Russia on brink of ... NOPE! Russia INVADES Ukraine!

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K1052

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Ukraine appears to be pushing pretty hard at 4-5 spots along the front. I assume they want to see if they can achieve a breakthrough in one or two before committing the bulk of their offensive forces.
 
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Leeea

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First documented loss of a Ukrainian Leopard.

Good find.

Hopefully the crew made it.

It doesn't look bad. All the smoke looks like ammo compartment back of the turret. Remember, western design, ammo can blow / burn down and the crew and rest of tank is fine. Not seeing any hull burn down. There is a chance that tank drove away from that.

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That Leapard is not only not knocked out, it is still hunting!!:

Watched the video a couple times, at the 14 second mark the turret is rotating! It appears to be looking into the tree line.
 
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RnR_au

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It doesn't look bad. All the smoke looks like ammo compartment back of the turret. Remember, western design, ammo can blow / burn down and the crew and rest of tank is fine. Not seeing any hull burn down. There is a chance that tank drove away from that.
Found an interesting video that shows the protection available to the crew;

 
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kage69

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I'm familiar with Chinese tofu "steel," guess they have vulcanized tofu tires as well?

That kind of wear sounds faster than a snow tire left on over summer. Should be great in all the mud. Couldn't happen to nicer fuckwads. May they hold up long enough to let these orcs play catch the Excalibur football.
 

Young Grasshopper

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Fucking orcs. I can only hope the Ukrainians had more warning and were better prepared than when Stalin did the same to slow down the Nazis. The idea that the Ukrainians did it is completely absurd. There are numerous ways to stop irrigation to Crimea without endangering the lives of tens of thousands of your own civilians. A dam failure of some kind right before Ukraine is supposed to start advancing sounds too convenient. Putin needs mud and barriers between his sorry drunk fucks and the Western armor inbound, and if Ukrainian families have to drown so be it.


You're joking right? Ukraine has been preparing for war with Russia for 8 years now. Not only have they been preparing for 8 years now, they even signed a sham peace agreement with Russia back in 2015, trying to dupe them into thinking they wanted peace when in reality they wanted this war all along. Germany, Ukraine, the US and France have all confirmed this and even bragged about it. Signing a peace agreement with a nuclear armed neighbor, then trying to dupe them is a REALLY REALLY stupid idea.

Ukraine wanted this war all along, and guess what they got one and are getting slaughtered.

Here is a lecture by John Mearsheimer on the conflict back in 2015 which explains the entire history. BTW, the video has 30 million views. Enjoy:



BTW regarding the dam, it was reported back in Dec that Ukraine had already struck the dam with Himars to see if it could slow down Russian supply lines. Not only that, but the dam issue hurts Russia more than Ukraine. And lets not pretend like Ukraine doesn't like about stuff. Remember when they launched S300 missile that landed in Poland and blamed Russia? They still haven't apologized about it.
 
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Racan

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Found an interesting video that shows the protection available to the crew;

On the Leo 2 only the ammo in the turret is protected this way. The ammo stowed in the hull near the driver is unprotected and if hit can send the turret flying just like in the T-series unfortunately (unless you use modern insensitive munitions like DM63 apfsds https://ndiastorage.blob.core.usgovcloudapi.net/ndia/2007/im_em/ABriefs/8Vogelsanger.pdf).




 
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brycejones

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You're joking right? Ukraine has been preparing for war with Russia for 8 years now.
You mean since Russia started arming groups in Ukraine and invaded them? Wow its really weird that a country that had been suffering an ongoing attack from it's neighbor would like prepare for war or something.

I have to say this is one of the dumbest "points" you've attempted to make and that's saying something.
 

fskimospy

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You mean since Russia started arming groups in Ukraine and invaded them? Wow its really weird that a country that had been suffering an ongoing attack from it's neighbor would like prepare for war or something.

I have to say this is one of the dumbest "points" you've attempted to make and that's saying something.
Haha that really is next level bullshit. ‘Ever since Russia invaded them Ukraine has been preparing for war’.

Lol.
 

fskimospy

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You're joking right? Ukraine has been preparing for war with Russia for 8 years now. Not only have they been preparing for 8 years now, they even signed a sham peace agreement with Russia back in 2015, trying to dupe them into thinking they wanted peace when in reality they wanted this war all along. Germany, Ukraine, the US and France have all confirmed this and even bragged about it. Signing a peace agreement with a nuclear armed neighbor, then trying to dupe them is a REALLY REALLY stupid idea.

Ukraine wanted this war all along, and guess what they got one and are getting slaughtered.

Here is a lecture by John Mearsheimer on the conflict back in 2015 which explains the entire history. BTW, the video has 30 million views. Enjoy:



BTW regarding the dam, it was reported back in Dec that Ukraine had already struck the dam with Himars to see if it could slow down Russian supply lines. Not only that, but the dam issue hurts Russia more than Ukraine. And let’s not pretend like Ukraine doesn't like about stuff. Remember when they launched S300 missile that landed in Poland and blamed Russia? They still haven't apologized about it.
Ukraine is just engaging in peacekeeping operations to protect the citizens of the Belgorod People’s Republic from Russian attacks on them.
 

Racan

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Armoured columns are getting stuck in mine fields then get hit with artillery and ATGMs…

In theory engineering vehicles should prevent them getting stuck but in real combat that’s easier said than done.
 
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