If there was a completely guaranteed conventional war between Russia and NATO, NATO would shit on Russia and make Russia wipe.
Refresh my memory . . . how did the Russian army do in Afghanistan?Taliban marks "Victory Day" a year after taking over Afghanistan
While many Afghans have little to celebrate, the country's Taliban rulers were happy to show off their control of Kabul's streets.www.cbsnews.com
How did this ‘conventional’ war work out for NATO? Try winning a war first against goat herders before talking tough, champ.
What happened when the soviets invaded Afghanistan? What happened with Russia's 1994-96 war in Chechnya?How did this ‘conventional’ war work out for NATO? Try winning a war first against goat herders before talking tough, champ.
Refresh my memory . . . how did the Russian army do in Afghanistan?
Yo, why is Russia still in Ukraine? Like, they haven't even hit the counterinsurgency phase. The Ukrainian state is still in control, its military is still capable of large-scale operations and even its air force flies sorties. The US and soviets ran into the same issue standing armies have against insurgencies for centuries, but Russia hasn't even got this far.The Soviets(one country) lost a 10 year war against the Afgans...
Refresh my memory, how many countries are in NATO? 30+ and still couldn't defeat an army using Soviet era weapons?
Secondly, I am not the one boasting about how great the Russian military is. They have their faults like every other military. Though I hear many in this thread boasting about how strong NATO is. A coalition of 30+ countries with F35's, AC130's, throwing every 'modern' weaponry they got and still got chased out after 20 years....
Like I said, there is a reason Biden repeatedly says 'We don't want war with Russia'. He don't want the smoke with Putin.
Things that make you go hmmm....
Maybe because unlike Russia, they actually don't carpet bomb civilians?The Soviets(one country) lost a 10 year war against the Afgans...
Refresh my memory, how many countries are in NATO? 30+ and still couldn't defeat an army using Soviet era weapons?
Secondly, I am not the one boasting about how great the Russian military is. They have their faults like every other military. Though I hear many in this thread boasting about how strong NATO is. A coalition of 30+ countries with F35's, AC130's, throwing every 'modern' weaponry they got and still got chased out after 20 years....
Like I said, there is a reason Biden repeatedly says 'We don't want war with Russia'. He don't want the smoke with Putin.
Things that make you go hmmm....
Putin Sent Wagner to Belarus to Prepare Attack on Poland: Russian Lawmaker
Wagner Group forces could take a key Polish region "in a matter of hours," MP Andrey Kartapolov recently alleged.
Yay? Nay?
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My understanding is that the Poles want nothing to do with Kaliningrad as it is "a dump" and filled with Russians who they do not want anything to do with. Maybe if they made them all return to territorial Russia as a result of such an attempt.
They won the military war. They lost the 'hearts and minds' war.A coalition of 30+ countries with F35's, AC130's, throwing every 'modern' weaponry they got and still got chased out after 20 years....
Lol, fuck off.And stop being an ass.
I dont think P is worried about the prospect of a conventional war with Nato. He is well aware that could devolve into a nuke conflict, which he knows Nato would not risk. Sure he would be wiped out pretty quick either way, but he is well aware Nato cares more about its civilians than Russia cares about theirs and that gives him a certain amount of leverage.Putin is terrified of NATO. And he’s demonstrated they can’t stand up to decades old weaponry. Not a chance in hell they want to face up to date technology head on and full force. Zero
How did this ‘conventional’ war work out for NATO? Try winning a war first against goat herders before talking tough, champ.
How did this ‘conventional’ war work out for NATO? Try winning a war first against goat herders before talking tough, champ.
another lame comment by the Russians given they have already used cluster bombs in Ukraine:
Guess it is another indication he has alzheimer.
Russia will use cluster bombs in Ukraine if it has to, Putin says
The Russian president said he “reserved the right to take reciprocal action” if Ukraine's new U.S.-provided weapons are deployed against his forces.www.nbcnews.com
They won the military war. They lost the 'hearts and minds' war.
Don't try to reframe the Afghan war as something that is directly comparable to the Ukrainian war. This is straight out a conventional war where noone has to win the hearts and minds of the Ukrainians. But it sure sounds like that Putin has lost the hearts and minds of good chunk of his administration
The U.S. military kicked their fucking asses. Meanwhile, Russia's adventure into Afghanistan resulted in them havinge their own asses served to them on a plate and they ate it.
And yet still, if there was a completely guaranteed conventional war between Russia and NATO, NATO would shit on Russia and make Russia wipe. In addition, America would make Russia pay for the toilet paper.
Russia is understandably terrified by this, which is why they are threatening nuclear retaliation. That isn't something you do if you are confident in your conventional victory. Unless you are stupid. Maybe that's your point: Russia is stupid. I'm with you on that. Champ.