Russia on brink of ... NOPE! Russia INVADES Ukraine!

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cytg111

Lifer
Mar 17, 2008
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People can live the way they wish you live. Why does the West need to impose its values on other people? I don't see Egypt imposing its cultural values on Western countries, for instance.

Meanwhile, the hypocrisy coming from Western corporations is off the charts:

How many Brutus can there be?
 
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WelshBloke

Lifer
Jan 12, 2005
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Sorry bud, but try winning a war against a bunch of illiterate goatherders like the Taliban before talking about beating a country with a real military like Russia. Last time I checked, not only was NATO run out of Afghanistan, but the Taliban even threatened NATO if they didn't leave on time. BTW, it was a not a 1 or 2 year war, but a 20 year with all of NATO's fancy weaponry and they still lost to a country that didn't even have a single plane or boat. How embarrassing is that?

Secondly, Russia is absolutely at war with NATO and I have to say they seem to be doing a good job of blowing up all of NATO's garbage which is why this 'counteroffensive' continues to be delayed over and over again. It's going to be utter humiliation of NATO is defeated again in another war by a single country. Imagine a coalition of 30+ countries losing a war against 1 country not once, but twice.

And I have to say I am surprised at Russia's military industrial complex. How many articles were written over the past year about how Russia was running out of insert munition here? Meanwhile Zelensky goes on a world tour trying to shake down world leaders for weapons because apparently he isn't getting enough. Always needing more more more. The only conclusion you can draw from that is Russia seems to be doing a fantastic job of blowing it all up into smithereens.

Maybe next time NATO is involved in a peace agreement, they will abide and implement it instead of doing the opposite and pumping Ukraine with weapons and provoking Russia over and over again to get a Russian/Ukraine war started because they are too chickenshit to directly take on Russia themselves. BTW, that is the real reason Ukraine never has and never will be admitted into NATO. Why take the risk of getting directly involved in a war with Russia when you can use Ukrainians as pawns instead?

And while they're at it, enough of the regime change attempts/coup attempts and stop meddling in other countries affairs. There is a reason why the rest of the world sees the US as a threat to world peace. Ukraine/Afghanistan/Iraq/Syria/Libya/Somalia/Yemen...etc. At some point you have to ask yourself why can't these warmongers leave other countries alone instead of bombing the shit out of them and launching coup attempts? It's getting old.
Ha! That's hilarious! Please carry on!

I particularly liked the bit about how you think Russia would stand a hope in hell of going toe to toe with NATO and not get obliterated in a couple of days! More of that please!
 
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RnR_au

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A brief search didn't seem to find that this story was already posted

Can't say I've really been paying attention to things, but the Wagner/Regular Army conflict/rivalry sounds like it's escalated quite a bit.

The Russian Volunteer forces that are currently in neighbouring regions captured some young Russian soldiers. The reigning governor has refused to deal with them in offering something in exchange for the young PoWs. The PoWs have now been offered to Wagner in exchange for Roman Venevitin. He is wanted in relation to war crimes.
 
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fskimospy

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Sorry bud, but try winning a war against a bunch of illiterate goatherders like the Taliban before talking about beating a country with a real military like Russia. Last time I checked, not only was NATO run out of Afghanistan, but the Taliban even threatened NATO if they didn't leave on time. BTW, it was a not a 1 or 2 year war, but a 20 year with all of NATO's fancy weaponry and they still lost to a country that didn't even have a single plane or boat. How embarrassing is that?

Secondly, Russia is absolutely at war with NATO and I have to say they seem to be doing a good job of blowing up all of NATO's garbage which is why this 'counteroffensive' continues to be delayed over and over again. It's going to be utter humiliation of NATO is defeated again in another war by a single country. Imagine a coalition of 30+ countries losing a war against 1 country not once, but twice.

And I have to say I am surprised at Russia's military industrial complex. How many articles were written over the past year about how Russia was running out of insert munition here? Meanwhile Zelensky goes on a world tour trying to shake down world leaders for weapons because apparently he isn't getting enough. Always needing more more more. The only conclusion you can draw from that is Russia seems to be doing a fantastic job of blowing it all up into smithereens.

Maybe next time NATO is involved in a peace agreement, they will abide and implement it instead of doing the opposite and pumping Ukraine with weapons and provoking Russia over and over again to get a Russian/Ukraine war started because they are too chickenshit to directly take on Russia themselves. BTW, that is the real reason Ukraine never has and never will be admitted into NATO. Why take the risk of getting directly involved in a war with Russia when you can use Ukrainians as pawns instead?

And while they're at it, enough of the regime change attempts/coup attempts and stop meddling in other countries affairs. There is a reason why the rest of the world sees the US as a threat to world peace. Ukraine/Afghanistan/Iraq/Syria/Libya/Somalia/Yemen...etc. At some point you have to ask yourself why can't these warmongers leave other countries alone instead of bombing the shit out of them and launching coup attempts? It's getting old.
This level of foaming rage from our resident tankie seems to indicate things are going well for Ukraine.
 

brycejones

Lifer
Oct 18, 2005
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Sorry bud, but try winning a war against a bunch of illiterate goatherders like the Taliban before talking about beating a country with a real military like Russia. Last time I checked, not only was NATO run out of Afghanistan, but the Taliban even threatened NATO if they didn't leave on time. BTW, it was a not a 1 or 2 year war, but a 20 year with all of NATO's fancy weaponry and they still lost to a country that didn't even have a single plane or boat. How embarrassing is that?

Secondly, Russia is absolutely at war with NATO and I have to say they seem to be doing a good job of blowing up all of NATO's garbage which is why this 'counteroffensive' continues to be delayed over and over again. It's going to be utter humiliation of NATO is defeated again in another war by a single country. Imagine a coalition of 30+ countries losing a war against 1 country not once, but twice.

And I have to say I am surprised at Russia's military industrial complex. How many articles were written over the past year about how Russia was running out of insert munition here? Meanwhile Zelensky goes on a world tour trying to shake down world leaders for weapons because apparently he isn't getting enough. Always needing more more more. The only conclusion you can draw from that is Russia seems to be doing a fantastic job of blowing it all up into smithereens.

Maybe next time NATO is involved in a peace agreement, they will abide and implement it instead of doing the opposite and pumping Ukraine with weapons and provoking Russia over and over again to get a Russian/Ukraine war started because they are too chickenshit to directly take on Russia themselves. BTW, that is the real reason Ukraine never has and never will be admitted into NATO. Why take the risk of getting directly involved in a war with Russia when you can use Ukrainians as pawns instead?

And while they're at it, enough of the regime change attempts/coup attempts and stop meddling in other countries affairs. There is a reason why the rest of the world sees the US as a threat to world peace. Ukraine/Afghanistan/Iraq/Syria/Libya/Somalia/Yemen...etc. At some point you have to ask yourself why can't these warmongers leave other countries alone instead of bombing the shit out of them and launching coup attempts? It's getting old.
LOL, this account was reactivated in rage mode.

How long has the 3 day security operation lasted? If Russia's war stocks are in such great shape and everything going according to plan why are the Russians having to pull T-55s out of storage? Was the plan to always gut the Russian army to the point where it had to use tanks that even 3rd world shit holes are retiring?
 

brycejones

Lifer
Oct 18, 2005
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Don't care about crap movies, just showing an example of Western hypocrisy. And this war could be over if the Western nations want it to be. Ukraine as a country is only holding on due to endless American money. So basically, America owns Ukraine and its government. It can push Ukraine to talks if it wants but that's not what it wants.

Some have even said that it was Boris Johnson who stopped the peace talks that Turkey was trying to broker between Ukraine-Russia.


And now China is trying to broker peace between Ukraine-Russia but the Americans and the West don't want it either.
Russia has always had the power to quickly end this conflict. They just have to stop invading their neighbor, pack their shit up and go home.

Ukraine doesn't want the "peace" that China is trying to broker. So far the only proposals publicly floated amount to a cease fire in place with Russia hanging on to the land it's illegally invaded starting in 2014. For some odd reason this outcome isn't acceptable to the Ukrainians.

Now kindly and respectfully fuck off. Your bullshit dishonesty remains utterly transparent.
 

Leeea

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Reports of Russia shelling Kherson as civilians try to organize evacuations.
Because of course the Orcs would.

Also, due to the Orcs mining everything that exists.... the water is extra dangerous today as the flood waters rise.

that is just extra horrifying.

Cleanup afterward will be do. Not only do you have to clean the mud out of your house, you need to metal detect it to just in case. Not just just houses, entire towns.

Hopefully they all will explode rather then settle in the mud.
 

Leeea

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Apr 3, 2020
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Who's winning?



(Besides the defense contractors and their stockholders?)
its a war.

Everybody loses except for the defense contractors.

That is rule 1.


The real question is, who is losing the most?

and right now it must be the Russian's. Going purely off the state of their propaganda. It is going straight into deep fantasy today. The Russian regime has to be having a very bad day today.


the Ukrainian's on the other hand have posted a request for all their media outlets not to release any information at all about the front line or military operations. Nothing, nada. So far all the pro-Ukrainian bloggers have been honoring their request, so news from the Ukrainian side has been unavailable for about two days about military operations. No news at all about the front line. So we are all running off of extremely unreliable Russian sources. Which have oscillated between we have full panic, we have murdered the entire Ukrainian army, and nothing is happening.

In other words, nobody knows.



In other news a dam collapsed. A very important dam.

The Ukrainians blame the Russians. The Russians blame the Ukrainians.


We do know the rolled earth dam in Russian occupied Ukraine had water overflowing for some time and when subject to such mismanagement said dams are subject to structural failure.
 
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Jaskalas

Lifer
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Who's winning?
Day 468 of Putin's 3 day SMO.

Everyone is losing because we won't step in to end it. Of course we are trying to handle an insane nuclear power with kid gloves. This slows down the war and leads to attrition. If you really want to know the answer, check back every year. Given that Russia's offensive power has once again stalled and they are on the defense, suggests that Russia will need another round of mobilization to continue their maximal goal of Genocide.

We will need to see how Ukraine's offensives play out and where they end up stalling in the long run, before we can conclude the outcome of this year's campaigns. Last year was wildly successful for Ukraine. Now, even Russian territory is in play and Russia will need to endure further mobilization. In an elective war where Russia's only goal is to kill their neighbor and steal their land.

The question shouldn't be "who's winning?", the question should be have we done enough to stop Russia?
And we should keep asking that question, and keep demanding that we do more... until Russia goes home.
 
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kage69

Lifer
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Fucking orcs. I can only hope the Ukrainians had more warning and were better prepared than when Stalin did the same to slow down the Nazis. The idea that the Ukrainians did it is completely absurd. There are numerous ways to stop irrigation to Crimea without endangering the lives of tens of thousands of your own civilians. A dam failure of some kind right before Ukraine is supposed to start advancing sounds too convenient. Putin needs mud and barriers between his sorry drunk fucks and the Western armor inbound, and if Ukrainian families have to drown so be it.
 
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K1052

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Fucking orcs. I can only hope the Ukrainians had more warning and were better prepared than when Stalin did the same it slow down the Nazis. The idea that the Ukrainians did it is completely absurd. There are numerous ways to stop irrigation to Crimea without endangering the lives of tens of thousands of your own civilians. A dam failure of some kind right before Ukraine is supposed to starting advancing sounds too convenient. Putin needs mud and barriers between his sorry drunk fucks and the Western armor inbound, and if Ukrainian families have to drown so be it.

My theories about what happened in order of likelihood from most to least:

1) Structural collapse brought on by severe Russian mismanagement of the dam and reservoir level.
2) Russians triggered their mines on the dam...but apparently did not inform their own defensive forces to evac.
3) Ukraine used missiles on the dam.
 
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