Russia on brink of ... NOPE! Russia INVADES Ukraine!

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APU_Fusion

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Why should I care what talking heads say on Russian media? They’re the equivalent of FoxNews/CNN/MSNBC and have zero say in this war.

But good job by doing their own work for them by spreading their propaganda in this thread. Maybe they should hire you.
Awww boo-boo you denying your masters may defenestration you for such pathetic attempts to deflect from your propaganda. Comrade dumbass
 
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fskimospy

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Haha, speaking of living standard comparisons

Too bad your gas station paradise is run by mafia and cold war fossils. That kind of PPP in a free, integrated society would actually count for something. 130ish people run your slavic gas station and fertilizer plant, and they're all more concerned with personal bank accounts and getting European vacations back than serving the Russian people. They lie about everything, especially about things that matter.

"According to the Central Bank of the Russian Federation, Russian inflation expectations jumped to 11.1% in July. Today I measure inflation at 60%/yr, ~5.5x the central bank's data point. The expectations appear to be way too optimistic," -Steve Hanke

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Russia is a dying country, run by cruel people, being held afloat by China and the black market. Tick tock cyka
Russia’s main problem is they have nothing anyone wants other than oil and gas. Their culture is degenerate, the state is corrupt, etc.

There’s a reason why all their neighbors want nothing to do with them.
 

cytg111

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Nope:



Boom. Double Roasted.

Retirement age : 65.
Translation: Sucks to be Russian.


Average male lifespan in Finland? Glad you asked, its like 80. Wonder what the difference is. Well its 15 years, but you know what I mean. Wonder why it sucks so much to be a Russian? Wonder why former satellite states takes one look at that shit bird and runs towards Europe. Its a fucking mystery.
 
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kage69

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-HA, America thinks its so great but couldn't even get into the top 18 on Hanke's Inflation Dashboard. Russian Chessmaster, Best Chessmaster. Checkmate filthy American pigdog.

Admittedly, Russian bear does have some work to do to catch up to... Zimbabwe.

That always cracks me up, my dad used to say that.
 

Jaskalas

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Their job is not performance based.
Spewing !@#$ is the satisfactory conclusion, after all... propaganda just existing... is actually enough for it to be dangerous.
They provide the alt-reality. Facts, logic, reason. None of that matters. Never did.

The only measurement of their success is if our nation betrays Europe, NATO, Ukraine.
And there is a hell of a lot more than a zero percent chance of that actually happening Nov 2024.
 
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GodisanAtheist

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Their job is not performance based.
Spewing !@#$ is the satisfactory conclusion, after all... propaganda just existing... is actually enough for it to be dangerous.
They provide the alt-reality. Facts, logic, reason. None of that matters. Never did.

The only measurement of their success is if our nation betrays Europe, NATO, Ukraine.
And there is a hell of a lot more than a zero percent chance of that actually happening Nov 2024.

-One the internet it's like a knowledge landmine. Someone goes searching for material to educate themselves, stumbles on some old prop and *BAM* you got some poor unwitting bastard going down the alternate facts timeline weeks/months/years after the initial poster died of Vodka poisoning.
 
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you2

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Russia’s main problem is they have nothing anyone wants other than oil and gas. Their culture is degenerate, the state is corrupt, etc.

There’s a reason why all their neighbors want nothing to do with them.
They used to have decent technology and even pc game makers until Putin started killing off the educated. After all it is easier to control a state of idiots with lies than intellectuals.
 

Mai72

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Ukraine is experiencing high losses on the battlefield. How long can they keep at war with Russia until it goes in their favor?

Also, they are IMO under the clock, because if Trump regains power he will reverse all US involvement set by the Biden administration.

 
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K1052

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The slow supply of armaments and munitions coupled with needless dithering over entirely conventional systems that we would not ourselves hesitate to utilize in a war has largely put Ukraine in this position. Complaints that they are struggling reflect badly on us not them IMO.

Had we supplied aircraft, ample standoff range munitions, along with all the requisite armor last year Russia would not have had the time to create all the elaborate lines of defense that now must be overcome at high costs. We also would have spent weeks relentlessly shellacking all that from the air after murdering the entire VKS and killing every SAM system that dared to turn on its radar. Ukraine has not been supplied such a capacity.
 

Young Grasshopper

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Ukraine is experiencing high losses on the battlefield. How long can they keep at war with Russia until it goes in their favor?

Also, they are IMO under the clock, because if Trump regains power he will reverse all US involvement set by the Biden administration.



Don’t worry about Trump, with how all of this is going Biden will reverse it before Election Day.

If you have 55% against continued funding with Ukraine making zero gains, you think they’re going to make any gains once snow season sets in? The snow is just going to freeze the current lines of conflict like last fall and winter, in which public funding support will just continue to erode over time with no Ukrainian movement.

This is precisely the reason why the west was pushing Ukraine so hard to launch thier counteroffensive. They needed to make gains as soon as the snow melted, get some territory in during spring/summer before snow sets in again. They’ve gained nothing so far.
 
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fskimospy

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Don’t worry about Trump, with how all of this is going Biden will reverse it before Election Day.
If you actually believe this you are delusional.

The US under Biden isn't going anywhere and the other countries in Europe are in for the long haul too. Russia has declared its goals to be a war of imperial conquest for most of Eastern Europe (remember when you pretended to oppose imperialism?) so really everyone has come to the unfortunate conclusion that the only way to be safe from Russia is to ensure they suffer a catastrophic defeat they will remember for a long time.
 
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Perknose

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This end of a NYT article, Putin's Forever War, is notable to me for two quotes:

"On each visit I made to a cemetery to see the graves of the war dead, F.S.B. agents would park their car 50 meters away, a gentle reminder.
On my last day in Moscow, I went to the Bolshoy Moskvoretsky Bridge beneath the Kremlin. A small shrine marks the spot where Boris Y. Nemtsov, a towering opposition figure, was gunned down on Feb. 27, 2015 — a flagrant political murder.

Somebody is always present at the shrine, watching over it, making sure there is a fresh bouquet of flowers. On this day, the task fell to Arkady Konikov, who told me: “Nemtsov was an honest politician, a very unusual thing. He was a brave man, a great man.”

The year before Mr. Nemtsov died, almost a decade ago, as the Russian-instigated fighting in the Donbas region of Ukraine began, he wrote on his Facebook page: “Putin has declared war on Ukraine. This is a fratricidal war. Russia and Ukraine will pay a high price for the bloody insanity of this mentally unstable secret-police agent. Young men will die on both sides. There will be inconsolable mothers and sisters.”

More recently, just before Mr. Gorbachev’s death on Aug. 30, 2022, Mr. Muratov, the Novaya editor, visited his friend as he lay in a Moscow hospital. The condition of the Soviet leader who decided to set Russians free, and whose funeral Mr. Putin would not attend, was grave. He could not understand much.

There was a big TV in his room. On it, playing over and over, were images of bombings and explosions in Ukraine. As Mr. Muratov left the room, he heard Mr. Gorbachev say: “Who could be happy because of this?”"
 
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[DHT]Osiris

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If you actually believe this you are delusional.

The US under Biden isn't going anywhere and the other countries in Europe are in for the long haul too. Russia has declared its goals to be a war of imperial conquest for most of Eastern Europe (remember when you pretended to oppose imperialism?) so really everyone has come to the unfortunate conclusion that the only way to be safe from Russia is to ensure they suffer a catastrophic defeat they will remember for a long time.
See this is the problem with the marketing mobiks not living in the US. They don't understand that wars are actual jobs programs for Americans. War makes us money.
 

nOOky

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The slow supply of armaments and munitions coupled with needless dithering over entirely conventional systems that we would not ourselves hesitate to utilize in a war has largely put Ukraine in this position. Complaints that they are struggling reflect badly on us not them IMO.

Had we supplied aircraft, ample standoff range munitions, along with all the requisite armor last year Russia would not have had the time to create all the elaborate lines of defense that now must be overcome at high costs. We also would have spent weeks relentlessly shellacking all that from the air after murdering the entire VKS and killing every SAM system that dared to turn on its radar. Ukraine has not been supplied such a capacity.
I wonder if Ukraine had the capacity to cut off supplies to the defensive line of the Russians how long they would hold up. Then they could wait them out, especially as winter approached.
 

K1052

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I wonder if Ukraine had the capacity to cut off supplies to the defensive line of the Russians how long they would hold up. Then they could wait them out, especially as winter approached.

We might still see this, at least from the south.
 

APU_Fusion

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Don’t worry about Trump, with how all of this is going Biden will reverse it before Election Day.

If you have 55% against continued funding with Ukraine making zero gains, you think they’re going to make any gains once snow season sets in? The snow is just going to freeze the current lines of conflict like last fall and winter, in which public funding support will just continue to erode over time with no Ukrainian movement.

This is precisely the reason why the west was pushing Ukraine so hard to launch thier counteroffensive. They needed to make gains as soon as the snow melted, get some territory in during spring/summer before snow sets in again. They’ve gained nothing so far.
You have the balls to claim Ukraine made 0 gains taking their own territory from you war criminals and are trying to argue Biden will reverse funding? you are the bigliest of losers. You are a sicko. I hope Ukraine has a long talk with you Comrade ass-clown. I mean many people are saying grasshoppers that are young are a delicacy in Ukraine. Many of the best people are saying. Russia the failed state Brings a sweet tear to my eye.
 
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