Russia on brink of ... NOPE! Russia INVADES Ukraine!

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borosp1

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Tucker Carlson tried to keep his current visit to Moscow quiet, but it's just broken on Russian channels. Cucker Carlson is a scum bag right wing propagandist will try to get the right wing politicians to slow down/stop funding to Ukraine.

Speculation he is either going on 1 of the Russian Propaganda talk shows (i.e. Vladimir Solovyov) or to interview Putin for the American audience.

 
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you2

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Tucker Carlson tried to keep his current visit to Moscow quiet, but it's just broken on Russian channels. Cucker Carlson is a scum bag right wing propagandist will try to get the right wing politicians to slow down/stop funding to Ukraine.

Speculation he is either going on 1 of the Russian Propaganda talk shows (i.e. Vladimir Solovyov) or to interview Putin for the American audience.

This is the problem with the immoral rich; they never have enough money and they have no soul. Basically they will do anything for a few dollars regardless of the cost to others.
 

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What is going on here then?!

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Seems Russian forces in the area are woefully undermanned. There is also reports that ice have currently melted and not expected to return for at least two weeks.
The situation is still bad overall for Ukraine. The foothold they have on the east bank is still shallow and its not likely to change much because the ground gets steeper (in favor of the Russians) and they will be further away from fire support in the west bank.
Also Russia now has artillery superiority and are being cocky about it because Ukraine doesn't have enough shells/munitions to attack them and are reserving it only for dire cases. The article also states that the fpv drones that Ukraine is using to compensate for their lack of artillery has has a short range of about 2 miles which cannot stop Russian artillery from flattening towns and cities to deny cover for Ukrainian defenders which Russia did to take over places like Bakhmut and Marinka.
 

kage69

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With that many drones, they need 5k drone pilots if not more.

AFU said sometime ago they are training 20,000 drone operators.

We're about to see a lot of them in action. Another Kupyansk offensive is about to begin. Poorly trained Russians with a shitload of old tanks and IFVs will start concentrated attacks, like any day now. This will be the 3rd attempt? 4th? I forget.

Putin wants back into Kharkiv Oblast proper, but all he's going to do is kiss 200-300 tanks and vehicles Goodbye, probably a few thousand mobiki too. Baba Yaga and HIMARS are going to clean some clocks. Ukrainians have soooo many drones, which are typically more accurate and flexible than artillery rounds. Mother ship drone tactics help mitigate the range difference. Don't get me wrong, I wish they had a good 200k DPICM rounds ready to go for this, but like I said months ago, this is the lean time and Ukraine will make do.

I expect drones will do a lot of heavy lifting, on both sides. A key difference will be the usual American and European "eyes and ears" pulling long hours to make sure AFU has plenty of intel and targets to consider, and no surprises.

Putin's miserable mobiki meat have food problems and cold wet days/cold freezing nights in their immediate weather forecast too, so that's nice.
 
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kage69

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Love it, check out this 4km drone incursion to take out a bridge. KZ-4 mine strapped to a long distance 4WD rover does the job, directed explosions FTW. AFU drone operators just waltz right on in and fuck it up. Outstanding. Gotta love low cost, low risk missions with high value rewards.

BOOM cyka!
 
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feralkid

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Love it, check out this 4km drone incursion to take out a bridge. KZ-4 mine strapped to a long distance 4WD rover does the job, directed explosions FTW. AFU drone operators just waltz right on in and fuck it up. Outstanding. Gotta love low cost, low risk missions with high value rewards.

BOOM cyka!
Excellent!

Also love the pheasant on the left breaking cover around 40 second mark.

 
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The long arm of the UKR?


A Russian strategic bomber pilot who was "directly involved in launching missile strikes on civilian objects in Ukraine" has been shot close to a major Russian airbase inside Moscow's territory, Ukraine's military intelligence agency has said.

A Tu-95 bomber pilot, named by Ukraine's GUR as Major Oleg Sergeevich Stegachyov, was shot in the western Russian city of Engels, east of Ukraine's borders, Kyiv said on Saturday.

The GUR said it was working to confirm whether the Russian pilot had survived the shooting.

He was "directly involved in launching missile strikes on civilian objects in Ukraine and killing our people," the military intelligence agency said in a statement, adding he served at the Engels airbase close to the city in Russia's Saratov region.

Ukraine made no mention of the circumstances under which the reported shooting occurred.


 
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raildogg

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Ukraine already had no chance of winning but now it has to compete with Israel for US money and attention. No one can compete with Israel when it comes to US support so this means Ukraine has to be regularly funded by America's European vassal states. Give the Ukrainian oligarchs endless amounts of money so they build mansions and beach properties ...
 

K1052

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Ukraine already had no chance of winning but now it has to compete with Israel for US money and attention. No one can compete with Israel when it comes to US support so this means Ukraine has to be regularly funded by America's European vassal states. Give the Ukrainian oligarchs endless amounts of money so they build mansions and beach properties ...

Would you say the war is going well for Russia?
 

raildogg

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Sanctions have failed, Russia is growing its economy and their weapons manufacturing ability is much bigger than America's. America has to beg the world to give ammo to Ukraine.

It's not about winning or not. I feel bad for the poor Ukrainians who got their country destroyed and many killed and hurt.
 
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raildogg

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With more and more US weapons heading to Israel, poor Ukraine has to question being so dependent on the US ...

Maybe Canada can send two of its remaining three tanks ...
 

K1052

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Sanctions have failed, Russia is growing its economy and their weapons industry is much bigger than America's. America has to beg the world to give ammo to Ukraine.

It's not about winning or not. I feel bad for the poor Ukrainians who got their country destroyed and many killed and hurt.

The Russians can't easily build a surface combatant larger than a corvette and had to got hat in hand to the North Koreans for artillery ammunition and missiles. The. North. Koreans.

Yes, the US arms industry is vastly larger and better than Russia's. Producing superior and more capable arms and munitions. The Ukrainians fought the Russians to a standstill with 30 year old hand me downs.

I think the Ukrainians would argue it is about winning and securing the territory they were guaranteed in writing multiple times by Russia and the west.
 
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K1052

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With more and more US weapons heading to Israel, poor Ukraine has to question being so dependent on the US ...

Maybe Canada can send two of its remaining three tanks ...

The largest, by far, arms exporter on the planet indeed seems like a good place to look for arms.
 

raildogg

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The Russians can't easily build a surface combatant larger than a corvette and had to got hat in hand to the North Koreans for artillery ammunition and missiles. The. North. Koreans.

Yes, the US arms industry is vastly larger and better than Russia's. Producing superior and more capable arms and munitions. The Ukrainians fought the Russians to a standstill with 30 year old hand me downs.

I think the Ukrainians would argue it is about winning and securing the territory they were guaranteed in writing multiple times by Russia and the west.
The Russians can get ammunition and other small weapons from its allies because the entire West is funding and arming Ukraine. Even the small NATO countries are sending whatever few weapons they have. The Brits have probably emptied out their warehouses by now.

So the North Koreans apparently have a large stockpile, so why not? America seems to want to use Ukraine as a proxy to go after Russia so Russia can look at its allies for weapons too. Don't see a big deal.



Even the UK says that Russia is building 100 tanks a month, which is huge compared to the West. Can Ukraine deal with this given its exhausted troops and low stockpiles of weapons? The article is biased by assuming that Russia cares a lot of territory. It does but only the Russian speaking regions and Crimea. I have yet to see any desire for them to expand much further West.

But you have to admit that the sanctions were a flop in hurting the Russian economy too much. It seemed to have hurt the Western Europeans more I think considering how unpopular their governments are. I think people there are tired of this Ukraine war and want to end the funding. Could be wrong though.

As far as the US arms industry, I think you are overexaggerating its abilities. They are hurting badly in many ways, especially with Patriot missiles, artillery rounds and other things that the Ukrainians need. America spends the most by far in its military but that doesn't translate to a lot of success. This is all without even factoring in China, Iran and other supposed enemy states which have huge stockpiles. America is behind in developing hypersonic missiles compared to Russia and China and possibly even Iran. It may have the most aircraft carriers but what good are they when they can't get too close to land due to the threat of hypersonic missiles?

I appreciate your response, it's good to have a dialogue even though we can all disagree on certain things.
 
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you2

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The Russians can get ammunition and other small weapons from its allies because the entire West is funding and arming Ukraine. Even the small NATO countries are sending whatever few weapons they have. The Brits have probably emptied out their warehouses by now.

So the North Koreans apparently have a large stockpile, so why not? America seems to want to use Ukraine as a proxy to go after Russia so Russia can look at its allies for weapons too. Don't see a big deal.



Even the UK says that Russia is building 100 tanks a month, which is huge compared to the West. Can Ukraine deal with this given its exhausted troops and low stockpiles of weapons? The article is biased by assuming that Russia cares a lot of territory. It does but only the Russian speaking regions and Crimea. I have yet to see any desire for them to expand much further West.

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I think this overstate things because it appears those 'new' tanks aren't lasting very long. At the rate that Ukraine is destroying tanks they would need 10x that. Of course they seem to lack the ability to actually make TANKs - that is tanks that are much more resistant to instant destruction.
 

K1052

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The Russians can get ammunition and other small weapons from its allies because the entire West is funding and arming Ukraine. The North Koreans apparently have a large stockpile, so why not? America seems to want to use Ukraine as a proxy to go after Russia so Russia can look at its allies for weapons too. Don't see a big deal.

They are getting ballistic missiles from NK which you would think the Russians would not have a hard time building if everything is ok with their domestic production. The Russians have run down their own stockpiles and are generally limited by what they can produce (not enough) and what they can get elsewhere. Their arms industry is not healthy and has major issues in corruption and inefficiency. For example can maybe make maybe 20 new (actually new not refurbed) tanks a month and they're losing that in a bad day now. This is emblematic of their struggles.


But you have to admit that the sanctions were a flop in hurting the Russian economy too much. It seemed to have hurt the Western Europeans more I think considering how unpopular their governments are. I think people there are tired of this Ukraine war and want to end the funding. Could be wrong though.

Sanctions have been partially successful. Russian revenues have been hit but yes their economy is growing but that's mostly because of the war. The Kremlin loves to talk about their low unemployment rate but thats misleading because so many people are in the army that they have critical shortages in many industries which is further hampering their output. They are now dependent on less reliable asian suppliers of much of what they used to import and the black market which means they often receive far less reliable components for greater cost. They've also turned themselves into a Chinese economic satellite state which at one time would have been considered pretty undesirable.

Euro economic issues aren't mostly about Ukraine. The US did way more stimulus during and coming out of COVID so we are in a lot better position. Energy prices spiked but have mostly settled. Russian promises about freezing Europeans aren't going to happen.

As far as the US arms industry, I think you are overexaggerating its abilities. They are hurting badly in many ways, especially with Patriot missiles, artillery rounds and other things that the Ukrainians need. America spends the most by far in its military but that doesn't translate to a lot of success. This is all without even factoring in China, Iran and other supposed enemy states which have huge stockpiles.

The US had over 40% of the entire arms export market. I would not be surprised if that figure was closer to 50% now especially since Russian arms exports have collapsed due to Ukraine need and everyone is buying.
 
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