Russia on brink of ... NOPE! Russia INVADES Ukraine!

Page 1174 - Seeking answers? Join the AnandTech community: where nearly half-a-million members share solutions and discuss the latest tech.

Jaskalas

Lifer
Jun 23, 2004
33,935
7,993
136
Remember, Russians don't think like us. They are subservient to their core and will believe anything their masters will tell them.
Farmers are pretty stupid, especially republican farmers. I think its the ethanol affecting their brain.
Am I the only one sitting here, thinking the "Russians don't think like us" is complete BS?
Republicans worship Trump the exact same way Russians worship Vlad the Butcher.
Trump told them to hate NATO, and so Republicans hate NATO.

I see no difference at all between Republicans and Orcs. Not one god damn difference.
I would like to see them prove otherwise, but I am absolutely certain they will never fail to disappoint. The moment Republicans gain enough power, the US will betray Europe, NATO, Ukraine.
We will become enablers of Genocide.

We merely need to complete our devolution to make our every day life just as nightmarish as theirs. Don't worry, our knuckle draggers are working on getting us there.
 
Reactions: RnR_au

kage69

Lifer
Jul 17, 2003
28,645
39,988
136
It's not only Putin. Westerners like to believe some leadership change could end the war - it won't. Most the alternative parties are Russian nationalists. Ukrainian independence is only allowable in a very limited sense in their worldviews.

Would Russia be less aggressive with other non-paranoid leadership? Probably. But Russian people are like interwar Germany where they feel treated like the defeated without having been totally defeated. Seems it often leads to irrational aggression.

Of course not, refer to the "130ish people" I referenced earlier, or my comment on Russia being run by cruel people. Nationalists are all that's left in positions of power. The point is Putin himself is wholly responsible for the conflict, the war crimes that have occurred. Crimes against humanity; genocide, the theft of children, crazy shit to inflict on 'your brothers.' So this now precludes him and his regime from taking part in any future peace negotiations with Ukraine, as per Zelenskyy on multiple occasions.

I don't know what Russia will get for a leader after Putin. Things could shift into 'high gear' for awhile and we could get surprised. More likely it's another siloviki bratva hybrid with similar imperial delusions to Putin, Medvedev or Prigozhin. Regardless, whomever takes the job, he'll sign on without Putin's fascist war criminal baggage or history of tossing agreements out the window when it suits him. At least initially. It won't produce trust or erase the past, but that's what Ukraine needs to even sit down at the table. What happens from there will depend on if Russians still occupy Ukrainian land and if Russia is serious about peace.

If they need to keep losing until those worldviews change, so be it. Interwar Germany was affected by the Teuton v Slav thing, whereas Russians and Ukrainians are both Slavs. I'm hoping that will expedite reconciliation at some point, maybe, but Ukrainian independence and sovereignty are nonnegotiable. I expect Russians will continue to die en masse until this becomes clear.
 
Last edited:

kage69

Lifer
Jul 17, 2003
28,645
39,988
136
This is why Russia needs to be destroyed like Germany was. It's the only way. They nned to live in fire and rubble and the children need to have to eat their parents to survive, for them to ever learn. Russia needs to suffer.

I know it sounds like running in and decimating them will just embolden them to hate the rest of the world even more, but I don't think so. Remember, Russians don't think like us. They are subservient to their core and will believe anything their masters will tell them. Just fuck the ever loving shit out of that fake culture and non-existent country, give them new leaders, and they'll step in line. They'll worship their conquerors, because that's all they really know.

Patton was right.

Disagree. Fuck nation building in fact, that only works when everyone else lives in charred ruins. I'm not one for supporting puppet governments who will have insurgencies everywhere to deal with. It wasn't worth American lives in Iraq or Afghanistan and it won't be for whatever Russia fractures into. Let it collapse and let Russians try to learn from their mistakes, let them pay the bills for a revolution. If they can't they'll be a marginalized collection of backwater territories, competing with each other for influence and that primo position next to Beijing's dick. No more czarist expansion projects. You need money and no impending demographic collapse for that kind of thing.

Patton had some great tactics. Not being fond of war leaders who can't fight, I also admired his considerable martial prowess and horse experience. But, the man was a narcissistic racist brat, one sheet away from a Grand Wizard. He also got Task Force Baum (303 men) basically annihilated when he sent it to rescue his POW son in law in 1945. He was so very, very wrong there, and elsewhere.
 
Last edited:

dainthomas

Lifer
Dec 7, 2004
14,635
3,507
136
It looks more and more like the Ukrainian offensive has slowed down to a crawl.
And they've switched back to their familiar tactics because of their own limitations.

And recent US polling shows that the majority of US wants military support in the form of intelligence sharing and not sending weapons which is not a good sign.
Ukraine has redoubled their southern offense in the last few days and also did some house cleaning which makes think whether it was in response to the bad news.

That polling is ridiculous. Biden and/or Austin needs to get better at messaging the fact that transferring our leftovers to Ukraine is far different than buying brand new weapons and sending them over. We're saving so much money in storage and disposal by having AFU dispose them on the heads of invaders it's ridiculous.

As far as the offensive stalling, this is 100% the result of us dragging our feet for the last year in giving them the aircraft and long range weapons they've been asking for. Russia has been given all the time they could possibly need to mine absolutely every square inch of their defensive line. And now I hear F16 delivery may take even longer, how is that even possible?
 
Reactions: Drach

K1052

Elite Member
Aug 21, 2003
47,974
37,109
136
And now I hear F16 delivery may take even longer, how is that even possible?

Given the timeline now it would probably be a good idea to start sending Ukraine's Mig-29s out for rebuilds in Poland. The planes could be substantially upgraded and most western weapons integrated. A Mig-29 with an AESA radar and AIM-120Ds or Meteor isn't nothing.
 
Reactions: Leeea

you2

Diamond Member
Apr 2, 2002
5,948
1,125
126
Politics in iOwa....
CNN was in iOwa covering the candidates and addressed a group of iOwa republicans CNN gathered for questioning. Asked if these iOwa republicans supported supporting Ukraine not one of the group raised their hand. And the group went further denouncing the financial aid given to Ukraine so far.

You see, here is the problem.
These FARMERS know nothing about how it works. These FARMERS know nothing about NATO and the importance of NATO in keeping the world free from people like Putin. They think its all a big waste of money.
These republicans, most republicans can not understand what a communist takeover would look like, how it would affect America's freedom and.... the future of American freedom. And, they do not understand NATO.

Farmers are pretty stupid, especially republican farmers. I think its the ethanol affecting their brain.
Well I think you mistake their perspective. I think the farmers know plenty. They know that Ukraine is giving the Biden crime family millions of dollars because that is what Fox tells them. They know that NATO is this organization that is largely funded by America because that is what Fox tells them. They know that Russia is basically a peaceful country and Ukraine are nazi who were killing Russians because that is what Fox tells them..... So of course they don't want to fund Ukraine.
 

you2

Diamond Member
Apr 2, 2002
5,948
1,125
126
How do you negotiate with someone who keeps murdering Ukrainian women and children? The answer of course, is with weapons.

You don't really want to negotiate with weapons as much as utter destruction. Unfortunately weapon is a poor replacement for utter destruction as it just leads to more death to the folks who are having their women and children murdered.
 

Young Grasshopper

Senior member
Nov 9, 2007
951
326
136
Your hard earned tax dollars at work:



He said: “The most outrageous thing was that certain military commissars began to enrich themselves and buy new real estate abroad - particularly in Spain - and expensive luxury cars from the beginning of the war. It outraged Ukrainian society."
 
Reactions: zinfamous

K1052

Elite Member
Aug 21, 2003
47,974
37,109
136
Your hard earned tax dollars at work:


Ukraine has corruption issues and while some strides have been made there is a lot of work to do, as most Ukrainians seem to think. Accelerated integration with the EU will help bring some of this about over the long term.

This however pales in comparison to the "If corruption were a physical country" situation that is the Russian state. Whole place is rotten to the core.
 

JTsyo

Lifer
Nov 18, 2007
11,812
946
126

Roger Wilco

Diamond Member
Mar 20, 2017
4,112
6,143
136

itsmydamnation

Platinum Member
Feb 6, 2011
2,912
3,524
136
Your hard earned tax dollars at work:

You see openness and transparency with a desire to improve as a bad thing ?

Your such a fuck head why aren't you on the front lines bleeding for Vlad like a good little troglodyte ?
 

cytg111

Lifer
Mar 17, 2008
23,960
13,480
136
Your hard earned tax dollars at work:

Sounds like Ukraine is coming down hard on corruption. I fucking love it. That is EU material right there.

Also, if you're not an actual russo bot, then you comprehension of basic geo politics 101 is non existent. All those dollars spend on Ukraine is actually dollars saved.
 
Reactions: Leeea

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
111,118
30,070
146
Am I the only one sitting here, thinking the "Russians don't think like us" is complete BS?
Republicans worship Trump the exact same way Russians worship Vlad the Butcher.
Trump told them to hate NATO, and so Republicans hate NATO.

I see no difference at all between Republicans and Orcs. Not one god damn difference.
I would like to see them prove otherwise, but I am absolutely certain they will never fail to disappoint. The moment Republicans gain enough power, the US will betray Europe, NATO, Ukraine.
We will become enablers of Genocide.

We merely need to complete our devolution to make our every day life just as nightmarish as theirs. Don't worry, our knuckle draggers are working on getting us there.

You're right. But the point here is that Republicans also don't think like us. Their brains are as rotten as the average Putin-loving Ruskie, and the shame of it is, they never had to live in fucking Russia to be gaslighted this way. They let it happen to him with all of the freely available actual information that we have access to.
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
111,118
30,070
146
Your hard earned tax dollars at work:


imagine that. Ukraine actually dealing with their deep-seeded corruption for once.

Gee, wonder how that was possible?
 
Reactions: Meghan54 and Leeea

kage69

Lifer
Jul 17, 2003
28,645
39,988
136
You don't really want to negotiate with weapons as much as utter destruction. Unfortunately weapon is a poor replacement for utter destruction as it just leads to more death to the folks who are having their women and children murdered.

I regret that my figure of speech failed you. My bad.
 

brycejones

Lifer
Oct 18, 2005
27,560
26,641
136

kage69

Lifer
Jul 17, 2003
28,645
39,988
136
Your hard earned tax dollars at work:


A minute fraction of what Shoigu took out of the Russian war chest. You're trying to make us feel indignant about chump change? Cyka please, you're talking to the defense budget that just made it rain a $3billion rounding error in Kyiv.

But since you brought it up here's some Russian rubles hard at work: Not even clean water

Let us know when there's a coup attempt in Ukraine. I mean that would just be pathetic right?
 
Reactions: Leeea
sale-70-410-exam    | Exam-200-125-pdf    | we-sale-70-410-exam    | hot-sale-70-410-exam    | Latest-exam-700-603-Dumps    | Dumps-98-363-exams-date    | Certs-200-125-date    | Dumps-300-075-exams-date    | hot-sale-book-C8010-726-book    | Hot-Sale-200-310-Exam    | Exam-Description-200-310-dumps?    | hot-sale-book-200-125-book    | Latest-Updated-300-209-Exam    | Dumps-210-260-exams-date    | Download-200-125-Exam-PDF    | Exam-Description-300-101-dumps    | Certs-300-101-date    | Hot-Sale-300-075-Exam    | Latest-exam-200-125-Dumps    | Exam-Description-200-125-dumps    | Latest-Updated-300-075-Exam    | hot-sale-book-210-260-book    | Dumps-200-901-exams-date    | Certs-200-901-date    | Latest-exam-1Z0-062-Dumps    | Hot-Sale-1Z0-062-Exam    | Certs-CSSLP-date    | 100%-Pass-70-383-Exams    | Latest-JN0-360-real-exam-questions    | 100%-Pass-4A0-100-Real-Exam-Questions    | Dumps-300-135-exams-date    | Passed-200-105-Tech-Exams    | Latest-Updated-200-310-Exam    | Download-300-070-Exam-PDF    | Hot-Sale-JN0-360-Exam    | 100%-Pass-JN0-360-Exams    | 100%-Pass-JN0-360-Real-Exam-Questions    | Dumps-JN0-360-exams-date    | Exam-Description-1Z0-876-dumps    | Latest-exam-1Z0-876-Dumps    | Dumps-HPE0-Y53-exams-date    | 2017-Latest-HPE0-Y53-Exam    | 100%-Pass-HPE0-Y53-Real-Exam-Questions    | Pass-4A0-100-Exam    | Latest-4A0-100-Questions    | Dumps-98-365-exams-date    | 2017-Latest-98-365-Exam    | 100%-Pass-VCS-254-Exams    | 2017-Latest-VCS-273-Exam    | Dumps-200-355-exams-date    | 2017-Latest-300-320-Exam    | Pass-300-101-Exam    | 100%-Pass-300-115-Exams    |
http://www.portvapes.co.uk/    | http://www.portvapes.co.uk/    |