that he would see the number of subscriptions increase more than from his current offer.

The a-hole could've given every soldier in Iraq an account. I'm sure he could've covered his cost through corporate sponsorships and such. But, like the typical anal cyst, his puss oozes out in the form of unadulterated greed.
 

RightIsWrong

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The biggest crock of an arguement is that Rush has to pay for the bandwidth being utilized by his "generorsity". He pays a set fee for hosting, if at all. More thank likely, it is paid by whomever has syndicated his drug-addicted, fat a$$. If he gets flooded by those that are taking advantage of his "generosity", he still doesn't pay for additional bandwidth. They just time out and have to refresh their page.

Rush pays the same amount for bandwidth if he has one subscriber on the site or a million.
 
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