Russia on brink of ... NOPE! Russia INVADES Ukraine!

[Leeea]

And all these bombs and Western depleted uranium cannot be good for Ukrainian soil in any shape or form. Ukraine has suffered enough.

You know what is really bad for Ukrainian farmland?
https://www.npr.org/2022/05/06/1096481280/ukraine-agriculture-farms-russia-war

Insight: Soils of war: The toxic legacy for Ukraine's breadbasket

When Ukraine recaptured Kherson in November, Andrii Povod returned to find his grain farm in ruins. Two tractors were missing, most of the wheat was gone and all 11 buildings used to store crops and machinery had been bombed and burned.

www.reuters.com

The cruel, sadistic, and evil invasion by Russia.

If you really cared about Ukrainian farmland you would call for the immediate withdrawal of all Russian military forces from Ukraine.


The Russia regime is nothing more then a mafia blight upon this world, that spreads pollution, suffering, and death everywhere it administers.

 

[Leeea]

I am not part of the negotiating team so I don't know what the final terms will be. But both sides have to stop fighting immediately. No more Ukrainian or Russian lives lost.

The only way Ukraine will ever see freedom with the pollution, enslavement, and cruelty of the Russian mafia state is if Ukraine murders every last Russian fascist on Ukrainian soil.


Any "ceasefire" is nothing more the capitulation to genocide. What the Russian's call a "ceasefire" is really just carte blanche to go door to door and exterminate the civilian population.

 

[fskimospy]

The only way Ukraine will ever see freedom with the pollution, enslavement, and cruelty of the Russian mafia state is if Ukraine murders every last Russian fascist on Ukrainian soil.


Any "ceasefire" is nothing more the capitulation to genocide. What the Russian's call a "ceasefire" is really just carte blanche to go door to door and exterminate the civilian population.

And any cease fire will be used by Russia to rebuild its decimated army and attack again. They need to be decisively beaten.

 

[raildogg]

The only way Ukraine will ever see freedom with the pollution, enslavement, and cruelty of the Russian mafia state is if Ukraine murders every last Russian fascist on Ukrainian soil.


Any "ceasefire" is nothing more the capitulation to genocide. What the Russian's call a "ceasefire" is really just carte blanche to go door to door and exterminate the civilian population.

How do you suppose that will happen? How many Ukrainian men are going to fight? How many millions have already fled?

The only way for the Ukrainians to drive all Russians out of Ukraine without some sort of negotiation is if NATO/America gets involved.

 

[raildogg]

And any cease fire will be used by Russia to rebuild its decimated army and attack again. They need to be decisively beaten.

Once again, you need a very large force and large amounts of armor and air force and artillery. Ukraine has none of these things. The Western equipment is not sustainable. Even the UK and German armies are suffering shortages of equipment so how can they arm Ukraine. And America is too busy poking its nose in China's affairs to fight two fronts.

 

[raildogg]

Ukrainian fighter pilots who are used to flying Migs and other Soviet aircraft will now be sharpshooter F-16 pilots?
C'mon man!

I flew in an F-16 with the Air Force and oh boy did it go poorly

The Thunderbirds took Popular Science's Rob Verger for a ride in an F-16. Turns out, he's no Maverick.

www.popsci.com

It'll take them years to first unlearn all their prior training on very different Soviet jets and then to learn the F-16s.

 

[fskimospy]

Once again, you need a very large force and large amounts of armor and air force and artillery. Ukraine has none of these things. The Western equipment is not sustainable. Even the UK and German armies are suffering shortages of equipment so how can they arm Ukraine. And America is too busy poking its nose in China's affairs to fight two fronts.

The copium here is strong. Russia has an economy the size of Italy. It’s a backwards, poor country and their corruption is squandering the few resources they have.

It has been instructive to see just how sorry the state of the Russian military is. The west believed the Russian propaganda about its army and it turns out it’s a joke.

 

[Perknose]

Russia is going to examine all those captured Bradley and Leapord 2 tanks and see what they are dealing with. What a bozo move to dump these weapons on Ukraine but that's normal in the West. Dumb decision after dumb decision.

The Ukrainians are used to Soviet weapons, Soviet style of fighting and Soviet tactics. You cannot dump Western weapons, many of them old and maybe not in the best condition, and expect Ukrainians to learn to use them after a few weeks or even months. It takes years and years of constant training with many units to learn these things. Especially since these Western weapons require a lot of regular maintenance in the field. You are basically going to destroy these weapons in many ways - either through poor use due to very short training time, or through lack of maintenance or simply because the Ukrainians don't know how to use them effectively in coordination with other units. You cannot hand over a very complex weapon like that and expect the Ukrainians to use it effectively, pure and simple.

We are not even talking about the overwhelming Russian firepower here. It is ridiculous that the West is dumping what few weapons they have on Ukraine and then expecting the poor Ukrainians to effectively use those weapons. It is out of pure desperation it seems like. Also remember that the Western military industrial base is very small now and cannot produce weapons in large amounts. So the weapons that are sent to Ukraine might be it for a while, especially the European ones. But Portugal can pat itself on the back that its three Leapords are going to turn the tide.

It must take all your effort to be so out of touch with reality. #Sad

 

[fskimospy]

Ukrainian fighter pilots who are used to flying Migs and other Soviet aircraft will now be sharpshooter F-16 pilots?
C'mon man!

I flew in an F-16 with the Air Force and oh boy did it go poorly

The Thunderbirds took Popular Science's Rob Verger for a ride in an F-16. Turns out, he's no Maverick.

www.popsci.com

It'll take them years to first unlearn all their prior training on very different Soviet jets and then to learn the F-16s.

What expertise is this based on?

 

[Perknose]

I am not part of the negotiating team...

Right! Sorry! You're from the Propaganda Dept.

 

[raildogg]

The copium here is strong. Russia has an economy the size of Italy. It’s a backwards, poor country and their corruption is squandering the few resources they have.

It has been instructive to see just how sorry the state of the Russian military is. The west believed the Russian propaganda about its army and it turns out it’s a joke.

And yet it is taking on the Western military machine and the most severe sanctions imposed on a country and doing OK. And really, if Russia wanted to out Ukraine they could have. They are only using a portion of their military here and not even using a fraction of their huge air force. Maybe their goal is not to cause huge civilian losses unlike America which literally killed millions in Iraq and Afghanistan.

 

[raildogg]

What expertise is this based on?

Read the article and do some research. A military used to fighting a certain way using certain weapons cannot be adept at different weapons in a short period of time. Can they fly the F-16s? Probably. Can they fly them really well? Unlikely without a long time of training, especially since they were more likely former Soviet fighter jet pilots.

 

[Drach]

And yet it is taking on the Western military machine and the most severe sanctions imposed on a country and doing OK. And really, if Russia wanted to out Ukraine they could have. They are only using a portion of their military here and not even using a fraction of their huge air force.

The fact is right now YOUR countrymen are starting to turn on Putin and it's a beautiful thing. No win for anyone at this point or ever. This has been a disaster for everyone.
I hope you understand the west has a ironclad resolve. We will not allow this behavior to continue.

 

[fskimospy]

And yet it is taking on the Western military machine and the most severe sanctions imposed on a country and doing OK. And really, if Russia wanted to out Ukraine they could have. They are only using a portion of their military here and not even using a fraction of their huge air force.

Lol you are living in a fantasy world. The west has given Ukraine their castoffs which are still vastly superior to what Russia has.

lol - are you guys still huffing the copium where you think Russia has a secret ‘actually good’ army they aren’t using? Hahaha. Russia is at maximum effort here, they are pulling people out of prisons because they can’t find enough troops. They are dragging ancient museum piece tanks out of storage because they are running out of equipment.

Russia is losing to our scraps and castoffs. Again you should be very happy that the US doesn’t want to involve itself directly because the Russian army would cease to exist.

 

[fskimospy]

Read the article and do some research. A military used to fighting a certain way using certain weapons cannot be adept at different weapons in a short period of time. Can they fly the F-16s? Probably. Can they fly them really well? Unlikely without a long time of training, especially since they were more likely former Soviet fighter jet pilots.

So an article by someone who isn’t a fighter pilot. Lol.

Thank you for confirming your statement was based on zero expertise.

 

[raildogg]

The fact is right now YOUR countrymen are starting to turn on Putin and it's a beautiful thing. No win for anyone at this point or ever. This has been a disaster for everyone.
I hope you understand the west has a ironclad resolve.

I doubt that very much. A change in leadership in Germany or America and the West's resolve will be over. Scholz and his punk foreign minister are not that popular these days it seems. And the dancer from Finland lost recently too.

 

[Brovane]

Read the article and do some research. A military used to fighting a certain way using certain weapons cannot be adept at different weapons in a short period of time. Can they fly the F-16s? Probably. Can they fly them really well? Unlikely without a long time of training, especially since they were more likely former Soviet fighter jet pilots.

So far in this war, the Ukrainians have showed us that we shouldn't underestimate their ability to adapt and use western military equipment to kill the Orc invaders.

 

[JTsyo]

Must be a slow news day for so many of you to engage with raildogg... nearly 2 pages worth.

Guess he's a first class troll. Pushing all the right buttons even if it makes no sense.

 

[raildogg]

So an article by someone who isn’t a fighter pilot. Lol.

Thank you for confirming your statement was based on zero expertise.

Can you at least acknowledge that it might be a little bit possible? These are humans we are dealing with, who are used to certain systems. It takes time to change.

 

[fskimospy]

Can you at least acknowledge that it might be a little bit possible? These are humans we are dealing with, who are used to certain systems. It takes time to change.

I’m saying you have zero knowledge or expertise here so your opinion on what it takes is irrelevant. You say these things because you’re trying to feel better, which is weird considering you’re siding with the aggressor while claiming to hate war.

 

[raildogg]

This unprofessional German foreign minister reveals the quite part out loud. How did these people get into power? Such incompetency.

 

[raildogg]

I’m saying you have zero knowledge or expertise here so your opinion on what it takes is irrelevant. You say these things because you’re trying to feel better, which is weird considering you’re siding with the aggressor while claiming to hate war.

Getting them off the ground is the easy part. Using them effectively as part of a unit and coordinating them is a different story. I don't side with anyone to be honest. I don't want this war to continue. I feel for the Ukrainians.

 

[raildogg]

So far in this war, the Ukrainians have showed us that we shouldn't underestimate their ability to adapt and use western military equipment to kill the Orc invaders.

So far the so-called spring offensive is not going all that great despite the Western weapons. And we know once Ukraine losses these tanks there might not be many more come.

The Ukrainians are brave fighters but that doesn't mean that the war should go on.

 

[Drach]

I feel for the Ukrainians.

As I honestly feel for the Russians. Russians just need to leave and this will be over.

 

[raildogg]

As I honestly feel for the Russians. Russians just need to leave and this will be over.

True, we need to begin a dialogue first and then negotiations. Declare ceasefire and come to the table. One side cannot dictate to the other. Treat each other as equals.