Russia gets Crimea

[senseamp]

Yats the rat quits. The US govt stooge in Ukraine calls it quits..

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-...nes-government-collapses-pm-yatsenyuk-reisgns

He seems like a decent guy to me. He is working for his country's interests.

 

[Jaskalas]

Taking bets on WW3.

[FONT=ARIAL,VERDANA,HELVETICA]UKRAINIAN FORCES DESTROY RUSSIAN CONVOY[/FONT]

 

[fskimospy]

Taking bets on WW3.

[FONT=ARIAL,VERDANA,HELVETICA]UKRAINIAN FORCES DESTROY RUSSIAN CONVOY[/FONT]

Define what you mean by WW3 and I'll probably take that bet!

It will be interesting to see how Putin tries to lie his way out of that one.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Define what you mean by WW3

WW3 = www.russiagotpwned.com

 

[Jaskalas]

Define what you mean by WW3 and I'll probably take that bet!

It will be interesting to see how Putin tries to lie his way out of that one.

Lie? Hell, I expect Russia to openly engage Ukraine in war. The goal would be removing Ukraine military from the equation so Russian convoys to the rebels are secure.

 

[fskimospy]

Lie? Hell, I expect Russia to openly engage Ukraine in war. The goal would be removing Ukraine military from the equation so Russian convoys to the rebels are secure.

Regardless of what Russia's military actions are, Putin will attempt to concoct a lie about how it's all ukraine's fault that his troops were in their country. I'm interested to see what that will be.

I don't have a good feeling for what Russia will do here. They seem to have expressed a strong preference for low level destabilization efforts out of fear of the west. A full on attack would make things much worse. Then again, Russia has kind of been cornered here so they may feel that they have no way out.

 

[Sattern]

Expect a nice resort being developed in Crimea, it used to be part of Russia anyways so I don't see why they are making a big deal about it. They just took back what they lost in previous compromises.

I like Putin better than the president we have now, he follows through with what he says and does the best for his people.

 

[fskimospy]

Expect a nice resort being developed in Crimea, it used to be part of Russia anyways so I don't see why they are making a big deal about it. They just took back what they lost in previous compromises.

I like Putin better than the president we have now, he follows through with what he says and does the best for his people.

If you would rather live under Putin than Obama I would suggest you go learn more about Putin.

 

[rpsgc]

I like Putin better than the president we have now, he follows through with what he says and does the best for his people.

That's like saying you like Hitler more than Chamberlain.

 

[Brainonska511]

I like Putin better than the president we have now, he follows through with what he says and does the best for his people.

Idiot.

Does what's best, like driving up food prices with retaliatory import bans on foreign food? Does what's best like steering the Russian economy from a recovery track back towards a recession? Does what's best by alienating Russia's closest trading partners?

 

[gevorg]

Ukraine is getting very desperate in attempts to backstab/demonize Russia anyway it can, even with a humanitarian convoy. Meanwhile shelling of civilians continues and deaths doubled in the last two weeks.

 

[Genx87]

Ukraine is getting very desperate in attempts to backstab/demonize Russia anyway it can, even with a humanitarian convoy. Meanwhile shelling of civilians continues and deaths doubled in the last two weeks.

Desperate? You mean they are defending their territory from a Russian invasion that included armored vehicles? Ukraine doesnt need to demonize Russia. Russia does a well enough job proving over and over they are rightly demonized. If this story is true about the Ukrainians attacking a Russian armored column within Ukraine. Russia can forget about trying to pretend they arent in Ukraine.

 

[fskimospy]

Ukraine is getting very desperate in attempts to backstab/demonize Russia anyway it can, even with a humanitarian convoy. Meanwhile shelling of civilians continues and deaths doubled in the last two weeks.

See here's a start! It's Ukraine's fault that Russia keeps invading them.

I knew you could be counted on to give us the RT perspective. Keep defending these scumbags!

As for your "humanitarian" convoy...

I'm sure those guns just fire sandwiches.

http://dish.andrewsullivan.com/2014/08/14/does-this-look-like-humanitarian-aid-to-you/

EDIT: Not to mention that when outsiders inspected the convoy large numbers of the trucks were mysteriously empty and Russia sent large numbers of trucks without identifying plates, making them impossible to track. Anyone who isn't blind can see what game they are playing.

 

[code65536]

Ukraine is getting very desperate in attempts to backstab/demonize Russia anyway it can, even with a humanitarian convoy. Meanwhile shelling of civilians continues and deaths doubled in the last two weeks.

Two can play that game: if the "rebels" (ahem, Russian agents) surrendered, then there's no need for deaths.

As for the humanitarian convoy, can you blame Ukraine for being suspicious, given Putin's track record? Only a fool would trust Putin's words--that megalomaniac has squandered every last ounce of trust and has to earn it back. Ukraine's conditions are pretty reasonable, too: cross the border at a Ukrainian checkpoint, the cargo should be inspected, and the convoy accompanied by a neutral third party, like the Red Cross.

Let's see if Russia meets those reasonable demands, or if it'll somehow turn it against Ukraine, e.g., a false flag attack against it. That's certainly nothing new for Putin.

 

[cirrrocco]

Can you guys produce one active russian soldier that the Ukrainians claim to have fought. Nill nada.

well if the rebels [civil war] surrendered there would not have been USA

 

[fskimospy]

Can you guys produce one active russian soldier that the Ukrainians claim to have fought. Nill nada.

well if the rebels [civil war] surrendered there would not have been USA

You realize there is satellite evidence of Russian artillery being fired from within Russia into Ukraine, right?

Are the Putin apologists coming back to defend this latest aggression? How fun!

 

[cirrrocco]

You realize there is satellite evidence of Russian artillery being fired from within Russia into Ukraine, right?

Are the Putin apologists coming back to defend this latest aggression? How fun!

That has been discredited. it was such a hack job not even funny

 

[cirrrocco]

You realize there is satellite evidence of Russian artillery being fired from within Russia into Ukraine, right?

Are the Putin apologists coming back to defend this latest aggression? How fun!

Oh look the neocon hack is back here working his goebellian fantasies. where were you when the US was peddling its Syrai / Libya / Kosovo/ Iraw itch

 

[fskimospy]

Oh look the neocon hack is back here working his goebellian fantasies. where were you when the US was peddling its Syrai / Libya / Kosovo/ Iraw itch

I was still a teenager for Kosovo, was opposing US intervention in Syria, and opposing US intervention in Iraq. I was ok with Libya though.

Look who's a hack now!

 

[fskimospy]

That has been discredited. it was such a hack job not even funny

Links plz.

(awaiting RT links)

 

[senseamp]

VICE news has good on the ground coverage from conflict zones, Ukraine, Gaza, etc.
Something you won't get from so called media organizations.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKGQnJs6C2Y

 

[cirrrocco]

Links plz.

(awaiting RT links)

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/2014/07/launches 3.jpg

The launch and impact site is both within Ukraine

 

[fskimospy]

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/2014/07/launches 3.jpg

The launch and impact site is both within Ukraine

LOL Zerohedge.

Any non-conspiracy nutter site links?

 

[cirrrocco]

I was still a teenager for Kosovo, was opposing US intervention in Syria, and opposing US intervention in Iraq. I was ok with Libya though.

Look who's a hack now!

i did not see you create a thread or post in a thread and keep opposing the war mongers here. In LIbya the US had a surveillance mission and they started bombing. That was a blatant violation of the mandate. and you support that!!!!..

 

[cirrrocco]

LOL Zerohedge.

Any non-conspiracy nutter site links?

dude seriously man. That image was from the SD.

http://media.utsandiego.com/img/pho...JPEG?b0f0cf804b45a2830ba759010b8a41b9b1684c1a