Russia on brink of ... NOPE! Russia INVADES Ukraine!

[Leeea]

Woah. Drone attack on Moscow International Business Center.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1685487038521393152

to be clear, this was the property of the Russian government used as part of the defense industrial base

Which makes this very confusing, as this could be:
1. false flag attack (remember, this is how Putin launched* the 2nd Chechnya war)
2. misdirected Ukrainian drone ( Russia likes to ew jam drones and redirect them at 90 or 180 degrees from their target )
3. the actual target of a Ukrainian drone

It is Russia, so we will never know.


*https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_Russian_apartment_bombings

 

[biostud]

As soon as nuclear weapons was moved into Belarus, it was pretty obvious that they somehow where going to be involved.

 

[Jaskalas]

Behind the Lines: Russia’s Ethnic Cleansing

• Russian forces are squeezing out locals and resettling Russian citizens in Ukraine’s occupied territories.
• The shift in population is happening so fast that, 80% of Mariupol's population will be Russian within five years

See, that's how you win an insurgency. You simply eliminate the locals. Completely.
All these experts pretending Russia would struggle to keep the peace after Genocide, clearly don't know what Genocide is.
The US's failures to overcome insurgencies is not comparable because we did not use the effective method.

 

[zinfamous]

Behind the Lines: Russia’s Ethnic Cleansing

• Russian forces are squeezing out locals and resettling Russian citizens in Ukraine’s occupied territories.
• The shift in population is happening so fast that, 80% of Mariupol's population will be Russian within five years

See, that's how you win an insurgency. You simply eliminate the locals. Completely.
All these experts pretending Russia would struggle to keep the peace after Genocide, clearly don't know what Genocide is.
The US's failures to overcome insurgencies is not comparable because we did not use the effective method.

This is what they always do. This is why you have to wipe out all Russians ASAP, once they start getting anywhere near you. They simply won't stop.

NATO should remove all restrictions yesterday and send Ukraine everything. Let them turn the Russian forces into a cauldron of fire. Every Russian citizen displaced by their own nation into Ukraine is now an enemy combatant. Ukraine should have no more concern about the targets they are hitting within their own territory.

 

[Brovane]

Recent Article from NYT's on SpaceX's Starlink in Ukraine.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/07/28/business/starlink.html#commentsContainer

https://archive.is/whhJQ#selection-2125.20-2129.104

 

[K1052]

Recent Article from NYT's on SpaceX's Starlink in Ukraine.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/07/28/business/starlink.html#commentsContainer

https://archive.is/whhJQ#selection-2125.20-2129.104

Relatively predictable that Musk can say no to Ukraine but can't say no to the Pentagon regarding the use of Starlink for military purposes that they don't get a veto on. So if Ukraine wants to put the terminals on drones or whatever they just need to get them from DC.

 

[you2]

Relatively predictable that Musk can say no to Ukraine but can't say no to the Pentagon regarding the use of Starlink for military purposes that they don't get a veto on. So if Ukraine wants to put the terminals on drones or whatever they just need to get them from DC.

Predictable but unfortunate. Mr. Musk companies have great idea but he is an ass in more ways than one.

 

[Brovane]

Relatively predictable that Musk can say no to Ukraine but can't say no to the Pentagon regarding the use of Starlink for military purposes that they don't get a veto on. So if Ukraine wants to put the terminals on drones or whatever they just need to get them from DC.

Pentagon brought a contract to sign with money. SpaceX is like any other defense contract, those who bring the money set the rules. Shotwell might have had a harsh conversation with Musk and basically told him, if you continue to want Pentagon money then STFU and let the adults manage this.

 

[K1052]

Pentagon brought a contract to sign with money. SpaceX is like any other defense contract, those who bring the money set the rules. Shotwell might have had a harsh conversation with Musk and basically told him, if you continue to want Pentagon money then STFU and let the adults manage this.

Yeah and considering the government is already a giant SpaceX customer if they want to keep them then no telling them what they can and can't do with the equipment and services they are buying. Like if Elon started peeking up the skirts of the national security payloads SpaceX is launching and decided not to send one up because he didn't like it for whatever reason. Not going to work.

 

[zinfamous]

Yeah and considering the government is already a giant SpaceX customer if they want to keep them then no telling them what they can and can't do with the equipment and services they are buying. Like if Elon started peeking up the skirts of the national security payloads SpaceX is launching and decided not to send one up because he didn't like it for whatever reason. Not going to work.

Always important to remind Elmo that he only exists because of US government handouts and contracts.

Now, almost time to declare the propaganda machine Twatter a threat to national security and shut it down.

 

[Leeea]

western hardware appearing in Ukraine ...

https://nitter.net/bayraktar_1love/status/1685613408693972992

 

[cytg111]

And we're back to nuclear...

What do you do with a rabid dog?

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/07/31/europe/medvedev-russia-nuclear-weapons-intl-hnk/index.html

 

[KMFJD]

looks like the bridge was hit again and is gone now

 

[Leeea]

to be clear, this was the property of the Russian government used as part of the defense industrial base

Which makes this very confusing, as this could be:
1. false flag attack (remember, this is how Putin launched* the 2nd Chechnya war)
2. misdirected Ukrainian drone ( Russia likes to ew jam drones and redirect them at 90 or 180 degrees from their target )
3. the actual target of a Ukrainian drone

It is Russia, so we will never know.


*https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_Russian_apartment_bombings

There is a weird side claim to this incident:

It is claimed the ministry of economic development office that was struck by this drone apparently had a permanent Federal Protective Service Guard detail assigned to it:

https://nitter.net/igorsushko/status/1685492661430755328

I cannot tell if the level of truth to his claim, but other sources do report multiple government offices in the building:
https://news.yahoo.com/media-russian-ministries-located-moscow-094432523.html

 

[Jaskalas]

And we're back to nuclear...
What do you do with a rabid dog?

Humans cannot be trusted with nuclear weapons.
Any nation that wants proliferation, only increases the odds of nuclear winter.
This question applies to countries like Iran and if you want to keep increasing the odds or not.

For Russia it is already far too late, and if they want to threaten the world with choosing between allowing Genocide or facing death....
The only correct answer is nuclear brinkmanship. We cannot allow Genocide, no matter the cost. We cannot allow nuclear weapons to be used as a shield for aggression. Russia must be met with our own nuclear threats.

 

[K1052]

And we're back to nuclear...

What do you do with a rabid dog?

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/07/31/europe/medvedev-russia-nuclear-weapons-intl-hnk/index.html

Dmitry crawls out of his bottle every couple days to threaten nuclear war. No attention need be paid.

 

[K1052]

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looks like the bridge was hit again and is gone now

The rail bridge not looking so hot. We'll see if they bother repairing it since doing rail-truck transfer is becoming increasingly untenable in Crimea and points north. Reportedly they are using amphibious ships to transport trucks across the Kerch straight...which is going to have quite a few problems of its own.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1686009909018583040

 

[JEDI]

The body of a Russian soldier outside a village in Ukraine. (Tyler Hicks/The New York Times)

from today's NY Times article.
What happened to his bones?

 

[balloonshark]

How about a heads up warning and spoiler tags for the above post please.

 

[UNCjigga]

Damn, he looks like one of those cartoon guys caught under a steamroller.

 

[Ajay]

The body of a Russian soldier outside a village in Ukraine. (Tyler Hicks/The New York Times)

from today's NY Times article.
What happened to his bones?

And a link. Maybe the articles has something to say about that. Anyway, run over by a bunch of heavy vehicles. Horrible - but that's war.

 

[Ajay]

Hmm, unless Russia's rail engineers and workers are as incompetent as the military, I don't think this is a huge problem:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1686009909018583040

Oh for crying out loud - a blown up rail segment is sensitive media??!

EDIT: lol - same post as @K1052 . Derp!

 

[GodisanAtheist]

Everyone: Twitter sucks and it's horrible

Also Everyone: *Keeps Using Twitter*

 

[Lost_in_the_HTTP]

Hmm, unless Russia's rail engineers and workers are as incompetent as the military, I don't think this is a huge problem:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1686009909018583040

Oh for crying out loud - a blown up rail segment is sensitive media??!

When are you going to stop using MoscowMusXMedia?

 

[KMFJD]

rename the link from twitter to nitter, or use the re-director i posted

interesting series of 7 hour long videos on USSR's decline from 1985 until Putin