Russia on brink of ... NOPE! Russia INVADES Ukraine!

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borosp1

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Time to sanction Kazakhstan for sending armor to Russia for use in the invasion of Ukraine. The excuse is even better than the evidence:
"Kazakhstan Ministry of Defense responded with a nonsensical claim that this military equipment belongs to a "3rd country" and that it's going to Russia for "planned repairs." Such an absurd explanation only lends more credence to the allegation."

 

kage69

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Time to sanction Kazakhstan for sending armor to Russia for use in the invasion of Ukraine. The excuse is even better than the evidence:
"Kazakhstan Ministry of Defense responded with a nonsensical claim that this military equipment belongs to a "3rd country" and that it's going to Russia for "planned repairs." Such an absurd explanation only lends more credence to the allegation."


Kazakhs just traded old shitty equipment for a Western response they won't like. And you know what? I'm going to say it. I don't think their potassium is special at all.
 

Ajay

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Time to sanction Kazakhstan for sending armor to Russia for use in the invasion of Ukraine. The excuse is even better than the evidence:
"Kazakhstan Ministry of Defense responded with a nonsensical claim that this military equipment belongs to a "3rd country" and that it's going to Russia for "planned repairs." Such an absurd explanation only lends more credence to the allegation."

To avoid satellite detection - are these people stupid?? The combination of spy satellite coverage, sigint and humint between the US and its allies is astronomical. Most people don't know that our optical spy satellites are are basically the size of the Hubble Space Telescope - but pointed at the earth. The NSA employs large HPC clusters to correct for atmospheric degradation and use image recognition to track a large list of targets of interest and use shots from multiple angles to make synthesized 3D images. We even had at least one binocular spy telescope to create 3D images directly (it was decommissioned and offered to NASA).

All I can say is lolololololololololololol......
 
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KMFJD

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Nice, this looks like an important target.

That was an important optics manufacturing plant (producing sights, thermal imagers, laser rangefinders, and other similar products) that was apparently attached to an artillery shell plant as well...there's a lot of damage reported and the reports show a lot of shell fragments on the ground





/edit - pyrotechnic company apparently

https://www.euronews.com/2023/08/09...rth-of-moscow-hospitalises-at-least-19-people
 
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K1052

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A translated post on how Russian claims of how much equipment and what types they destroy become vastly inflated or even totally fabricated. Basically their structure demands that everyone lie to each other.

Provides some illumination on how they end up claiming totally absurd shit like they've blown up 200 M142s, hundreds of Bradleys, or shot down a B2 bomber or whatever.

 

K1052

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It would be good if both of these things happen soon. Even limited quantities of ATACMS would give Ukraine new strike opportunities for targets that decay quickly (like the missile battery firing Onyx from Crimea). Taurus would bolster Ukraine's low observable cruise missile arsenal and the warhead might be better for an attack on certain structures.

They need a deeper magazine though so we should also send SLAM-ER.

The prohibitions against use of these weapons on Russian territory should also be withdrawn, at a bare minimum for the oblasts bordering Ukraine.

 

Brovane

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It would be good if both of these things happen soon. Even limited quantities of ATACMS would give Ukraine new strike opportunities for targets that decay quickly (like the missile battery firing Onyx from Crimea). Taurus would bolster Ukraine's low observable cruise missile arsenal and the warhead might be better for an attack on certain structures.

They need a deeper magazine though so we should also send SLAM-ER.

The prohibitions against use of these weapons on Russian territory should also be withdrawn, at a bare minimum for the oblasts bordering Ukraine.


Stop dithering Biden and give Ukraine the weapons they need to remove all the Orcs from Ukraine.
 

kage69

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Moscow is out of range even if the Ukrainians wanted to defy us (they don't). Just give them the missiles Joe. A couple dozen ATACMS at the beginning of the counter offensive would have probably meant a couple thousand Ukrainians not getting killed. These aren't Russians who don't care about their own people damn it.

At the very least enough with getting impatient over Ukrainian timetables. Give them everything they ask for and then kvetch when they don't meet expectations. Complaining about the work of someone you deprive of tools is just shameful in my opinion. This US taxpayer says take all the time you need Ukraine. My assistance gives me no right to judge how time effective your fight for survival is. Please ignore any Westerner who feels otherwise, and with my apologies.
 

K1052

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Moscow is out of range even if the Ukrainians wanted to defy us (they don't). Just give them the missiles Joe. A couple dozen ATACMS at the beginning of the counter offensive would have probably meant a couple thousand Ukrainians not getting killed. These aren't Russians who don't care about their own people damn it.

At the very least enough with getting impatient over Ukrainian timetables. Give them everything they ask for and then kvetch when they don't meet expectations. Complaining about the work of someone you deprive of tools is just shameful in my opinion. This US taxpayer says take all the time you need Ukraine. My assistance gives me no right to judge how time effective your fight for survival is. Please ignore any Westerner who feels otherwise, and with my apologies.

Moscow is supposedly in range of Taurus which is reportedly part of the German hesitation. Apparently the maximum range on these is greater than previously believed.

I see no reason that military facilities in say Taganrog and Rostov-on-Don should not be host to Ukrainian arrivals though.
 
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