I find it interesting those planes dont have anybody using them except the Russian airforce. If they were so great why no international interest?
How many of you have actually watched the whole 1 hour of Putin's Speech.
I did. And even if russia has it's own problems and putin may not be perfect, he's actually a president while obama is an actor, for the sheeple, a very good one, for people with brains, not at all.
Ukraine is in Russia's sphere of influence.
I find it interesting those planes dont have anybody using them except the Russian airforce. If they were so great why no international interest?
BBC said:Russia expects investors to move up to $70bn (£42bn) of assets out of the country in the first three months of this year.
The sign that investors are becoming nervous about Russia comes amid sanctions and tensions over Ukraine.
Speaking to reporters on Monday, Andrei Klepach, Russia's deputy economy minister, also warned of stagnant growth and rising inflation.
He expects growth in the first quarter to be "around zero".
The Russian economy grew by just 1.3% last year, but Mr Klepach said it was "too soon" to talk about "a recovery from stagnation".
"There won't be a recession, but there is a problem of stagnation: it's length and depth," Mr Klepach said.
"Unfortunately the investment slump is continuing. I'm not ready to say how long it will continue."
The Russian economy ministry forecasts suggest $65-70bn of assets would be taken out of Russia this quarter, but Mr Klepach said the figure was likely to be closer to $70bn.
That would mark a significant rise on 2013, when capital outflows for the entire year totalled $63bn.
Mr Klepach said sanctions imposed by the US and EU in the wake of the Ukraine crisis had yet to have a significant impact, but said "worsening of relations is a significantly negative factor for economic growth and correspondingly influences the capital outflow."
Um, shouldn't the country in question decide which sphere of influence they want to be in? Instead of other countries deciding for them?
If, hypothetically, Russia should consider Finland to be in their sphere of influence (after all, Finland was once a part of the Russian empire before it won its independence), should we just stand by if Russia wants to dominate Finland against their will?
We're not forcing Ukraine away from Russia (if anything, Russia's belligerence is forcing Ukraine into our arms). Despite what the Russian propaganda may claim, the Ukrainian protestors who overthrew Yanukovych are not secret American agents. We're not forcing Ukraine to enter our sphere of influence. They don't want to be a Russian puppet. They asked for Western aid. Shouldn't their wishes count for something?
(On that note, I think Crimea belongs with Russia, and I'm fine with Russia taking Crimea, because that's what the Crimeans want. My beef with the Crimean takeover is the bullyish way in which Russia did it--sending in troops, shutting down opposition media, running propaganda campaigns claiming that Ukrainians are Nazis, etc.)
How many of you have actually watched the whole 1 hour of Putin's Speech.
I did. And even if russia has it's own problems and putin may not be perfect, he's actually a president while obama is an actor, for the sheeple, a very good one, for people with brains, not at all.
oh lawl! Careful, do not to be so condescending towards your fellow sheep.
How many of you have actually watched the whole 1 hour of Putin's Speech.
I did. And even if russia has it's own problems and putin may not be perfect, he's actually a president while obama is an actor, for the sheeple, a very good one, for people with brains, not at all.
I am so glad you assmunch warmongers have nothing to do with real foreign policy. Even Obama's bluster is better than the suggestions being posted in the last few days.
Attack Russia, really?
Arm Ukraine?
Put US troops in Ukraine?
Do a military buildup in Eastern Europe?
This isn't some shit hole middle eastern country we're talking about. Just ask yourself, outside of the USA, who makes the best and most varied set of guns / tanks / aircraft / missiles in the world? That's them.
Who else can blow up the world a few times over?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_ICBMs
Who else is making top notch high end interceptors?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sukhoi_Su-35
Who else is making a true stealth fighter?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sukhoi_PAK_FA
The SU-35 and PAK FA both suffer the same problem, while very good aircrafts they they are far behind on sensors etc. meaning they won't know the F-35 or F-22 is there until it's fox three and they've got an AMRAAM up their ass.
If, hypothetically, Russia should consider Finland to be in their sphere of influence (after all, Finland was once a part of the Russian empire before it won its independence), should we just stand by if Russia wants to dominate Finland against their will?
finland is scandanavia
finland is scandanavia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordic_Council
this already happened in ww2
do you know how that turned out?
No, it's not. They might be considered Nordic but Finland is not a part of Scandinavia. At least in its proper definition. It seems nowadays that butchering definitions and meanings is all the rage.
Um, do you know what happened?
USSR invaded in 1939, and they "won" (in the sense that Finland kicked their ass, but couldn't match Soviet numbers, so in 1940 they sued for peace and conceded some territory to the USSR). Why did the USSR invade? Because Finland at that point had been independent for only a few decades, and before that, it was a part of the Russian empire for over a century. The USSR considered Finland to be in its sphere of influence, and that it had the right.
But the West was not ready to let the USSR make that claim--the UK and France were preparing to send support, though they didn't because they had a different moustached dictator to worry about.
The fact that Finland proved capable of defending itself (though they still "failed" because they lacked the numbers) is irrelevant. My post was in response to someone who claimed that we should leave Ukraine alone because it's in Russia's sphere, which is BS. It's the wishes of the country that matters, which is why the West condemned the Soviet invasion of 1939 and wanted to send support (something that I doubt anyone today would've objected to in hindsight).
Russia doesn't seem postured at all to turn back.
Edward Snowden, and all his USA/NSA information, appears to be its trump card for the foreseeable future.
The number of operators of the SU-30 is long.
The SU-35, there are only 34 of them and they're all in Russia.
My point though was that Russia is extremely capable, unlike virtually every other country we've faced since WW II. No one else makes this kind of stuff outside of the USA, with the exception of the Eurofighter which is really a combined EU effort.
Then throw in the fact that Putin has a nearly 80% approval rating in Russia. He has a highly motivated, highly capable country. Isolating them will probably not give the same results as true dictatorships like N Korea. It might be a lot more like isolating Germany in the 1920s and 30s.
In fact, a strong argument can be made that we lost every proxy "battle" in the cold war. Korea, once a puppet gov't of the US, divided in half. Vietnam, a French colony, completely lost. Very dubious reasons for being in either of those "wars". Very dubious reasons for even contemplating any kind of conflict over a former Soviet republic.
how do you know this?
Some people need a bang on the head to wake up, and end up being thankful for it later, but most don't even think about it that much, so it's fine, it's nothing really, it's not meant to be hurtful, I'm not your enemy, but it does work.
Many people don't know what did it, it's a process, I don't remember the exact point myself either, being it 5 years ago, but I do remember the overall path.
In my case, I happened to have a very low level of brainwash, I wa uninformed, but even just that, it was absolute horrible time of my life, but I persevered and eventually broke through the ice.
the N035 Irbis-E AESA is the newest Russia's got right now and it's nowhere near a match for the APG-81 (Russia just can't match the R&D of western projects). The APG-81 actually exceeded it's development goal while the Indians have been bitching about the T-50's capabilites including it's AESA radar, that isn't even finished yet and is completely dependent on India funding R&D. the T-50 also has an underpowered engine right now, and are banking on designing a better one down the road. But if India pulls out, the whole PAK-FA project is going to crash. India is also claiming that stealth wise it's no match for 2nd gen. stealth fighters (f-22 and f-35) due to many factors among which is shitty construction.
the reason india is looking for military procurement outside russia is because russia keeps acting like a ghetto gangster trying to make shitty equipment and then ask more money for it
that aircraft carrier russia tried to con them out of more money and now it has problems with boilers or something
when the dassault mirage won the india aircraft contest both russia and america made a fuss
the american ambassador resigned while the russians cancelled a joint military training excercise
Depending on how isolated they become. I think it is possible they become more like Iran. And energy rich state that is poor and run by fanatics.
the PAK-FA is a joint project between Russia and India, they've sunk a lot of money into this. These comments are coming from the military, not some politician getting cold feet. They're legitimately unimpressed with how the project has turned out so far.
so... business as usual?