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cytg111

Lifer
Mar 17, 2008
23,550
13,115
136
Hello guys!
I see you're still living in your information cocoon. I recommend you to visit Ukrainian groups and chats sometimes, you would look at it all differently. But instead you eat what is shoveled to you by propagandists and Influencers.

What you can see in these groups now:
Insider UA (1,2 mil of subscribers)
A new comprehensive mobilization plan will appear next week - Zelenskyy
The president wants people to understand the full plan of action. So that people understand where they will end up: "From point A to point B, not just point A."

Comments:
Have you thought about stopping fucking with money, Mr. President? Or make it so that it is not fucked with
Fuck the faggots yourself😂
Zelja only after you !
What, are you going to take students to the front, you fiends?
What the fuck to fight with???? (answer from another person "with your dick!")
"I like that they pretend that people are afraid of mobilization. And people are afraid of their government abandoning them and their families after the war. Because they're spending money on Christmas trees while we're spending money on everything else."
"Don't you touch the kids!"
"Whoever screamed the most for the 91 borders goes, would that be fair?"
"Everybody understands that. Point A - a bus on the street, where four 2-by-2 meter bulls drag you in. Point B is a foxhole with no ammo or food."
Point A is the front, point B is the cemetery. It's pretty self-explanatory
I agree to honestly be in the same trench with Yermak, I will go despite my health. (Yermak - head of the president's office)
And why didn't he mobilize when the calls came, and now he's forcing people to 🤔 How many more guys have to die?
Negotiation, come on
The greatest Zeneralimus ordered to draft anyone
Point A - the 95th block of the whole neighborhood for starters, otherwise you don't have the moral right to open your mouth. (95th block - is is Zelensky's team that created his comedy TV show)
"Deputies and their children! They have all their assistants on the payroll, and there are a lot of them....
And they are raking boys from villages..."
Is kidnapping people on the streets part of a comprehensive plan?
You're already fucked up beyond belief, man.

Just enter, and check, it is all real and backed by a lot of likes comments. Check the comments in the closest posts, the mood is pretty same.

The most vicious, mocking and unrelenting Ukrainian channel. Only 125k of subscribers, but they are true internet warriors, they enjoy the videos of death of Russian soldiers and having a contest to see who can come up with the funniest comment. Some subscribers have swastikas, SS signs and other funny symbols on their avatars. Often they duplicate the text in English for their foreign fans. One of the amusements in the comments of the group is to identify a Russian visitor, ridicule and insult him, and ban after, often with freindly-fire.
And now even in a community as reckless as this, a heavy skepticism has settled in. Joyful news is viewed with suspicion. The blow to the orcs is too small. The result is not what is wanted. Officials are not trustworthy. The promises of last year are remembered. Suddenly they realize that the officials who deceive them are Jews!
Orcs have huge incomes, sanctions doesn't work, but theirs factories work, they produce missiles, drones, even North Korea gives them more at once than all allies of Ukraine! Where is our production, why are we waiting for handouts? - they ask.


Check it, check any bigger one Ukraine speaking community and you will find the same mood.
And what you won't find - is any fear of Putin's genocide. Anyone know it's bullshit to impress foreign donators. Yeah, he'll take the land and drag them into the Soviet swamp. Yes, deprive them of their independence. But he's not likely to ban the language. Nowhere do you find that fear. But there is a lot of fear that Zelensky will send all the youth to death, destroy any future of the country, and afterwards there still will be defeat and loss of everything.

And who do you think they will blame for the defeat?
1. Their corrupt government, who pursued an unprofitable policy of conflict with Russia for American money, led to a war they could not win because they were unscrupulous thieves.
2. The cynical foreign bastards who bought them for a handful of coins and screwed them over for years
3. Putin, the Muscovites, who have always been a contagion, but a familiar one, with whom it is clear how to live, on whom you can make money, whom you can deceive and pursue your interests

You will end up being the main culprit for Ukraine. Not Putin, who will pay pensions to disabled Ukrainian men, provide free education to their children and rebuild cities. But those scumbags who wanted to harm Russia with their hands. Propaganda will quote Lindsey Graham and similar figures to them many times and they will fight against the US one day if necessary.

I respect the USA for the development of science, for the James Webb telescope (which costs as much as an aircraft carrier), for the opportunities for people like Ilon Musk, for the contribution to the development of mankind, but your country in trying to keep the world hegemony and the role of the dollar, has done terrible things, lost all moral authority and continue to plunge the world into chaos. All of this will come back to you in a big way, rest assured
God damn it man, individual rights, representation and fucking freedom. If there was not a *west* do you think Putin would hold sham elections? It's only cause the *people* can look over the fence and see us having all this that these fuckers even pretend. Otherwise it would be North Korea from north to south pole. Idiot.
 

trenchfoot

Lifer
Aug 5, 2000
14,681
7,180
136
Hello guys!
I see you're still living in your information cocoon. I recommend you to visit Ukrainian groups and chats sometimes, you would look at it all differently. But instead you eat what is shoveled to you by propagandists and Influencers.

What you can see in these groups now:
Insider UA (1,2 mil of subscribers)
A new comprehensive mobilization plan will appear next week - Zelenskyy
The president wants people to understand the full plan of action. So that people understand where they will end up: "From point A to point B, not just point A."

Comments:
Have you thought about stopping fucking with money, Mr. President? Or make it so that it is not fucked with
Fuck the faggots yourself😂
Zelja only after you !
What, are you going to take students to the front, you fiends?
What the fuck to fight with???? (answer from another person "with your dick!")
"I like that they pretend that people are afraid of mobilization. And people are afraid of their government abandoning them and their families after the war. Because they're spending money on Christmas trees while we're spending money on everything else."
"Don't you touch the kids!"
"Whoever screamed the most for the 91 borders goes, would that be fair?"
"Everybody understands that. Point A - a bus on the street, where four 2-by-2 meter bulls drag you in. Point B is a foxhole with no ammo or food."
Point A is the front, point B is the cemetery. It's pretty self-explanatory
I agree to honestly be in the same trench with Yermak, I will go despite my health. (Yermak - head of the president's office)
And why didn't he mobilize when the calls came, and now he's forcing people to 🤔 How many more guys have to die?
Negotiation, come on
The greatest Zeneralimus ordered to draft anyone
Point A - the 95th block of the whole neighborhood for starters, otherwise you don't have the moral right to open your mouth. (95th block - is is Zelensky's team that created his comedy TV show)
"Deputies and their children! They have all their assistants on the payroll, and there are a lot of them....
And they are raking boys from villages..."
Is kidnapping people on the streets part of a comprehensive plan?
You're already fucked up beyond belief, man.

Just enter, and check, it is all real and backed by a lot of likes comments. Check the comments in the closest posts, the mood is pretty same.

The most vicious, mocking and unrelenting Ukrainian channel. Only 125k of subscribers, but they are true internet warriors, they enjoy the videos of death of Russian soldiers and having a contest to see who can come up with the funniest comment. Some subscribers have swastikas, SS signs and other funny symbols on their avatars. Often they duplicate the text in English for their foreign fans. One of the amusements in the comments of the group is to identify a Russian visitor, ridicule and insult him, and ban after, often with freindly-fire.
And now even in a community as reckless as this, a heavy skepticism has settled in. Joyful news is viewed with suspicion. The blow to the orcs is too small. The result is not what is wanted. Officials are not trustworthy. The promises of last year are remembered. Suddenly they realize that the officials who deceive them are Jews!
Orcs have huge incomes, sanctions doesn't work, but theirs factories work, they produce missiles, drones, even North Korea gives them more at once than all allies of Ukraine! Where is our production, why are we waiting for handouts? - they ask.


Check it, check any bigger one Ukraine speaking community and you will find the same mood.
And what you won't find - is any fear of Putin's genocide. Anyone know it's bullshit to impress foreign donators. Yeah, he'll take the land and drag them into the Soviet swamp. Yes, deprive them of their independence. But he's not likely to ban the language. Nowhere do you find that fear. But there is a lot of fear that Zelensky will send all the youth to death, destroy any future of the country, and afterwards there still will be defeat and loss of everything.

And who do you think they will blame for the defeat?
1. Their corrupt government, who pursued an unprofitable policy of conflict with Russia for American money, led to a war they could not win because they were unscrupulous thieves.
2. The cynical foreign bastards who bought them for a handful of coins and screwed them over for years
3. Putin, the Muscovites, who have always been a contagion, but a familiar one, with whom it is clear how to live, on whom you can make money, whom you can deceive and pursue your interests

You will end up being the main culprit for Ukraine. Not Putin, who will pay pensions to disabled Ukrainian men, provide free education to their children and rebuild cities. But those scumbags who wanted to harm Russia with their hands. Propaganda will quote Lindsey Graham and similar figures to them many times and they will fight against the US one day if necessary.

I respect the USA for the development of science, for the James Webb telescope (which costs as much as an aircraft carrier), for the opportunities for people like Ilon Musk, for the contribution to the development of mankind, but your country in trying to keep the world hegemony and the role of the dollar, has done terrible things, lost all moral authority and continue to plunge the world into chaos. All of this will come back to you in a big way, rest assured

If that wall-o-text is about convincing yourself of what you speak of then great job of it. But next time draft it all out, plant yer face in front of a mirror and have at it. Lucky for me I took a couple of speed reading classes and picked out a few key words that let me know what a waste of time it would be to peruse the whole propaganda piece you laid out.

Stick with the facts in a factual way and maybe you might earn some credibility in here.
 

whyitso

Member
Aug 25, 2022
104
81
61
If that wall-o-text is about convincing yourself of what you speak of then great job of it. But next time draft it all out, plant yer face in front of a mirror and have at it. Lucky for me I took a couple of speed reading classes and picked out a few key words that let me know what a waste of time it would be to peruse the whole propaganda piece you laid out.

Stick with the facts in a factual way and maybe you might earn some credibility in here.
I've laid out a lot of talking points. In response, some exercise in wit. Apparently, there is nothing substantive to answer, I am right.
 

fskimospy

Elite Member
Mar 10, 2006
84,814
49,504
136
Rapes and tortures - most of Russian doesn't believe its true (at least doesn't want to believe it). Russian soldiers are highly disciplined, they all signed contract with very high wages and good compensations. They doesn't need to steal things, and rapes is sign of total absence of discipline, which is unbelievable. Torturing possibly are inevitable in any war for intelligence purposes.
Ukrainian side made many fakes, so such accusations mostly considered as fakes and propaganda to make the world community to sympathize and assist Ukraine.
It is proven that the Ukrainian human rights ombudsman published many false reports about rapes, including those of children. For which she was removed from her position. She also did not see a single case of execution and torture of Russian prisoners of war, despite many public videos.

Did you check 14 March Donetsk attack news? You still sure western media have no bias and all reports have no fakes and one-sidedness?



No, it wasn't a problem.
If anyone wants a reminder of how brainwashed this clown is here’s a good example.

‘Russian soldiers are highly disciplined’.

LOL.
 

fskimospy

Elite Member
Mar 10, 2006
84,814
49,504
136
I've laid out a lot of talking points. In response, some exercise in wit. Apparently, there is nothing substantive to answer, I am right.
Have you considered the possibility that you’re the victim of Russian propaganda, given that the degenerate Russian culture is one of constant lying at all levels?
 

whyitso

Member
Aug 25, 2022
104
81
61
God damn it man, individual rights, representation and fucking freedom. If there was not a *west* do you think Putin would hold sham elections? It's only cause the *people* can look over the fence and see us having all this that these fuckers even pretend. Otherwise it would be North Korea from north to south pole. Idiot.
these are all wonderful concepts and have contributed to the world being a fairer, safer and happier place. But the use of these principles to achieve geopolitical goals and their selective application has largely discredited these ideas. Alas. Forced democratization with the destruction of the country is now the favorite horror story of all autocrats on the planet.
 

trenchfoot

Lifer
Aug 5, 2000
14,681
7,180
136
I've laid out a lot of talking points. In response, some exercise in wit. Apparently, there is nothing substantive to answer, I am right.

Propagandist talking points that's been accurately rebuked and flogged to death in this forum is what you've laid out. Try harder.
 
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whyitso

Member
Aug 25, 2022
104
81
61
Ok, take a look here
You could see the mood of Ukraine auditory. You think its fake?
Am I brainwashed? Or you brainwashed?
Or why you switch topic to personality instead of looking at facts? Its kind of a way to hush up an inconvenient topic?
 

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fskimospy

Elite Member
Mar 10, 2006
84,814
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I still find one of the most interesting things about Russia is the total societal feeling of inadequacy.

They desperately, desperately want other countries to treat them as important. As I’ve said before people in Russia either refused to believe me or were baffled when I told them that Americans barely think of Russia at all as it’s a backwards shithole with nothing to offer us.
 

Perknose

Forum Director & Omnipotent Overlord
Forum Director
Oct 9, 1999
46,271
9,355
146
Hello guys!
I see you're still living in your information cocoon. I recommend you to visit Ukrainian groups and chats sometimes, you would look at it all differently. But instead you eat what is shoveled to you by propagandists and Influencers.

What you can see in these groups now:
Insider UA (1,2 mil of subscribers)
A new comprehensive mobilization plan will appear next week - Zelenskyy
The president wants people to understand the full plan of action. So that people understand where they will end up: "From point A to point B, not just point A."

Comments:
Have you thought about stopping fucking with money, Mr. President? Or make it so that it is not fucked with
Fuck the faggots yourself😂
Zelja only after you !
What, are you going to take students to the front, you fiends?
What the fuck to fight with???? (answer from another person "with your dick!")
"I like that they pretend that people are afraid of mobilization. And people are afraid of their government abandoning them and their families after the war. Because they're spending money on Christmas trees while we're spending money on everything else."
"Don't you touch the kids!"
"Whoever screamed the most for the 91 borders goes, would that be fair?"
"Everybody understands that. Point A - a bus on the street, where four 2-by-2 meter bulls drag you in. Point B is a foxhole with no ammo or food."
Point A is the front, point B is the cemetery. It's pretty self-explanatory
I agree to honestly be in the same trench with Yermak, I will go despite my health. (Yermak - head of the president's office)
And why didn't he mobilize when the calls came, and now he's forcing people to 🤔 How many more guys have to die?
Negotiation, come on
The greatest Zeneralimus ordered to draft anyone
Point A - the 95th block of the whole neighborhood for starters, otherwise you don't have the moral right to open your mouth. (95th block - is is Zelensky's team that created his comedy TV show)
"Deputies and their children! They have all their assistants on the payroll, and there are a lot of them....
And they are raking boys from villages..."
Is kidnapping people on the streets part of a comprehensive plan?
You're already fucked up beyond belief, man.

Just enter, and check, it is all real and backed by a lot of likes comments. Check the comments in the closest posts, the mood is pretty same.

The most vicious, mocking and unrelenting Ukrainian channel. Only 125k of subscribers, but they are true internet warriors, they enjoy the videos of death of Russian soldiers and having a contest to see who can come up with the funniest comment. Some subscribers have swastikas, SS signs and other funny symbols on their avatars. Often they duplicate the text in English for their foreign fans. One of the amusements in the comments of the group is to identify a Russian visitor, ridicule and insult him, and ban after, often with freindly-fire.
And now even in a community as reckless as this, a heavy skepticism has settled in. Joyful news is viewed with suspicion. The blow to the orcs is too small. The result is not what is wanted. Officials are not trustworthy. The promises of last year are remembered. Suddenly they realize that the officials who deceive them are Jews!
Orcs have huge incomes, sanctions doesn't work, but theirs factories work, they produce missiles, drones, even North Korea gives them more at once than all allies of Ukraine! Where is our production, why are we waiting for handouts? - they ask.


Check it, check any bigger one Ukraine speaking community and you will find the same mood.
And what you won't find - is any fear of Putin's genocide. Anyone know it's bullshit to impress foreign donators. Yeah, he'll take the land and drag them into the Soviet swamp. Yes, deprive them of their independence. But he's not likely to ban the language. Nowhere do you find that fear. But there is a lot of fear that Zelensky will send all the youth to death, destroy any future of the country, and afterwards there still will be defeat and loss of everything.

And who do you think they will blame for the defeat?
1. Their corrupt government, who pursued an unprofitable policy of conflict with Russia for American money, led to a war they could not win because they were unscrupulous thieves.
2. The cynical foreign bastards who bought them for a handful of coins and screwed them over for years
3. Putin, the Muscovites, who have always been a contagion, but a familiar one, with whom it is clear how to live, on whom you can make money, whom you can deceive and pursue your interests

You will end up being the main culprit for Ukraine. Not Putin, who will pay pensions to disabled Ukrainian men, provide free education to their children and rebuild cities. But those scumbags who wanted to harm Russia with their hands. Propaganda will quote Lindsey Graham and similar figures to them many times and they will fight against the US one day if necessary.

I respect the USA for the development of science, for the James Webb telescope (which costs as much as an aircraft carrier), for the opportunities for people like Ilon Musk, for the contribution to the development of mankind, but your country in trying to keep the world hegemony and the role of the dollar, has done terrible things, lost all moral authority and continue to plunge the world into chaos. All of this will come back to you in a big way, rest assured
I envision you with an erection poking through your crusty tighty-whities, shit-eating grin plastered on your mug, typing away and rocking back and forth in glee. Grow the fuck up.

 

whyitso

Member
Aug 25, 2022
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I envision you with an erection poking through your crusty tighty-whities, shit-eating grin plastered on your mug, typing away and rocking back and forth in glee. Grow the fuck up.
these are distant events for you, like a sports match, and you watch it, wishing for those assholes to get their ass kicked. And I was born in Ukraine, I have relatives there, some of them are hiding from mobilization. All this cannot make me happy. And on the contrary, I would like all these overseas warmongers to take the situation seriously and as an adult, without portraying some as orcs, others as elves, thinking in fairy-tale images.
 

fskimospy

Elite Member
Mar 10, 2006
84,814
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these are distant events for you, like a sports match, and you watch it, wishing for those assholes to get their ass kicked. And I was born in Ukraine, I have relatives there, some of them are hiding from mobilization. All this cannot make me happy. And on the contrary, I would like all these overseas warmongers to take the situation seriously and as an adult, without portraying some as orcs, others as elves, thinking in fairy-tale images.
Will you agree that Russia has agency and therefore Russia is responsible for invading Ukraine and no one else?

I get the sense that you grew up in an environment saturated by propaganda so there might be the idea that you think NATO is going to invade Russia or something. That was/is never going to happen.

The reason why Russia’s neighbors want to join NATO is that Russia keeps invading them. That’s the beginning and end of it. They just want to be left alone.
 

whyitso

Member
Aug 25, 2022
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So Putin was willing to return all the territory he illegally seized?

Or do you mean that he was willing to have Ukraine surrender because it was already trashing his hilariously incompetent army.
It is not as important now, as shock the Ukrainian society feel now knowing what all these sacrifices wasn't necessary. And NATO wouldn't help. And having learned that their goal was to weaken Russia. And the authorities are really going to implement the sarcastic expression “until the last Ukrainian”.
 

whyitso

Member
Aug 25, 2022
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I get the sense that you grew up in an environment saturated by propaganda so there might be the idea that you think NATO is going to invade Russia or something. That was/is never going to happen.
Yes, it was created against Russia. It moved toward Russia. It did attacked numerous countries.

That was/is never going to happen.
How you could be sure?
 

trenchfoot

Lifer
Aug 5, 2000
14,681
7,180
136
Ok, take a look here
You could see the mood of Ukraine auditory. You think its fake?
Am I brainwashed? Or you brainwashed?
Or why you switch topic to personality instead of looking at facts? Its kind of a way to hush up an inconvenient topic?


Look, your intentions are clear as day as well as the results you're looking for, all of which is to undermine the unity the majority of Americans have with the Ukrainians, as well as exacerbating the rift between the Trump grubs, the party they hail from vs. the majority of Americans who oppose the GOP's efforts to replace our democracy with a fascist one led by a fat orange tinged narcissist useful idiot that is owned and operated by your oligarch bosses in the Kremlin.
 

[DHT]Osiris

Lifer
Dec 15, 2015
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This tells me you don’t understand the west. We don’t care about Russia. We just want you to leave us alone. You have nothing to offer other than gas.
Besides that, it was created to counter the next Nazi Germany. If he's claiming Russia is the next Nazi Germany, well...
 
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fskimospy

Elite Member
Mar 10, 2006
84,814
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It is not as important now, as shock the Ukrainian society feel now knowing what all these sacrifices wasn't necessary. And NATO wouldn't help. And having learned that their goal was to weaken Russia. And the authorities are really going to implement the sarcastic expression “until the last Ukrainian”.
Russia could just not invade its neighbors.

Have you considered that the reason why Russia needs to invade them is because they want nothing to do with this degenerate society as it has nothing else to offer?
 

fskimospy

Elite Member
Mar 10, 2006
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Like pick anyone here. Would anyone actually like to live in Russia as compared to where they do?

Of course not. Russia is a shithole.

@Young Grasshopper @whyitso it sounds like you guys know what a dumpster that country is. Why would anyone want to live there or be under their rule?
 
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cytg111

Lifer
Mar 17, 2008
23,550
13,115
136
these are all wonderful concepts and have contributed to the world being a fairer, safer and happier place. But the use of these principles to achieve geopolitical goals and their selective application has largely discredited these ideas. Alas. Forced democratization with the destruction of the country is now the favorite horror story of all autocrats on the planet.
This has a degree of merit, I agree, the solution is of course NOT to drop the ball…
 

K1052

Elite Member
Aug 21, 2003
46,874
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It is not as important now, as shock the Ukrainian society feel now knowing what all these sacrifices wasn't necessary. And NATO wouldn't help. And having learned that their goal was to weaken Russia. And the authorities are really going to implement the sarcastic expression “until the last Ukrainian”.

I agree this is unfair. We should give Ukraine the correct weapons to kill so many more Russians and to preserve Ukrainian lives. Every Russian who sets foot on Ukrainian soil if need be.
 
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fskimospy

Elite Member
Mar 10, 2006
84,814
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I agree this is unfair. We should give Ukraine the correct weapons to kill so many more Russians and to preserve Ukrainian lives. Every Russian who sets foot on Ukrainian soil if need be.
It’s funny how when America invades Iraq it’s America’s fault but when Russia invades Ukraine it’s also…America’s fault.

If you’re going to be a big boy country then own your shit. Russia invaded Ukraine because it wanted to.
 
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