Russia on brink of ... NOPE! Russia INVADES Ukraine!

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[DHT]Osiris

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how exactly does a jet bolter(miss the cables) and continue flying foward without getting sucked into the giant fan pulling everything down? i demand a congressional oversight investigation in to this deranged contractor.

trapeze recovery is clearly the way to go.

Launch off the back, recover from the front? Or just don't miss.

That thing can also fly with one shut off so maybe they just power it down during operations.
 

Jaskalas

Lifer
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I totally don't understand the Russian propaganda about NATO invading Russia.
Think of it as a mirror. Russia is screaming about their own actions, and how they treat people.
They "know" it is going to happen to them.

It is also useful propaganda to gaslight the Russian people into obeying Kremlin slavery and turning them into meat.
It is the North Korean style of governing.
 
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WelshBloke

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Think of it as a mirror. Russia is screaming about their own actions, and how they treat people.
They "know" it is going to happen to them.

It is also useful propaganda to gaslight the Russian people into obeying Kremlin slavery and turning them into meat.
It is the North Korean style of governing.
I know that if I was given a choice between having my country run by the Russian gangsters that rule it now or a coalition of European countries I would pick the coalition of European countries without hesitation. Surely Russian citizens see that the standard of living in the West is so much better than the one given to them by Putin?!
 
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K1052

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The only thing I can tell that's getting accomplished tonight is depriving people in Kyiv of sleep and, in the coming years, a meaningful number of dead Iranian regime figures as the SBU starts assassinating people inside Iran like Israel does.
 
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rommelrommel

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I know that if I was given a choice between having my country run by the Russian gangsters that rule it now or a coalition of European countries I would pick the coalition of European countries without hesitation. Surely Russian citizens see that the standard of living in the West is so much better than the one given to them by Putin?!

They rely on the same culture war nonsense that’s used in the USA. Let them in and your kids will turn trans, dogs will lay with cats, satanists, fear fear fear.
 

K1052

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The most likely explanation is that Ukraine developed long range strike drones as they promised and has begun to use them against the Russians. This is probably just the beginning. Given the mass attacks on Ukrainian cities the last few days nobody in the west is going to say anything like Ukraine should not retaliate so it’s open season for Budanov. Ukraine’s capabilities in this area are only going to grow.
 
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Puffnstuff

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UKR should use their drones effectively and take out military infrastructure that is being used against them instead of trying to make a point.
 
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[DHT]Osiris

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UKR should use their drones effectively and take out military infrastructure that is being used against them instead of trying to make a point.
They more than likely are. At this point I'm presuming that any strikes on even perceived civilian infrastructure are false flag.
 
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K1052

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UKR should use their drones effectively and take out military infrastructure that is being used against them instead of trying to make a point.

I'm sure that's the likely intent but the strikes have psychological value and the Russians will be forced to move more air defense resources to Moscow because of that.
 

trenchfoot

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An *alleged Ukrainian drone attack on Moscow will surely cause a frantic surge of sacrificial meat volunteers lining up for many kilometers outside Putin's recruiting stations. /s
 

feralkid

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They rely on the same culture war nonsense that’s used in the USA. Let them in and your kids will turn trans, dogs will lay with cats, satanists, fear fear fear.
Absolutely true; I met locals in the Balkans that heard and even believed crap like this.
 

K1052

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Reportedly the US is going to provide AIM-7s in the next arms package but the platform for them is unspecified. While older and less sophisticated there is a large amount of these missiles that have to be closing in on disposal age so cost is minimal. Could be Mig-29s or the Buk I guess.
 
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Dave_5k

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Reportedly the US is going to provide AIM-7s in the next arms package but the platform for them is unspecified. While older and less sophisticated there is a large amount of these missiles that have to be closing in on disposal age so cost is minimal. Could be Mig-29s or the Buk I guess.
Presuming those can target Iran's flying mopeds, may be a very good use of inventory. Otherwise not too sure how much a medium range air-to-air missile is of use to Ukraine, they have basically zero air-to-air fights with Russian aircraft.
 
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Reportedly the US is going to provide AIM-7s in the next arms package but the platform for them is unspecified. While older and less sophisticated there is a large amount of these missiles that have to be closing in on disposal age so cost is minimal. Could be Mig-29s or the Buk I guess.
Close to disposal age: that's why these dollar amount aid packages are always a little sketchy when reported in the media. This equipment was already paid for years ago, and now the choice was either pay to refurbish/dispose or give it to Ukraine.
 
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biostud

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I know that if I was given a choice between having my country run by the Russian gangsters that rule it now or a coalition of European countries I would pick the coalition of European countries without hesitation. Surely Russian citizens see that the standard of living in the West is so much better than the one given to them by Putin?!
And that is why large parts of the Russian population is kept in the dark, with no access to free media, free speech, internet or be able to speak anything but Russian.
 
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biostud

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Presuming those can target Iran's flying mopeds, may be a very good use of inventory. Otherwise not too sure how much a medium range air-to-air missile is of use to Ukraine, they have basically zero air-to-air fights with Russian aircraft.
Yet....
 
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