<-- sadly that is the truth...unless of course Europe wants to shoulder most of the military responsibility......I will let you in on a secret -- they don`t want any part of Russia.....trust me....
<-- sadly that is the truth...unless of course Europe wants to shoulder most of the military responsibility......I will let you in on a secret -- they don`t want any part of Russia.....trust me....Ah, I had not heard that Ukraine had invoked it. Since it was not an official treaty however, I find it highly unlikely that the west finds it legally binding. (Conveniently)
what`s sad and funny at the same time is your responses.....Obama tells him not to, what the fuck does that dumb shit think Putin is going to do. I mean really, does Obama think that he has any say in what Putin is going to do. What will be funny is how the dumb fuck responds.
That report originates from a blog...doh and it claims there may be 1,000 NATO troops....well doh...the Russians are Skered now.....Some reports say NATO troops have already entered Western Ukraine.
nonsense....you know nothing about their broken infrastructure....sure they may have all that available but they do not have the technology to make use of all that...bottom line is this more about a run away Russian puppet state than Russia desiring their resources!Ukraine has extremely rich and complementary mineral resources in high concentrations and close proximity to each other. Rich iron ore reserves located in the vicinity of Kryvyy Rih, Kremenchuk, Bilozerka, Mariupol, and Kerch form the basis of Ukraine’s large iron-and-steel industry. One of the richest areas of manganese-bearing ores in the world is located near Nikopol. Bituminous and anthracite coal used for coke are mined in the Donets Basin. Energy for thermal power stations is obtained using the large reserves of brown coal found in the Dnieper River basin (north of Kryvyy Rih) and the bituminous coal deposits of the Lviv-Volyn basin. The coal mines of Ukraine are among the deepest in Europe. "
"The country’s heavy industries produce trucks, other automobiles, railway locomotives and freight cars, seagoing vessels, hydroelectric and thermal steam and gas turbines, and electric generators. In addition, residential and industrial construction demands hoisting and transportation equipment and other machinery for the building trades. Dozens of factories, found chiefly in Kharkiv, Odessa, Lviv, and Kherson, produce a wide range of agricultural equipment as well."
Look, Obama warned Putin. Russia will back off or Putin may end up like Assad.
maybe berrie can send a drone over there and kill an American.
What do you propose we do? Keep quiet?
Of course we're going to express public disapproval at the unilateral actions of Russia that violate the sovereignty of the Ukraine. I'm not sure what more we would do in this situation. There might be economic actions we take or under-the-table intelligence sharing, but I doubt we're going to go to bat militarily in an overt fashion.
maybe berrie can send a drone over there and kill an American.
Putin is betting Europe won't unify.
Besides NATO, which Ukraine is not a part of, the European Union is the only force capable of checking Russian aggression. The chances of that are pretty slim, and Putin knows it. The Russian military may not rival its American counterpart, but it's still a potent force to be reckoned with.
I still firmly believe that if Russia sticks to the Crimea, nothing much will happen. Even if the EU did respond, they'd likely be fired on by the citizens they were trying to protect. Putin also knows that if Europe really steps in militarily, all the natural gas supplies that power a good portion of the EU electrical grid might suddenly be turned off. I mean if he really wanted to, Putin could cripple the European energy grid nearly overnight. That might hurt Russia temporarily economically, but no doubt they can find new buyers in the East, I'm sure.
Like I said before, I'm no fan of Putin, but I think he thought this one out pretty well. It's really a win-win for him. Europe can't do much without crippling their energy grid. The United States is certainly capable of doing so (we've been dismembering Russian military equipment with ease for years), but it'd be both politically and economically disastrous for us since not only are we a bit tired of war, but Europe is also one of our largest trading partners. Russia also has an immense nuclear arsenal. That pretty much lets them do whatever they want. I wonder if that's what Putin and Obama talked about?
After this fizzles out, I [loosely] predict this will happen:
-The EU will reconsider energy independence.
-Likely military re-hardening of NATO border states (which US companies will certainly benefit from).
-This one is more far fetched, but it might shake the confidence in NATO for their inability to act (even though it's not a NATO matter, it is a European one).
Let's hope no one dies in this. I hate war.
That report originates from a blog...doh and it claims there may be 1,000 NATO troops....well doh...the Russians are Skered now.....
your dreaming....or just wanting something like that to happen...you do realize that for NATO to be talken seriously a smattering of troops will make Putin laugh...but overwhelming force of say a few hundred thousand or more..well now its a real chess game!
Ah, I had not heard that Ukraine had invoked it. Since it was not an official treaty however, I find it highly unlikely that the west finds it legally binding. (Conveniently)
Which I think without any intervention from those quasi-stating that they would defend Ukraine's sovereignty in return for giving up the nuclear weapons (and I'm not sure there really is a good response here, other than economic sanctions, which has led to war historically too...) this sad situation along with Iran/Syria/North Korea will reinforce the belief that there IS a valid reason for nations to hold onto weapons of mass destruction.
I foresee other nations feeling a higher need to possess such weapons. There is no way that the Russians invade the Ukraine if the Ukraine can retaliate in a manner that can cripple Russia and the situation would also demand more interaction and intervention from Western powers to protect the Ukraine to prevent a nuclear incident.
This agreement really only works if Russia is weak, the Russia in 1994 is far different than the Russia in 2014. I don't see us doing anything here to stop this and I think the Ukraine will have to accept the Russian aggression. Maybe I'm wrong, but I'm sure Putin sees the Russians on the upward trend and the US on the downward, this makes him harder to negotiate with I think.
Russians are really skered now!!Not to mention an unholy metric fuckton of military hardware like thousands of tanks, untold fighter jets, attack helo's, support helo's, troop carriers, etc.... We are talking about a movement of military hardware that will be noticed by the entire world very quickly and absurdly obviously.
This article makes an awful lot of sense to me..........
http://globalpublicsquare.blogs.cnn...understand-putins-ukraine-strategy/?hpt=hp_t1