A bit early in the day to be drinking this much isn't it?Russia is going to examine all those captured Bradley and Leapord 2 tanks and see what they are dealing with. What a bozo move to dump these weapons on Ukraine but that's normal in the West. Dumb decision after dumb decision.
The Ukrainians are used to Soviet weapons, Soviet style of fighting and Soviet tactics. You cannot dump Western weapons, many of them old and maybe not in the best condition, and expect Ukrainians to learn to use them after a few weeks or even months. It takes years and years of constant training with many units to learn these things. Especially since these Western weapons require a lot of regular maintenance in the field. You are basically going to destroy these weapons in many ways - either through poor use due to very short training time, or through lack of maintenance or simply because the Ukrainians don't know how to use them effectively in coordination with other units. You cannot hand over a very complex weapon like that and expect the Ukrainians to use it effectively, pure and simple.
We are not even talking about the overwhelming Russian firepower here. It is ridiculous that the West is dumping what few weapons they have on Ukraine and then expecting the poor Ukrainians to effectively use those weapons. It is out of pure desperation it seems like. Also remember that the Western military industrial base is very small now and cannot produce weapons in large amounts. So the weapons that are sent to Ukraine might be it for a while, especially the European ones. But Portugal can pat itself on the back that its three Leapords are going to turn the tide.
This is a artillery war in many ways and the Russians and Ukrainians have a similar way of fighting - large scale artillery attacks. The Western supplied shells have been drained by the Ukrainians because they use so much of them! I think even the NATO guys were telling the Ukrainians to slow it down. The West cannot compete in this arena.
The rock he's been living under makes more convincing posts.I'm not sure how you can be so wrong in every post. Fairly remarkable actually.
Yep, we've been exposed as needing to do some investment in manufacturing so we can produce more when we need it. Better to find out now during this war than in a much larger war. Doesn't mean we walk away from supporting Ukraine.This is a artillery war in many ways and the Russians and Ukrainians have a similar way of fighting - large scale artillery attacks. The Western supplied shells have been drained by the Ukrainians because they use so much of them! I think even the NATO guys were telling the Ukrainians to slow it down. The West cannot compete in this arena. The Russians and Ukrainians fight differently, the West doesn't realize this. You cannot compete with Russia on artillery no matter where you beg for shells from.
I am not making this up.
What Ammunition Shortages Mean for the War in Ukraine
Ukraine is using far more ammo than the West produces. Here's why allies are worried.time.com
Western media forced to acknowledge that Russia is stronger now due to learned lessons and a huge industrial base that can produce a lot of weapons. Remember the fake news about Russians not having enough ammo or other weaponry? Pure nonsense. It is the Ukrainians who have been completely depleted and are now at the mercy of their Western overlords to dump old weapons on them.
Russia might be stronger now?!
Russia's improved weaponry and tactics pose challenges to Ukraine's counteroffensive
The changing Russian tactics along with increased troop numbers and improved weaponry could make it challenging for Ukraine to score any kind of quick decisive victory, threatening to turn it into a long battle of attrition.www.pbs.org
You cannot dump a weapon in isolation on a country and expect that country to suddenly emerge as the victor. One weapon won't change things much. Now if NATO troops were to go in to Ukraine? Different story but I think NATO knows they are not ready to do that.
Why should Slavic cousins fight each other? It is terrible. War needs to be ended immediately.Yep, we've been exposed as needing to do some investment in manufacturing so we can produce more when we need it. Better to find out now during this war than in a much larger war. Doesn't mean we walk away from supporting Ukraine.
Be honest the only reason you're concerned about the war stocks of western countries is because you're really only concerned about enabling Russia in it's war of aggression against Ukraine.
In short Putin needs your ass to report for duty. Stop being a coward and go where he needs you.
But can you dispute him or attacking people the only way? Seems like Orban loves his country very much. Maybe a nationalist but at least he is trying to keep his country from falling apart.Orban is every bit the evil Dictator Silly Putty is.
That would be great. It's now time for the Western backers of Ukraine to push Ukraine to negotiate peace. We know the poor Ukrainians have no power in this. The West literally owns their country now.The war can end when Russia goes back it its own territory and ceases hostilities against the sovereign state of Ukraine.
That would be great. It's now time for the Western backers of Ukraine to push Ukraine to negotiate peace. We know the poor Ukrainians have no power in this. The West literally owns their country now.
China is trying to bring both parties together. Turkey was trying to bring both parties together until Boris said no. It seems like the only people who don't want this war to end are the Western neocons.
China has a great track record recently to bringing two opposing sides together. The brought the Iranians and the Saudis together for a more peaceful Middle East (I'm sure the Americans hated that).
You can just feel the panic and desperation oozing out of this post.Russia is going to examine all those captured Bradley and Leapord 2 tanks and see what they are dealing with. What a bozo move to dump these weapons on Ukraine but that's normal in the West. Dumb decision after dumb decision.
The Ukrainians are used to Soviet weapons, Soviet style of fighting and Soviet tactics. You cannot dump Western weapons, many of them old and maybe not in the best condition, and expect Ukrainians to learn to use them after a few weeks or even months. It takes years and years of constant training with many units to learn these things. Especially since these Western weapons require a lot of regular maintenance in the field. You are basically going to destroy these weapons in many ways - either through poor use due to very short training time, or through lack of maintenance or simply because the Ukrainians don't know how to use them effectively in coordination with other units. You cannot hand over a very complex weapon like that and expect the Ukrainians to use it effectively, pure and simple.
We are not even talking about the overwhelming Russian firepower here. It is ridiculous that the West is dumping what few weapons they have on Ukraine and then expecting the poor Ukrainians to effectively use those weapons. It is out of pure desperation it seems like. Also remember that the Western military industrial base is very small now and cannot produce weapons in large amounts. So the weapons that are sent to Ukraine might be it for a while, especially the European ones. But Portugal can pat itself on the back that its three Leapords are going to turn the tide.
Democracies the world over have their own version of Trump.
They who would reward Genocide. Mark them.
Putin-licking traitors, one election away.
Russia will give up its gains when it realizes it can’t sustain them anymore, like when Russia was routed in Kherson and Kharkiv.Why would Russia give up its gains? That doesn't even make sense. And when you send more weapons to Ukraine, who do you suppose will use them to fight Russia? Certainly not Western soldiers. It'll be more Ukrainians being sent and more destruction upon the country.
A side that has made territorial gains will be very hesitant to give up those gains, especially in a proxy war like this.
So what would you say are the benefits to living under a dictatorship?One of the very few good leaders of Europe, Victor Orban, says that Ukraine cannot win. He is under attack for being honest and telling it like it is. Why must poor Ukrainians suffer so the West can wage proxy war against Russia? Of course the Western war hawks don't like truth.
Hungary’s Orban says ‘poor Ukrainians’ cannot win against Russia
Orban addresses a forum in Qatar, saying peace can only be achieved through diplomacy.www.aljazeera.com