Russia on brink of ... NOPE! Russia INVADES Ukraine!

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cytg111

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I've been quiet on the nuclear option cause I've been wrong a couple of times before in this thread... If Russia really is going to have their asses handed to them in the coming offensive, what options does Putin retain?
 

WelshBloke

Lifer
Jan 12, 2005
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Lukashenko is likely pretty ill. What's the odds on if he dies Putin steps in and takes over to "ensure stability"?

 

WelshBloke

Lifer
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I've been quiet on the nuclear option cause I've been wrong a couple of times before in this thread... If Russia really is going to have their asses handed to them in the coming offensive, what options does Putin retain?
I think that they realised that making a nuclear threat every week was a bad look and wasn't getting them anywhere.
Personally I think that Putin is starting to worry more about internal existential threats to his leadership rather than external ones now. All his war chiefs are bickering and trying to blame each other, that's not a good place to be when you're paranoid about someone taking over.
 

K1052

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Aug 21, 2003
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I think that they realised that making a nuclear threat every week was a bad look and wasn't getting them anywhere.
Personally I think that Putin is starting to worry more about internal existential threats to his leadership rather than external ones now. All his war chiefs are bickering and trying to blame each other, that's not a good place to be when you're paranoid about someone taking over.

The Russians were told in extremely clear terms that the use of nuclear weapons in Ukraine would absolutely result in an overwhelming military response from NATO against the Russian military. They pretty much gave up the rhetoric after that because they believed us and know we could certainly do it.
 

RnR_au

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What are the odds Luk is suffering from a form of 'Nuclear Option'?

Like maybe the window gig was getting old?
Maybe Putin has a safe Belarusian successor waiting in the wings? Better to switch out the leadership while Putin is still able to. Belarus is still extremely useful to Russia.
 

kage69

Lifer
Jul 17, 2003
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That's his son Nicholai on his right I believe. His chosen successor. I imagine Russia will make some things clear if they aren't, then have him play the role of a puppet. Skip all the hassle of time of official annexation.
 

JEDI

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Russia may have just lost four aircraft in one day:​


an Su-34 and an Su-35 – and two Mi-8 helicopters

There was also consternation among Russian bloggers that one Mi-8 helcopter shot down had advanced jamming equipment.

One Russian Telegram account said it was “complete idiocy” to send such a helicopter so close to Ukrainian defenses, saying “you had to be completely detached from reality” to send the specially-equipped Mi-8s into such a zone.
 

KMFJD

Lifer
Aug 11, 2005
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~In late January, with his mercenary forces dying by the thousands in a fight for the ruined city of Bakhmut, Wagner Group owner Yevgeniy Prigozhin made Ukraine an extraordinary offer.
Prigozhin said that if Ukraine’s commanders withdrew their soldiers from the area around Bakhmut, he would give Kyiv information on Russian troop positions, which Ukraine could use to attack them.

lol, i don't believe it but lol
 

zinfamous

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~In late January, with his mercenary forces dying by the thousands in a fight for the ruined city of Bakhmut, Wagner Group owner Yevgeniy Prigozhin made Ukraine an extraordinary offer.
Prigozhin said that if Ukraine’s commanders withdrew their soldiers from the area around Bakhmut, he would give Kyiv information on Russian troop positions, which Ukraine could use to attack them.

lol, i don't believe it but lol

it's just like dealing with the warlords in Afghanistan whose only goals were to hire the US as mercenaries to kill their rifles. Only, it appears that the Ukrainians are far wiser than the US.
 

Leeea

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Apr 3, 2020
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But it seems the Russians have responded to the Ukrainian encroachments by deploying some of their better troops to the area;
This is what Ukraine needs, to pull in the Russian reserves into this battle. I think Ukraine will continue to put pressure on to try and get Russia to put more resources into Bakhmut.


If Russia's reserve are committed in Bakhmut they will not available to stop other Ukrainian actions.
 
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