Russia on brink of ... NOPE! Russia INVADES Ukraine!

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K1052

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Armoured columns are getting stuck in mine fields then get hit with artillery and ATGMs…

In theory engineering vehicles should prevent them getting stuck but in real combat that’s easier said than done.

This is going to take some time. More like the advance on Kherson west of the river instead of Kharkiv.
 
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Jaskalas

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This is going to take some time. More like the advance on Kherson west of the river instead of Kharkiv.
Kharkiv was completely undefended compared to the actual lines of defense that formed afterwards.
This WILL take time, there WILL be losses. Ultimate outcome will form in the days and weeks ahead.

Best we can hope for is to cut the land bridge, and blow up the actual bridge to Crimea. Then it'll be a game of attrition that can secure the southern flank.
 

K1052

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Besides a lot of air defense stuff this is the first time I've seen 203mm artillery munitions listed. We must have contracted for new production shells and charges either domestically or somewhere in Europe. Ukraine has mostly run out of their these shells but still has at least dozens of 2S7 guns that could be put back into use if resupplied.

 

Zorba

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You're joking right? Ukraine has been preparing for war with Russia for 8 years now. Not only have they been preparing for 8 years now, they even signed a sham peace agreement with Russia back in 2015, trying to dupe them into thinking they wanted peace when in reality they wanted this war all along. Germany, Ukraine, the US and France have all confirmed this and even bragged about it. Signing a peace agreement with a nuclear armed neighbor, then trying to dupe them is a REALLY REALLY stupid idea.

Ukraine wanted this war all along, and guess what they got one and are getting slaughtered.

Here is a lecture by John Mearsheimer on the conflict back in 2015 which explains the entire history. BTW, the video has 30 million views. Enjoy:



BTW regarding the dam, it was reported back in Dec that Ukraine had already struck the dam with Himars to see if it could slow down Russian supply lines. Not only that, but the dam issue hurts Russia more than Ukraine. And lets not pretend like Ukraine doesn't like about stuff. Remember when they launched S300 missile that landed in Poland and blamed Russia? They still haven't apologized about it.
"NO seriously guys, Ukraine WANTED Russia to invade them and destroy their infrastructure, rape their women, and kidnap their kids. They just MADE Russia do it, but (checks notes) never attacking Russia."

This is like the guy that claims the 10 year-old girl wanted to be raped because she looked at him.

We've been preparing for war with Russia for 80 years, and free admit it all the time, does that mean we want Russia to come invade the US? Or does it mean we want to be able to defend ourselves and our allies if they do try to attack?
 

kage69

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You're joking right? Ukraine has been preparing for war with Russia for 8 years now. Not only have they been preparing for 8 years now, they even signed a sham peace agreement with Russia back in 2015, trying to dupe them into thinking they wanted peace when in reality they wanted this war all along. Germany, Ukraine, the US and France have all confirmed this and even bragged about it. Signing a peace agreement with a nuclear armed neighbor, then trying to dupe them is a REALLY REALLY stupid idea.

Ukraine wanted this war all along, and guess what they got one and are getting slaughtered.

Here is a lecture by John Mearsheimer on the conflict back in 2015 which explains the entire history. BTW, the video has 30 million views. Enjoy:



BTW regarding the dam, it was reported back in Dec that Ukraine had already struck the dam with Himars to see if it could slow down Russian supply lines. Not only that, but the dam issue hurts Russia more than Ukraine. And lets not pretend like Ukraine doesn't like about stuff. Remember when they launched S300 missile that landed in Poland and blamed Russia? They still haven't apologized about it.


Glad I'm still hitting a nerve with you, this pleases me. Still, how fucking stupid or indoctrinated do you have to be to conflate number of views with accuracy?

You must be irritated to keep posting the same Mearsheimer bullshit again and again and again hahaha. Fail harder putz, or here's a notion - develop some self respect and stop embarrassing yourself. Either or. Your subservience to war criminals is still nauseating as shit, you're not even bothering to make up new lies. So weak, so dishonest.

Why don't you care about war crimes or genocide? Why are you such a shitty person? Why do you think repeating bullshit that's been debunked many times is going to convince anyone of your demented views?
 
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Ajay

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How fucking stupid or indoctrinated do you have to be to conflate number of views with accuracy?

You've already posted that bullshit here before and its still completely worthless. Try again moron, or develop some self respect and stop embarrassing yourself. Either or. Your subservience to war criminals is still nauseating as shit, you're not even bothering to make up new bullshit. So weak.
I haven’t put him on ignore because reading his stuff in this thread amounts to comedy 🤪
 

kage69

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Floodwater levels starting to fall in Kherson.


Good to hear but still going to be weeks maybe months before water levels aren't an issue. Putin also has another dam to the north he can blow up, and he probably will, though it's not as big thankfully. I expect they will try and blame that on the Ukrainians as well.

Putin wants to follow through on his 'if we can't have it no one will' position for the south and Crimea. Poisoning Ukraine (and the Black Sea) with an ecological disaster will do the job. I feel like the West should re evaluate/boost existing support. Do something big that will make Putin and his orcs weep, be clear it's because of Russian war crimes. Screw F-16s, PrSM has entered the chat
 

repoman0

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Glad I'm still hitting a nerve with you, this pleases me. Still, how fucking stupid or indoctrinated do you have to be to conflate number of views with accuracy?
The same level of fucking stupid to quote a discussion with ChatGPT that he began with a leading question as evidence supporting a point, as happened earlier in this thread. That guy is one of the dumbest motherfuckers on the face of this planet — either that or a Russian bot.
 

K1052

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I feel like the West should re evaluate/boost existing support. Do something big that will make Putin and his orcs weep, be clear it's because of Russian war crimes. Screw F-16s, PrSM has entered the chat

For more immediate effect I'd suggest tens of thousands of M864 DPICM shells with PGKs to soften Russian defenses. Just blow the absolute fuck out of every single trench in the line of advance.
 
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Racan

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For more immediate effect I'd suggest tens of thousands of M864 DPICM shells with PGKs to soften Russian defenses. Just blow the absolute fuck out of every single trench in the line of advance.
DPICM should have been sent a long time ago. They'd also make counterbattery fire more effective.
 
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kage69

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For more immediate effect I'd suggest tens of thousands of M864 DPICM shells with PGKs to soften Russian defenses. Just blow the absolute fuck out of every single trench in the line of advance.

At this point I want tens of thousands of everything sent. But yeah definitely, M483 too, heard the Ukrainians love it. PrSM would put them back in HIMARS hell though. Would be great to see the Ukrainians suddenly whip out multiple coordinated strikes with >500km of reach and make the Russians have to reorganize a lot of their supply lines and command nodes again - during a counter offensive. Shit'em right up.

Wouldn't mind seeing the Ukrainians get a lot of those ATVs with the quad APKWS launchers, also Avenger AD units. Mobility and recon, able to handle drones, to augment the armor they have now.
 

Leeea

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Young Grasshopper

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You mean since Russia started arming groups in Ukraine and invaded them? Wow its really weird that a country that had been suffering an ongoing attack from it's neighbor would like prepare for war or something.

I have to say this is one of the dumbest "points" you've attempted to make and that's saying something.


They armed those groups because the president they voted for was coup'd by the CIA and those Ukrainians rejected it, which led to a civil war because eastern Ukraine and the Kiev regime. How would you like if if the president you voted for was toppled by a Russian funded coup and the new president was a Russian puppet? I'm guessing you wouldn't like it very much.

Hilarious that we go around the world spreading 'democracy' while in bed with Saudi Arabia and funding coup attempts all over the world to topple leaders who won't follow order, you know like Saddam Hussein, Gaddafi, etc...They tried toppling Maduro at least 3 times. Remember when the establishment tried propping up that clown Juan Guiado as the real president of Venezuela?

My idea of democracy isn't overthrowing leaders of other countries, then picking out the next president for that country. Do I need to post the Victoria Nuland call again to bring you up to speed?
 
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Young Grasshopper

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Glad I'm still hitting a nerve with you, this pleases me. Still, how fucking stupid or indoctrinated do you have to be to conflate number of views with accuracy?

You must be irritated to keep posting the same Mearsheimer bullshit again and again and again hahaha. Fail harder putz, or here's a notion - develop some self respect and stop embarrassing yourself. Either or. Your subservience to war criminals is still nauseating as shit, you're not even bothering to make up new lies. So weak, so dishonest.

Why don't you care about war crimes or genocide? Why are you such a shitty person? Why do you think repeating bullshit that's been debunked many times is going to convince anyone of your demented views?


Debunked many times? He made a prediction 8 years ago, and that prediction has come true. That is literally the opposite of debunking bud, and that's why it has 30 million views.

How many views does your video have on the Ukraine/Russian crisis? Oh right, none.

But keep posting those tweets from CIA funded bot accounts. That's some real geopolitical analysis right there.

BTW, Mearsheimer recently did another lecture on the current events with the war and more importantly, his opinion on how the war will end:


And here is a summarized version of it in case you don't have the time to watch the entire thing:


Spoiler: It's not going to end well for Ukraine.
 
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itsmydamnation

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Debunked many times? He made a prediction 8 years ago, and that prediction has come true. That is literally the opposite of debunking bud, and that's why it has 30 million views.

How many views does your video have on the Ukraine/Russian crisis? Oh right, none.

But keep posting those tweets from CIA funded bot accounts. That's some real geopolitical analysis right there.

BTW, Mearsheimer recently did another lecture on the current events with the war and more importantly, his opinion on how the war will end:


And here is a summarized version of it in case you don't have the time to watch the entire thing:


Spoiler: It's not going to end well for Ukraine.

Why aren't you on the front lines then little bitch ?
To busy doing what you do best...... You know uncles ?
 

Ajay

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My idea of democracy isn't overthrowing leaders of other countries, then picking out the next president for that country.
Wow, you must be really pissed off then that Russia is trying to overthrow the elected government of Ukraine by force of arms! I mean, it’s totally their right by internationally agreed on precepts to invade Ukraine, and in particular, to bomb civilian targets of little to no strategic value. God speed to your Russian hero’s.

Oh, do we also need to recount for you the atrocities committed by Russian forces in Syria against civilian targets? It's almost like Putin and friends get a kick out of murdering innocent people. Oh wait….
 
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