Russia on brink of ... NOPE! Russia INVADES Ukraine!

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zinfamous

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This is the right guy at the right moment.

Funny how he seemed marginally competent with my admittedly limited knowledge of the man until this moment and he now appears to be the perfect man for the job. Strange how things work like that and people can change themselves rapidly if needed.

Funny. Poroshenko was on NPR last week railing against Zelensky, that he's the wrong leader for Ukraine and no threat to Putin. That this wouldn't have happened if Poroshenko was still president, etc. Same old shtick. Still, he's there and fighting (well, taking photos, at least? not sure. I won't make hard assumptions about that.) That's well more than you can hope from the Putin-backed GOP swine that leads our country and immediately flees and hides whenever the dangerous consequences of their thoroughly predictable actions come by to say hello.

re-reading that, I am thinking your comment suggests that you understood that to be Zelensky in the video, the current president of Ukraine, and not Petro Poroshenko, his predecessor? (whom it is)
 

jones377

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In addition to changing it's long standing policy yesterday, of not sending german weapons to countries at war, now the German government announces this:

Scholz said that the German government would allocate €100 billion earmarked for the German armed forces, the Bundeswehr, in the 2022 budget. "From "From now on, more than 2% of our GDP will be invested in our defense," Scholz said.

https://www.dw.com/en/germanys-reve...licy-response-to-putins-aggression/a-60932652

edit: I did some digging and found that germany spent €57,3B (1,53% of GDP) on the Bundeswehr in 2021, making this a 73% increase year over year. In addition, this would put Germany in 2nd or 3rd place in NATO when it comes to percentage of GDP for defense after being near the bottom for so long.
 
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Funny. Poroshenko was on NPR last week railing against Zelensky, that he's the wrong leader for Ukraine and no threat to Putin. That this wouldn't have happened if Poroshenko was still president, etc. Same old shtick. Still, he's there and fighting (well, taking photos, at least? not sure. I won't make hard assumptions about that.) That's well more than you can hope from the Putin-backed GOP swine that leads our country and immediately flees and hides whenever the dangerous consequences of their thoroughly predictable actions come by to say hello.

re-reading that, I am thinking your comment suggests that you understood that to be Zelensky in the video, the current president of Ukraine, and not Petro Poroshenko, his predecessor? (whom it is)

Yeah I got that backward. However the point is the same.
 
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zinfamous

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In addition to changing it's long standing policy yesterday, of not sending german weapons to countries at war, now the German government announces this:



https://www.dw.com/en/germanys-reve...licy-response-to-putins-aggression/a-60932652

edit: I did some digging and found that germany spent €57,3B (1,53% of GDP) on the Bundeswehr in 2021, making this a 73% increase year over year. In addition, this would put Germany in 2nd or 3rd place in NATO when it comes to percentage of GDP for defense after being near the bottom for so long.

uh oh...mark this day. Germany remaking its army.

I don't know if you guys are history buffs, but...


 
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Muse

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Disaster for The Vlad, at this point, to regain face as a power to be reckoned with and not a joke, he has to drop the sun. 50% he drops a nuke albeit a small one.
Using a nuke would fully ensure his own destruction.
 

[DHT]Osiris

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Strikes me that the smart thing to do in that situation is to drop your rifle, raise your hands and be taken prisoner. They were tricked into fighting.
Seeing more than one report that soldiers who 'ran out of fuel' just syphoned their gas onto the road and fucked off back to Russia.
 
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cytg111

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Using a nuke would fully ensure his own destruction.

I tend to believe you are right… you can be right and glowing in the dark at the same time though

 
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Jaskalas

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Using a nuke would fully ensure his own destruction.

NATO needs to be prepared to respond to such an attack. Including if Russia commits conventional genocide. Thermobaric bombardment would be no less deadly than a nuclear weapon.
 

[DHT]Osiris

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NATO needs to be prepared to respond to such an attack. Including if Russia commits conventional genocide. Thermobaric bombardment would be no less deadly than a nuclear weapon.
Non nuclear destruction of Kyiv civilian populations is the thing I'm most concerned about. Not sure if the west will respond militarily in that case which would be a devastating loss. Pretty sure if a nuke flies, someones gonna shut their shit down with a quickness.
 

Muse

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This is the right guy at the right moment.

Funny how he seemed marginally competent with my admittedly limited knowledge of the man until this moment and he now appears to be the perfect man for the job. Strange how things work like that and people can change themselves rapidly if needed.
"The measure of intelligence is the ability to change." -- Albert Einstein

They say he was a comedian. Maybe did standup? You need to be witty as a mofo to survive in standup. He could be a hero in Ukraine like forever.
 

Muse

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NATO needs to be prepared to respond to such an attack. Including if Russia commits conventional genocide. Thermobaric bombardment would be no less deadly than a nuclear weapon.
What kind of response?
 

Grabo

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It seems a meeting close to the Ukraine-Belarus border has been agreed upon, with Lukashenko guaranteeing all planes, helis and missiles on Belarus' territory will remain on the ground.
link to bbc
 

Muse

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Yeah but (the way he thinks) if you know you're going down, you may as well take a million with you.
My hope is they won't follow his orders. People say the POTUS can't do that unless his underlings respect his intentions. Maybe it's the same in Russia???
 

cytg111

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"The measure of intelligence is the ability to change." -- Albert Einstein

They say he was a comedian. Maybe did standup? You need to be witty as a mofo to survive in standup. He could be a hero in Ukraine like forever.
Russia cant kill Zelenskyy if they tried, they’d martyr him x 10.000.
“I dont need a ride, I need ammunitionf”
- when given given an option to evacuate by the US. In full battle gear too. Its way too late to kill this joker, he is gonna live forever.
 
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