Russia gets Crimea

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bshole

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Well I know that Scandanavian women are by far the best looking women in the world. I know that Sweden and Norway are in that group. Troller, are you saying that Finnish women are all dog-faces? I did not know that. I wrongly assumed that they were 5'10 blonde bombshells like the women in Sweden and Norway.
 

Genx87

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Then you're falling into exactly the trap that I outlined.

I did not intend to get into a "SU-35 vs F-22" debate.

I'll say that I absolutely believe the F-22 is superior. The F-35 - frankly that does not yet exist in service (and neither does the PAK-FA).

But none of that really matters.

What I'm saying is that the fact that an SU-27, SU-30, SU-35 exists in the first place and that they originate from Russia implies something.

Specifically, that they are not like Iraq, Iran, Egypt, Libya, Syria - who all make nothing.

The fact that Russia designed, tested, built, and exported those weapons implies a magnitude of order more capability on their part.

And you're comparing the country that built and designed those aircraft to Iran, who builds exactly what? Oh wait, they've spent the last 10 years trying to make a nuclear reactor - something Russia did what, 65 years ago?

So you don't want to get into a debate about airplanes yet that is all you blabbed about to my response which had nothing to do with airplanes. kk
 

k3n

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So you don't want to get into a debate about airplanes yet that is all you blabbed about to my response which had nothing to do with airplanes. kk


To add to the debate, the Sukhois originated from the Soviet Union; Sukhoi was a Belorussian and Mikoyan was an Armenian. Thanks to advancements to fly by wire technology, even mig-15's and such are given noticeable improvements... The Sukhoi Su-27 has superior maneuverability, but its beyond visual range capabilities are probably inferior to America's and even the Eurofighter typhoon, especially due to the 1990's shock therapy of Russia and the former Soviet blocks.

And of course lets not get started on the "$857 billion (projected over 55 years)" F-35 program, lol.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8fNjfAIy_g
 
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bshole

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I predict another set of protests/coup as Ukraine's new government accepts the IMF conditions. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOpvOdh9zxo

Seriously how can I profit knowing this? What should I invest in, or the put options I should get involved in?

When you find out, please let me know. I am more than willing to profit off disaster. I haven't pulled out of the market yet but my hand is on the trigger. Hopefully this all blows over quickly and we can get back to normal.
 

Genx87

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When you find out, please let me know. I am more than willing to profit off disaster. I haven't pulled out of the market yet but my hand is on the trigger. Hopefully this all blows over quickly and we can get back to normal.

Short the Russian stock market. Profit!
 

fskimospy

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When you find out, please let me know. I am more than willing to profit off disaster. I haven't pulled out of the market yet but my hand is on the trigger. Hopefully this all blows over quickly and we can get back to normal.

The guy who constantly attacks other people for not caring about other people says he's more than willing to profit off disaster.
 

bshole

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Eski,

You can be really mean sometimes. It is not nice to DELIBERATELY hurt people's feelings.
 

postmortemIA

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By now so called government of Ukraine probably has made a secret deal with Russia - Crimea in exchange for debt forgiveness
 

Broheim

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lol. I was thinking the same thing when looking at a map yesterday--was going to post that but didn't know if you'd laugh or be offended.

the worst part is that they're sexually harassing Denmark... fucking Swedes.


anyway, Denmark and France are sending more aircraft to the baltics as a "fuck you" to Russia.
 

HamburgerBoy

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So what you're telling us is that Norway and Sweden together comprise a bifurcated phallus of which Finland plays the role of scrotum.
 

TROLLERCAUST

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the worst part is that they're sexually harassing Denmark... fucking Swedes.

You like it, don't you?

Yes, the actual coin isn't missing Norway. But that's the point of the joke.

Actually it is. Just checked my wallet. The older coins only have the EU at the time and newer coins have most of Europe drawn.

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It's spring time in Latvia and what that means is ethnic tension. Latvian nationalists are marching in remembrance of those who gave their life in fighting communism and red terror. The occupiers (Russians) accuse them of being fascists. Every year it's the same. In Ukraine Russia is using paid propagandists and thugs to spread disinformation to the media and promote violence. There's some speculation that it happens or has happened in Latvia as well. Couldn't say for sure and the sources weren't exactly top quality but it wouldn't surprise me one bit. Here's a good article. Anyone interested should read it.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-26720549

BBC: Crimea crisis sharpens Latvia ethnic tensions

A mournful procession of about 1,500 Latvians winds its way through Riga's medieval Old Town singing traditional Latvian songs.
Elderly World War Two veterans lead the crowd.

And many of the participants are carrying flowers to lay at the Freedom Monument, Latvia's symbol of national independence.

They have come here to commemorate those who died defending Latvia against the Soviet Union in the war.

But with Russian troops now in nearby Ukraine, many in the Baltics are alarmed that history may be about to repeat itself.

"If Ukraine falls, then Russian ambitions won't stop with this. I believe we will be next in Russia's list of actions," said one young man who had come to take part in the procession.

"It shows the attitude of Russia - how it goes into another country very easily and acts in an aggressive manner," said another.

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What Russia needs to do is to have a good reflective look on their Soviet era history and get past it (Stalin was voted the 3rd greatest Russian by the Russian people in 2008). Forget this Greater Russia nonsense. Quit playing the victim and the martyr (after reading countless posts on other forums and the media from Russians, you'll know what I mean). Germans did it. Look at where they are now. Nazi-Germany 70 years ago which started a war leading to its and most of Europe's destruction, now they're one of the most respected and trusted nations on Earth and in Europe. The Soviet Union was a shithole and a scumbag, so is modern Russia.
 

code65536

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What Russia needs to do is to have a good reflective look on their Soviet era history and get past it (Stalin was voted the 3rd greatest Russian by the Russian people in 2008). Forget this Greater Russia nonsense. Quit playing the victim and the martyr (after reading countless posts on other forums and the media from Russians, you'll know what I mean). Germans did it. Look at where they are now. Nazi-Germany 70 years ago which started a war leading to its and most of Europe's destruction, now they're one of the most respected and trusted nations on Earth and in Europe. The Soviet Union was a shithole and a scumbag, so is modern Russia.

The problem is leadership. Yeltsin was inept and the resulting economic collapse left many bitter and resentful.

Putin used energy windfalls to stabilize the situation, but he is the one harboring delusions of Soviet grandeur, so he did nothing to "modernize" Russia--he played the nationalism card, silenced any opposition that would have pivoted Russia to the west, and now he's using all this to shore up his power base. He's actively promoting this attitude that you describe, and it's amplified by his propaganda and censorship.

Whereas with Germany, there were concerted efforts to undo and counter those Nazi vestiges.
 

werepossum

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You like it, don't you?



Actually it is. Just checked my wallet. The older coins only have the EU at the time and newer coins have most of Europe drawn.

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It's spring time in Latvia and what that means is ethnic tension. Latvian nationalists are marching in remembrance of those who gave their life in fighting communism and red terror. The occupiers (Russians) accuse them of being fascists. Every year it's the same. In Ukraine Russia is using paid propagandists and thugs to spread disinformation to the media and promote violence. There's some speculation that it happens or has happened in Latvia as well. Couldn't say for sure and the sources weren't exactly top quality but it wouldn't surprise me one bit. Here's a good article. Anyone interested should read it.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-26720549

What Russia needs to do is to have a good reflective look on their Soviet era history and get past it (Stalin was voted the 3rd greatest Russian by the Russian people in 2008). Forget this Greater Russia nonsense. Quit playing the victim and the martyr (after reading countless posts on other forums and the media from Russians, you'll know what I mean). Germans did it. Look at where they are now. Nazi-Germany 70 years ago which started a war leading to its and most of Europe's destruction, now they're one of the most respected and trusted nations on Earth and in Europe. The Soviet Union was a shithole and a scumbag, so is modern Russia.
Well said.

The problem is leadership. Yeltsin was inept and the resulting economic collapse left many bitter and resentful.

Putin used energy windfalls to stabilize the situation, but he is the one harboring delusions of Soviet grandeur, so he did nothing to "modernize" Russia--he played the nationalism card, silenced any opposition that would have pivoted Russia to the west, and now he's using all this to shore up his power base. He's actively promoting this attitude that you describe, and it's amplified by his propaganda and censorship.

Whereas with Germany, there were concerted efforts to undo and counter those Nazi vestiges.
Yep. Germany ruthlessly stamped out its Nazi element, making its attitudes completely socially unacceptable. Russia, with possibly an even worse record, increasingly embraces their Soviet past.
 

k3n

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You like it, don't you?



Actually it is. Just checked my wallet. The older coins only have the EU at the time and newer coins have most of Europe drawn.

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It's spring time in Latvia and what that means is ethnic tension. Latvian nationalists are marching in remembrance of those who gave their life in fighting communism and red terror. The occupiers (Russians) accuse them of being fascists. Every year it's the same. In Ukraine Russia is using paid propagandists and thugs to spread disinformation to the media and promote violence. There's some speculation that it happens or has happened in Latvia as well. Couldn't say for sure and the sources weren't exactly top quality but it wouldn't surprise me one bit. Here's a good article. Anyone interested should read it.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-26720549

What Russia needs to do is to have a good reflective look on their Soviet era history and get past it (Stalin was voted the 3rd greatest Russian by the Russian people in 2008). Forget this Greater Russia nonsense. Quit playing the victim and the martyr (after reading countless posts on other forums and the media from Russians, you'll know what I mean). Germans did it. Look at where they are now. Nazi-Germany 70 years ago which started a war leading to its and most of Europe's destruction, now they're one of the most respected and trusted nations on Earth and in Europe. The Soviet Union was a shithole and a scumbag, so is modern Russia.

Ha, I bet this guy's pissed because his nation was subjected to "Finlandization".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finlandization
Russia did admit to staging a false flag to engage Finland in the Winter war, so lets get past the name calling. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shelling_of_Mainila

P.S. the Russians tried to be butt buddies with the west during the 1990s and they experienced high rates of abortion, alcoholism, prostitution, racketeering, and their women being brided by westerners. Heck, Russia back then and maybe today, could be considered the child porn capital [citation needed], or that may be, Japan. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shock_therapy_(economics)
It was so bad that during Putin first election in 1999, the communist party gained the second largest popular votes.

1 of the reasons Stalin is admired is because his 5 year plan, turned the Soviet Union from a piss poor peasant country like Maoist China, to an economic and industrial might within 4 years. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Five-Year_Plan. Without it, more Soviets/Russians, would have fallen casualty to the inevitable Nazi invasion.

Their "bretheren" Serbs were attacked in 1999 (one of the reasons Russia entered WWI, as well as to take back Crimea from the Ottomans/Turkic, in 1914 or so) without U.N. authorization, just like in Iraq 2003. Also the NATO alliance has been expanding eastward towards Russia, way past the former Iron curtain. I'd like to know how you all would react if China or Russia were expanding through Latin America, and of course took control of the Panama canal. Of course since Cnn/Msnbc/Fox news tells says these aren't proper "democracies/republics", then its unjustified, lol.

There's a reason Putin had an %80 approval rating: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Russian_economy_since_fall_of_Soviet_Union.PNG

Before you rant about me using Wikipedia; Wikipedia only allows information approved by your "free press"/"reliable" source. If you don't believe, try becoming a "contributor" yourself. They're more lenient if its a low profile subject, such as a an indie/metal music band.

And of course, one of the reasons they Nazi's came into power by popular vote, was due to the hard economic measures imposed on the nation, by the Versailles treaty. After WWII, they and much of Europe got the "marshall plan", which I'm was nowhere as brutal as those of the loan sharking IMF [citation needed].
 
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rpsgc

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P.S. the Russians tried to be butt buddies with the west during the 1990s and they experienced high rates of abortion, alcoholism, prostitution, racketeering, and their women being brided by westerners.

Spoken like a 'true' Russian. It's all the West's fault! Lack of morals? West's fault! Lack of civic virtues? West's fault! Too much corruption and crime? West's fault!

I guess that's why there are so many Russians living, working and studying in the West :hmm:
 
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fskimospy

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Spoken like a 'true' Russian. It's all the West's fault! Lack of morals? West's fault! Lack of civic virtues? West's fault! Too much corruption and crime? West's fault!

I guess that's why there are so many Russians living, working and studying in the West :hmm:

By the way that 'moral decline' storyline is taken basically verbatim from Russian state news and propaganda networks. That's one of their primary vehicles for trying to separate Russia from the west; decrying their supposed degenerate morals.
 

hal2kilo

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Well I know that Scandanavian women are by far the best looking women in the world. I know that Sweden and Norway are in that group. Troller, are you saying that Finnish women are all dog-faces? I did not know that. I wrongly assumed that they were 5'10 blonde bombshells like the women in Sweden and Norway.

Guy who works for me grew up in Astoria, OR. He claims it has the largest population of Fins in the USA on the west coast. Seems they are or the ones who settled there are fisherman.


Says Finns are short and dark, look nothing like Norwegians or Swedes.
 
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