Russia on brink of ... NOPE! Russia INVADES Ukraine!

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Jaskalas

Lifer
Jun 23, 2004
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I just like to have a good conversation with people willing to listen, understand and work towards peace.
Work towards peace?
Then tell Vlad the Butcher to go home and stop killing Ukrainians.
You want their land over their dead bodies. Just admit your lust for Genocide.
 
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raildogg

Lifer
Aug 24, 2004
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This is quite hilarious you think I must be from "over there" just because I have a different opinion. I think Putin has done plenty of bad things, including overreaching in Chechnya. He has stated that when they accomplish their purpose of disarming Ukraine and deem it not to be a threat, they will leave. You can believe that or not. Right now they need to come to a negotiation and try to keep Boris Johnson far away from that. Maybe some third party can host Russia and Ukraine and they can negotiate. Who knows how much land the Russians are willing to give up? After the hard fighting, thanks to the Western weapons and aid, Russians might not be too eager to give up any land they've taken. It's not a pleasant thing if you're a Ukrainian. You've lost land and had your country turned into a mess, but hopefully they can work something out.
 

kage69

Lifer
Jul 17, 2003
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I blame Russia losing yet another ship for this latest round of hurt feels.

Can't be easy racking up another naval defeat like that. The adversary not having a navy, yeesh, that always adds extra salt to the wound, no?

No worries comrades, I'm sure the boatyards will have that replaced in no time, just like that Kilo in dry dock. Thank goodness for all that productive Russian industry that gets everything it needs and isn't experiencing a massive manpower deficit, plus quite a brain drain. Can't be relying on North Korea and Iran for everything now can we?
 
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Jaskalas

Lifer
Jun 23, 2004
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This is quite hilarious you think I must be from "over there" just because I have a different opinion.
An opinion for Russia's Genocide of the Ukrainian people is something I hold in contempt.

You're not Russian?
So you would agree with me, that Poland should have nuclear weapons to deter Russia?
 

gothuevos

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Jul 28, 2010
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Given the current state of our Congress, Russia will probably wrap this up before the end of summer.

Should have tried for a quick off ramp/negotiations sooner especially since we knew a divided Congress couldn't keep up the funds forever.
 

Young Grasshopper

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While I get your point it needs clarification.
Afghanistan withheld a major terrorist who sponsored an attack which killed thousands
Iraq had a credible plot to assonate a US President.
While I don’t want to go into the rabbit hole of was it worth it or should have it been done, in regards to this discussion those are important items to disclose.


How about these ones?

 

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
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Its their growth that matters and finding new markets. So when the Western media cries about the Chinese threat, what they mean is that the Western world is fearful of a strong Chinese economic threat.

lol. Their RE market is something like 60% overleveraged. Yeah...they're doing great!

you fucking idiot.
 

fskimospy

Elite Member
Mar 10, 2006
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This is quite hilarious you think I must be from "over there" just because I have a different opinion. I think Putin has done plenty of bad things, including overreaching in Chechnya. He has stated that when they accomplish their purpose of disarming Ukraine and deem it not to be a threat, they will leave. You can believe that or not. Right now they need to come to a negotiation and try to keep Boris Johnson far away from that. Maybe some third party can host Russia and Ukraine and they can negotiate. Who knows how much land the Russians are willing to give up? After the hard fighting, thanks to the Western weapons and aid, Russians might not be too eager to give up any land they've taken. It's not a pleasant thing if you're a Ukrainian. You've lost land and had your country turned into a mess, but hopefully they can work something out.
To think that Russia’s goal was to disarm Ukraine flies in the face of clearly observable reality. Russia’s goal was to restore Ukraine as a vassal state (colony) by decapitating its government while simultaneously illegally annexing eastern and southern regions of it.

As someone who hates colonialism you should be raging against this invasion by Russia. Instead you’re raging against the US. Why is that?
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
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This is dehumanizing language that the colonialists use before they attack countries. Because once you dehumanize someone, you don't see them as equal to you. Calling them savages, orcs etc serves this purpose. No problem though, I am not here to attack anyone here. I just like to have a good conversation with people who are willing to listen, understand and work towards peace. Thank you.

Not at all true.

The simple fact is that if you are interested in peace, then you discuss how to remove every single "Russian" from Ukraine. Whether voluntarily or if they choose, via slaughter.

Any other discussion has nothing to do with peace. It only serves Putin, which is the sole content of all of your posts. Nothing that is happening in Ukraine is about the West. It is purely Putin. If you don't understand that, then fuck the fuck off, "Russian" bitch.
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
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This is quite hilarious you think I must be from "over there" just because I have a different opinion. I think Putin has done plenty of bad things, including overreaching in Chechnya. He has stated that when they accomplish their purpose of disarming Ukraine and deem it not to be a threat, they will leave. You can believe that or not. Right now they need to come to a negotiation and try to keep Boris Johnson far away from that. Maybe some third party can host Russia and Ukraine and they can negotiate. Who knows how much land the Russians are willing to give up? After the hard fighting, thanks to the Western weapons and aid, Russians might not be too eager to give up any land they've taken. It's not a pleasant thing if you're a Ukrainian. You've lost land and had your country turned into a mess, but hopefully they can work something out.
"overreaching in Chechnya"

Huh? you mean when he ordered the bombing of two apartment buildings in Russia, killing some 400 "Russian" citizens, then blaming it on Chechens to win his first election, then start that fake fucking war and genocide in Chechnya?

Is that what you mean? That's what history and actual plain facts tell us. But you call it "overreach"

I'd say stop simping for a genocidal fascist, but you are that person. It is how you are paid, so there really is no stopping for you.
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
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Given the current state of our Congress, Russia will probably wrap this up before the end of summer.

Should have tried for a quick off ramp/negotiations sooner especially since we knew a divided Congress couldn't keep up the funds forever.

the proud quisling of ATP&N returns to offer his sputum in the form of words.
 

fskimospy

Elite Member
Mar 10, 2006
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How many forever/proxy wars are enough?

This is why we can't have nice things.
The amount the US is actually spending on Ukraine is a rounding error to our budget.

All the US is doing here is helping Ukraine protect itself against a genocidal invasion. The bonus is we have crushed the best parts of Russia’s army for a tiny fraction of our defense budget. The return on investment is astronomical even the moral considerations of preventing genocide aside. Seems like a good cause to me.

By the way I see, having mastered political prediction you’re now on to military prediction.
 

gothuevos

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Jul 28, 2010
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The amount the US is actually spending on Ukraine is a rounding error to our budget.

All the US is doing here is helping Ukraine protect itself against a genocidal invasion. The bonus is we have crushed the best parts of Russia’s army for a tiny fraction of our defense budget. The return on investment is astronomical even the moral considerations of preventing genocide aside. Seems like a good cause to me.

By the way I see, having mastered political prediction you’re now on to military prediction.

I guess?

But funding has essentially stopped and definitely isn't resuming with either Trump taking office and/or a divided Congress next year so I think we'll all look back at this in a few years as a wasted effort.
 

fskimospy

Elite Member
Mar 10, 2006
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I guess?

But funding has essentially stopped and definitely isn't resuming with either Trump taking office and/or a divided Congress next year so I think we'll all look back at this in a few years as a wasted effort.
Definitely not. We thwarted Russia’s main war goal of regime change and we have degraded their army to the extent that they will require years to recover, giving their next targets ample time to prepare.

Even more so you aren’t factoring in the costs of not helping Ukraine, which are likely to be orders of magnitude more expensive.

This was one of the smartest geopolitical investments of all time.
 

K1052

Elite Member
Aug 21, 2003
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Given the current state of our Congress, Russia will probably wrap this up before the end of summer.

Should have tried for a quick off ramp/negotiations sooner especially since we knew a divided Congress couldn't keep up the funds forever.

There is over $4B left in the drawdown account and thanks to Trumpy even more can be added if Biden just reprograms it.

We can certainly supply Ukraine with enough munitions to last them through the year until Euro supplies get ramped up.
 

Brovane

Diamond Member
Dec 18, 2001
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This is quite hilarious you think I must be from "over there" just because I have a different opinion. I think Putin has done plenty of bad things, including overreaching in Chechnya. He has stated that when they accomplish their purpose of disarming Ukraine and deem it not to be a threat, they will leave. You can believe that or not. Right now they need to come to a negotiation and try to keep Boris Johnson far away from that. Maybe some third party can host Russia and Ukraine and they can negotiate. Who knows how much land the Russians are willing to give up? After the hard fighting, thanks to the Western weapons and aid, Russians might not be too eager to give up any land they've taken. It's not a pleasant thing if you're a Ukrainian. You've lost land and had your country turned into a mess, but hopefully they can work something out.

If Russia's intention was just to disarm Ukraine why all the raping and murders by Russian troops against Ukrainian civilians? Why all the rhetoric that Ukrainians are just Russians and should just be part of Russia? You would think if Russia really wanted to integrate Ukraine into Russia that they would make sure the civilians are welcomed as Russians as the Russian army advanced.
Russia is always going to feel threatened until they control all of Eastern Europe, which is what they did during the Cold War. Russia is threatened by just Ukraine existing as a sovereign nation.
 
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