Russia on brink of ... NOPE! Russia INVADES Ukraine!

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Young Grasshopper

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The guy with the Ukrainian flag next to him is telling the truth. What kind of nonsense is this? A country lacking ammo, troops is inflicting that much damage on a much better armed country? Please, even Ukrainian fanatics cannot be this naïve.


They’re a delusional bunch. If they said 5 to 1 I would laugh, but fucking 13 to 1?

😅😅😅

It’s like they don’t even stop to think for a second how ridiculous it sounds for a military suffering from a lack of cash, artillery and troops inflicting a 13 to 1 ratio on a much bigger, better funded, better trained and better armed opponent.

I guess they still haven’t learned Russia has an endless supply of artillery. The thinking must be because it is difficult for NATO to supply artillery to Ukraine because they are admittedly running short, Russia must be running short too!

Hey maybe the goal is to grind down the Russian military in Avdiivka for a NEW spring counteroffensive! At least that’s is what posters were telling me that was the goal last year in Bakhmut.
 

GodisanAtheist

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Nov 16, 2006
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They’re a delusional bunch. If they said 5 to 1 I would laugh, but fucking 13 to 1?

😅😅😅

It’s like they don’t even stop to think for a second how ridiculous it sounds for a military suffering from a lack of cash, artillery and troops inflicting a 13 to 1 ratio on a much bigger, better funded, better trained and better armed opponent.

I guess they still haven’t learned Russia has an endless supply of artillery. The thinking must be because it is difficult for NATO to supply artillery to Ukraine because they are admittedly running short, Russia must be running short too!

Hey maybe the goal is to grind down the Russian military in Avdiivka for a NEW spring counteroffensive! At least that’s is what posters were telling me that was the goal last year in Bakhmut.

-I don't understand why it's taken Russia so long to win this war then.

I mean, clearly with such a superior military Russia should have ended this conflict a year ago with a decisive across the board victory and spared many Ukrainian lives with an unambiguous uncontestable quick victory.

Are Russians cruelly playing with their victim before delivering the death stroke?
 

Jaskalas

Lifer
Jun 23, 2004
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Thats… they get to not go to war?
Republicans do not understand that notion.
As Trump said, they would NEVER defend Europe in the first place.
MAGA = the death of America's place in the world and the elevation of our enemies to new heights.
 
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Jaskalas

Lifer
Jun 23, 2004
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Fuck Russia, give Ukraine nukes.
If we did that.
Then we would be BETTER off with a United States first strike against Russia.
You cannot give Ukraine nuclear weapons without starting a nuclear war. If you are determined to execute MAD, you might as well do it correctly.

Thus, I am opposed to giving nuclear weapons to countries currently fighting.
They must be given to nations AT PEACE, so they fulfill their role at keeping the peace. To make aggressors think twice.
As Russia is an aggressor, dozens of nuclear weapons need to be provided to each and every border nation.
That is how you properly handle nukes in the face of Russian aggression.
 
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zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
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That's what you say but I think the hate is growing the terrible leadership in most of these NATO countries, including America. Germans want a good standard of living, not virtue signaling on Ukraine.

Are you not yet angry enough that Putin is happily slaughtering your brothers in "Russia" to feed his ego?
 
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zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
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Ukraine cannot be a NATO country according to Russia's foreign policy.

why does Occupied Mongolia get to have a foreign policy related to the sovereignty of other nations? They don't.

Why should anyone give a fuck what Occupied Mongolia thinks about this? No one should. Get bent, dumbfuck.
What kind of argument is this that you are making, thinking anyone would take this seriously?

I mean, these are the words straight from a Putin acolyte; a Kremlin word-speaking person, mumbling into the wind as if anyone else in the world should give a flying fuck about what Occupied Mongolia wants.
 
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Muse

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Thus, I am opposed to giving nuclear weapons to countries currently fighting.
They must be given to nations AT PEACE, so they fulfill their role at keeping the peace. To make aggressors think twice.
As Russia is an aggressor, dozens of nuclear weapons need to be provided to each and every border nation.
That is how you properly handle nukes in the face of Russian aggression.
I am unaware of the USA or any nation giving nuclear weapons to any countries. I thought that all nations with nuclear weapons had developed them themselves. Um, perhaps with a "little help?" But I'm unaware of that.
 
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kage69

Lifer
Jul 17, 2003
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When facts are on your side, one can let the water slide off their back. Call me names, no problem. I knew your questions were "gotcha" questions.


Asking you to expand on your lies are gotcha questions, I love it!

Problem is you don't have any facts, you just have delusions you cling to. NATO and Ukraine for instance, you seem quite happy to promote the weak Russian fiction that countries asking to join NATO (and being denied over qualifications) is NATO expanding. Yet another point of denial with you and your kind, this problem where you just can't accept the fact that a country not wanting to be invaded and occupied would seek protection.

You even smeared that No Collusion bullshit all over your face, with a smile. Nice job! Hurts the feels to know Russia financed GQP campaigns, doesn't it? Repugs sharing election data with Russian intelligence? Yeah that's collusion. Does your dumbass even know who Paul Manafort is? Guess you mentally blocked out when Trump pardoned the colluder eh? How about Charles McGonegal? The FBI agent supposed to run the Russian investigation was actually working for Oleg Deripaska. The binder with 3000 pages worth of details and evidence? Disappeared and is still missing. That's not just collusion, that's conspiracy, that's why that asshole got handed a prison sentence. And you and your fellow shills want to pretend it never happened, naturally.

When the facts aren't on your side, you spew bullshit and outright lies, or claim "gotcha questions." Quite cowardly. Explains your entire stream of posts here though really. Your contempt for making sense, for understanding the subject, it's all really impressive in a way. If you're not getting paid for this display of indoctrination, I guess making a fool out of yourself is a hobby then? Repeating lies that other trolls have already tried, rehurgitating Kremlin talking points, cheerleading the deaths and subjugation of Ukrainians who only want self-determination... that's a pastime for you apparently. Sad stuff, especially if you call yourself an American.

You can try to gaslight people all you want, argue facts that are in clear evidence, but all you're ever going to do here is embarrass yourself. The last dozen pages in this forum back that up. Be another Team Treason joke I guess *shrug* No collusion? Wrong, and get fucked traitor.
 
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Xcobra

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Such passion from a Ukraine fanatic!
Ukraine fanatic?? You mean, people are for the freedoms of a sovereign nation and its immense fight to keep them from being destroyed by a Nazi-wannabe dictator with an army that can't even comprehend what their objective is... Please, tell me more about this fanatism. Russia would love you, comrade 🙄
 

fskimospy

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-I don't understand why it's taken Russia so long to win this war then.

I mean, clearly with such a superior military Russia should have ended this conflict a year ago with a decisive across the board victory and spared many Ukrainian lives with an unambiguous uncontestable quick victory.

Are Russians cruelly playing with their victim before delivering the death stroke?
Forget them playing with their victim, the obvious conclusion here is that Russia could have won the war years ago but instead caused the maiming or deaths of hundreds of thousands of their own citizens and the destruction of a large portion of their army, built at great expense.

Talk about a scandal - I’m sure that’s going to be an issue in the Totally Free And Fair upcoming Russian presidential election.
 

kage69

Lifer
Jul 17, 2003
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Dickless fascism fanbois demonstrating their afflictions in public leaves such a foulness in the air here. The dishonesty, the snarky indifference to families being wiped out, the adoration of brutality, ugh. I will try and freshen things up with a nice article from someone who was actually there in the middle of it.

Jakub Jajcay, a Slovak who went to help defend Ukraine from Putin's invasion two summers ago, uploaded this today. A good read, covers some details that I haven't heard elsewhere. Confirms other
data and also stresses some operational issues that I hope get some attention.

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In August 2022, I became a rifleman in an infantry battalion of the Ukrainian Armed Forces (Zbroyny Sily Ukrainy, ZSU). Over the course of the following year, I would spend a total of ten months fighting with the unit on the front lines in the Kharkiv, Donetsk, and Luhansk Oblasts. Before joining the ZSU, I had been a Ph.D. student in political science and before that an officer in the Armed Forces of the Slovak Republic. My time in the trenches gave me certain insights into the war that, I hope, might be useful to readers who want to gain a better understanding of the most important armed conflict of our lifetimes. They might also be interesting to those who want to help NATO militaries better prepare for future conflicts.

The inspiration for this article arose from a number of conversations and seminars I held with military professionals from NATO countries after my return from Ukraine. It focuses on three areas that I was repeatedly asked about during these conversations. Of course, it is based on my personal observations of a limited segment in a huge war. That said, based on what I have read and heard from others, I have not included anything that I have reason to believe is not generally true of the entire conflict.

Although my criticism of the ZSU can, at times, seem trenchant, everything I say comes from a place of love. I am very grateful that I had the opportunity to serve in the ZSU. I have nothing but admiration for the pure grit of Ukrainian soldiers, which is the primary factor that has prevented the Russian invasion from achieving its aims. I will also not pretend to be a neutral observer of the Ukraine War. Quite frankly, I am disgusted that an authoritarian state can invade a democratic one in twenty-first-century Europe.

Infantry Tactics​

Media reports, as well as a number of my former NATO colleagues who train Ukrainian forces, have told me that Ukrainian infantry training with NATO often complain that the training they receive is not relevant to the Ukrainian battlefield. NATO tactics place emphasis on movement, while the war in Ukraine has descended into a stagnant conflict characterized by trenches and immobile front lines. Such staples of NATO small-unit tactics like patrolling, infiltration, ambushes, and raids are hardly used in Ukraine.

With a few exceptions (like the well-publicized battle of Bakhmut), most of the conflict along the 1000-km front line takes place in rural areas, so close-quarters battle and the tactics of military operations in urban terrain are also said to be useless. In most areas of this rural front, it is difficult for infantry to even approach enemy positions. Over the two years of mostly static conflict, these positions have been set up precisely to prevent that from happening. Trenches and bunkers with overlapping fields of fire, supported by minefields, make infantry operations difficult. When infantry comes into contact with the enemy, the most common type of tactical maneuver is the storming of trenches.

All that is true, with caveats. Despite the experience of two years of war, the tactical skills of the vast majority of Ukrainian forces that I observed are poor. Most soldiers are sent to the front line with practically no training in infantry tactics. This results in absurd and dangerous situations, like what happened regularly in my company when we were sent on our regular rotations on the front line. We would ride to the vehicle drop-off point, sometimes as many as thirty soldiers, on top of a BTR or an MT-LB. At the vehicle drop-off, we would all stand around for up to ten minutes, slowly unloading equipment and supplies. Carrying heavy loads, soldiers would slowly trickle forward to their positions in random groups of one, two, or more, often using white light to navigate treacherous tree lines. All of this occurred well within earshot of the nearest Russian position less than 500 meters away.

In a situation like this, any tactical training - whether immediately relevant or not - would be an improvement. At the very least, it would help soldiers develop a tactical mindset and reduce the risks associated with concentrations of soldiers, as well as individual soldiers getting lost or injured without anyone noticing for some time. In terms of tactics that are specifically useful on the Ukrainian front, classic NATO battle drills, e.g., knocking out bunkers, are still highly relevant, but they cannot be taught without at least some familiarity with the basics of tactical movement.

Though most of the combat occurs in rural areas, close-quarters battle can be applied beyond its original context, precisely in the storming of Russian trenches and fortifications. Many Russian trench lines have become highly sophisticated, with long networks of passages, often covered, and bunkers consisting of multiple rooms. In other words, Russian trenches now resemble the interior of buildings, and successfully storming them is no longer a simple drill.

Drones​

Drone warfare in the Ukraine War has received much attention and even casual observers have concluded that drones will be crucial in any future conflict. For a few months, I worked as a drone operator in my platoon, providing me with some insights into this specific type of operation.

First of all, to win any future wars, drones will be necessary. But to ensure bare survival on the battlefield, never mind winning, anti-drone capabilities will be crucial. Any movement of troops is already extremely difficult on the drone-infested front line in Ukraine. Troops are constantly exposed to attacks by armed drones that are more accurate, though usually less powerful, than artillery. Any unconcealed troops will quickly be detected and targeted. Hence, any development of drone capabilities must be accompanied by at least equal development of anti-drone capabilities.

On a more positive note, for defenders, despite the much-touted use of cheap, commercial drones, hiding from this type of drone is not too difficult. During the day, at realistic observation distances, such drones can usually only see soldiers if they are moving. The thousands of sexy drone videos that have come out of the Ukraine War notwithstanding, drones can rarely drop below 100m and usually cannot linger directly above their targets. This necessitates observation from a certain standoff distance and at an acute angle. In these situations, a simple but effective protection against drone observation is to stop moving and lie down. Making use of any kind of concealment, even leaning against a tree, is even better. There are, of course, high-end professional drones that have presumably better observation capabilities, but these are, for the time being, rare in Ukraine, and only sophisticated, rich militaries will be able to deploy them in large numbers in the near future.

During my time in Ukraine, my battalion decided that drones should be deployed as close to the front line as possible, within front-line platoons. This is why several members of each platoon, including myself, were selected to train as drone operators. Obviously, one of the reasons for this was to give infantry platoons flexibility in the use of drones. If we saw something suspicious in front of our position, we could immediately deploy the drone to investigate the threat without having to request support or explain on the radio what the drone operators were looking for.

There was, however, another reason why it was advantageous to put drone operators as close to the front line as possible. In our sector of the front, radio signals in the airspace above the Russian positions were permanently and effectively jammed by Russian electronic warfare systems. Flying drones above the Russian positions was difficult because the connection between the drone and control panel was unreliable. It was, therefore, advantageous to put the drone operator as close to the drone as possible, resulting in a stronger signal connecting the drone to the operator. In other words, putting the drone operator on the front line was supposed to allow us to fly further toward Russian positions and maintain better situational awareness. Generally, in future conflicts, it seems that in similar conditions of intense jamming, drone operators will have to move closer to the front line. This might include the operators of not only small tactical drones, but also of larger, more sophisticated systems.

Finally, during my time as a drone operator in Ukraine, I realized that drones must be treated as disposable assets. My company lost a drone, by very rough estimate, about once a month. Treating drones as disposable will, however, requires a major mindset change in NATO militaries. In my time in the Slovak Armed Forces, drones were treated as highly sensitive and specialized assets, even the relatively inexpensive commercial ones. Only select personnel could operate them, there were never enough, there was always a cumbersome bureaucratic process for their deployment, and the main concern in any drone operations was getting the drone back in one piece. With this mindset, the Ukrainian military would have long been screwed.

TLPs, MDMP, CONOPS, Load plans, CASEVAC plans, PowerPoint, whiteboards, briefings...it’s all necessary​

On a particularly unpleasant day during the Battle of Lyman in the fall of 2022, about twenty out of the fifty members of my company were killed or injured during an eight-hour period (I was one of them). The first batch of casualties was promptly evacuated by a light armored vehicle belonging to the company. Those injured after the first evacuation were less fortunate. No vehicle was available to perform the evacuation. A colleague had shrapnel wounds to his inner thigh, and we were worried that he was bleeding internally from his femoral artery into the cavity between his thigh muscles. He had to wait two hours for an evacuation. Fortunately, his bleeding was not as serious as we had feared, and he made a full recovery. If his femoral artery had, indeed, been hit, he would have been dead long before he had been taken off the battlefield. Others did die that day, though in those cases, faster evacuation would not have saved them.

How is it possible that the company’s vehicles -which had been available to perform an evacuation just a few minutes previously - had suddenly disappeared and we were left stranded in the field with a seriously wounded soldier and new casualties every few minutes?

It turns out that it was all a planning problem. Prior to the operation, the company had simply not prepared a casualty evacuation (CASEVAC) plan that detailed which vehicle was tasked with evacuating casualties. Hence, after the first evacuation, our light armored vehicle had simply gone off to do other tasks and a different vehicle had to be located.

In less dramatic fashion, one morning I was supposed to ride with a BTR from our base to a position whence I was to fly a drone. The commander of the company’s drone section assured me that the driver would load the drone into the BTR and would be waiting for me outside the building where I was quartered. As I emerged from the building at the specified time, I saw the BTR speeding away in the distance. The driver (who was the company sergeant-major) had simply forgotten me. I knew the route he was going to take, so after an intense run, I was able to head him off at an intersection a few minutes later. Boarding the BTR, I quickly realized he had also forgotten to load the drone. He had set off on his daily tasks quite oblivious that he was supposed to give me a ride.

At that point, I couldn’t help but fondly recall the big whiteboard in the hallway outside my company commander’s office in my former unit in Slovakia. That whiteboard detailed what each of the company’s vehicles was doing on any given day, who was driving it, who was riding in it, and what it was supposed to be carrying. Needless to say, the soldiers, and, secretly, probably a number officers, used to hate that whiteboard, as well as all the interminable meetings, PowerPoint presentations, load plans, CASEVAC plans, Concepts of Operations, and mission planning exercises based on Troop Leading Procedures and the Military Decision Making Process that seemed to take up so much of our time. We were not, after all, idiots. How hard could it be to keep track of a few vehicles, a few boxes of ammunition, or a couple of soldiers?

In light of the events described above, my time in Ukraine gave me a new appreciation for all of these time-wasting bureaucratic tasks, whose main purpose can be summed up as preventing fuck-ups. Unfortunately, the ZSU does not seem to share my enthusiasm for planning, sometimes to the very real detriment of its soldiers and operations. At any given time, most soldiers had only a very hazy idea of the broader situation around them or even of their mission.

Planning was usually limited to crude diagrams and tables scribbled by the platoon commander in ballpoint pen on a piece of notepaper. Though the planning processes developed by NATO militaries can occasionally be a bit time-consuming, they are not complicated. Quite the opposite. They are specifically designed to give soldiers and officers, some of whom may not be the sharpest knives in their respective drawers, a simple, systematic, routine way to avoid preventable problems. You can learn to make a rudimentary CASEVAC plan in fifteen minutes, but in Ukraine, it almost took the life of a soldier for the company command to start thinking about it.
 

trenchfoot

Lifer
Aug 5, 2000
14,669
7,165
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Dickless fascism fanbois demonstrating their afflictions in public leaves such a foulness in the air here. The dishonesty, the snarky indifference to families being wiped out, the adoration of brutality, ugh. I will try and freshen things up with a nice article from someone who was actually there in the middle of it.

Jakub Jajcay, a Slovak who went to help defend Ukraine from Putin's invasion two summers ago, uploaded this today. A good read, covers some details that I haven't heard elsewhere. Confirms other
data and also stresses some operational issues that I hope get some attention.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------


In August 2022, I became a rifleman in an infantry battalion of the Ukrainian Armed Forces (Zbroyny Sily Ukrainy, ZSU). Over the course of the following year, I would spend a total of ten months fighting with the unit on the front lines in the Kharkiv, Donetsk, and Luhansk Oblasts. Before joining the ZSU, I had been a Ph.D. student in political science and before that an officer in the Armed Forces of the Slovak Republic. My time in the trenches gave me certain insights into the war that, I hope, might be useful to readers who want to gain a better understanding of the most important armed conflict of our lifetimes. They might also be interesting to those who want to help NATO militaries better prepare for future conflicts.

The inspiration for this article arose from a number of conversations and seminars I held with military professionals from NATO countries after my return from Ukraine. It focuses on three areas that I was repeatedly asked about during these conversations. Of course, it is based on my personal observations of a limited segment in a huge war. That said, based on what I have read and heard from others, I have not included anything that I have reason to believe is not generally true of the entire conflict.

Although my criticism of the ZSU can, at times, seem trenchant, everything I say comes from a place of love. I am very grateful that I had the opportunity to serve in the ZSU. I have nothing but admiration for the pure grit of Ukrainian soldiers, which is the primary factor that has prevented the Russian invasion from achieving its aims. I will also not pretend to be a neutral observer of the Ukraine War. Quite frankly, I am disgusted that an authoritarian state can invade a democratic one in twenty-first-century Europe.

Infantry Tactics​

Media reports, as well as a number of my former NATO colleagues who train Ukrainian forces, have told me that Ukrainian infantry training with NATO often complain that the training they receive is not relevant to the Ukrainian battlefield. NATO tactics place emphasis on movement, while the war in Ukraine has descended into a stagnant conflict characterized by trenches and immobile front lines. Such staples of NATO small-unit tactics like patrolling, infiltration, ambushes, and raids are hardly used in Ukraine.

With a few exceptions (like the well-publicized battle of Bakhmut), most of the conflict along the 1000-km front line takes place in rural areas, so close-quarters battle and the tactics of military operations in urban terrain are also said to be useless. In most areas of this rural front, it is difficult for infantry to even approach enemy positions. Over the two years of mostly static conflict, these positions have been set up precisely to prevent that from happening. Trenches and bunkers with overlapping fields of fire, supported by minefields, make infantry operations difficult. When infantry comes into contact with the enemy, the most common type of tactical maneuver is the storming of trenches.

All that is true, with caveats. Despite the experience of two years of war, the tactical skills of the vast majority of Ukrainian forces that I observed are poor. Most soldiers are sent to the front line with practically no training in infantry tactics. This results in absurd and dangerous situations, like what happened regularly in my company when we were sent on our regular rotations on the front line. We would ride to the vehicle drop-off point, sometimes as many as thirty soldiers, on top of a BTR or an MT-LB. At the vehicle drop-off, we would all stand around for up to ten minutes, slowly unloading equipment and supplies. Carrying heavy loads, soldiers would slowly trickle forward to their positions in random groups of one, two, or more, often using white light to navigate treacherous tree lines. All of this occurred well within earshot of the nearest Russian position less than 500 meters away.

In a situation like this, any tactical training - whether immediately relevant or not - would be an improvement. At the very least, it would help soldiers develop a tactical mindset and reduce the risks associated with concentrations of soldiers, as well as individual soldiers getting lost or injured without anyone noticing for some time. In terms of tactics that are specifically useful on the Ukrainian front, classic NATO battle drills, e.g., knocking out bunkers, are still highly relevant, but they cannot be taught without at least some familiarity with the basics of tactical movement.

Though most of the combat occurs in rural areas, close-quarters battle can be applied beyond its original context, precisely in the storming of Russian trenches and fortifications. Many Russian trench lines have become highly sophisticated, with long networks of passages, often covered, and bunkers consisting of multiple rooms. In other words, Russian trenches now resemble the interior of buildings, and successfully storming them is no longer a simple drill.

Drones​

Drone warfare in the Ukraine War has received much attention and even casual observers have concluded that drones will be crucial in any future conflict. For a few months, I worked as a drone operator in my platoon, providing me with some insights into this specific type of operation.

First of all, to win any future wars, drones will be necessary. But to ensure bare survival on the battlefield, never mind winning, anti-drone capabilities will be crucial. Any movement of troops is already extremely difficult on the drone-infested front line in Ukraine. Troops are constantly exposed to attacks by armed drones that are more accurate, though usually less powerful, than artillery. Any unconcealed troops will quickly be detected and targeted. Hence, any development of drone capabilities must be accompanied by at least equal development of anti-drone capabilities.

On a more positive note, for defenders, despite the much-touted use of cheap, commercial drones, hiding from this type of drone is not too difficult. During the day, at realistic observation distances, such drones can usually only see soldiers if they are moving. The thousands of sexy drone videos that have come out of the Ukraine War notwithstanding, drones can rarely drop below 100m and usually cannot linger directly above their targets. This necessitates observation from a certain standoff distance and at an acute angle. In these situations, a simple but effective protection against drone observation is to stop moving and lie down. Making use of any kind of concealment, even leaning against a tree, is even better. There are, of course, high-end professional drones that have presumably better observation capabilities, but these are, for the time being, rare in Ukraine, and only sophisticated, rich militaries will be able to deploy them in large numbers in the near future.

During my time in Ukraine, my battalion decided that drones should be deployed as close to the front line as possible, within front-line platoons. This is why several members of each platoon, including myself, were selected to train as drone operators. Obviously, one of the reasons for this was to give infantry platoons flexibility in the use of drones. If we saw something suspicious in front of our position, we could immediately deploy the drone to investigate the threat without having to request support or explain on the radio what the drone operators were looking for.

There was, however, another reason why it was advantageous to put drone operators as close to the front line as possible. In our sector of the front, radio signals in the airspace above the Russian positions were permanently and effectively jammed by Russian electronic warfare systems. Flying drones above the Russian positions was difficult because the connection between the drone and control panel was unreliable. It was, therefore, advantageous to put the drone operator as close to the drone as possible, resulting in a stronger signal connecting the drone to the operator. In other words, putting the drone operator on the front line was supposed to allow us to fly further toward Russian positions and maintain better situational awareness. Generally, in future conflicts, it seems that in similar conditions of intense jamming, drone operators will have to move closer to the front line. This might include the operators of not only small tactical drones, but also of larger, more sophisticated systems.

Finally, during my time as a drone operator in Ukraine, I realized that drones must be treated as disposable assets. My company lost a drone, by very rough estimate, about once a month. Treating drones as disposable will, however, requires a major mindset change in NATO militaries. In my time in the Slovak Armed Forces, drones were treated as highly sensitive and specialized assets, even the relatively inexpensive commercial ones. Only select personnel could operate them, there were never enough, there was always a cumbersome bureaucratic process for their deployment, and the main concern in any drone operations was getting the drone back in one piece. With this mindset, the Ukrainian military would have long been screwed.

TLPs, MDMP, CONOPS, Load plans, CASEVAC plans, PowerPoint, whiteboards, briefings...it’s all necessary​

On a particularly unpleasant day during the Battle of Lyman in the fall of 2022, about twenty out of the fifty members of my company were killed or injured during an eight-hour period (I was one of them). The first batch of casualties was promptly evacuated by a light armored vehicle belonging to the company. Those injured after the first evacuation were less fortunate. No vehicle was available to perform the evacuation. A colleague had shrapnel wounds to his inner thigh, and we were worried that he was bleeding internally from his femoral artery into the cavity between his thigh muscles. He had to wait two hours for an evacuation. Fortunately, his bleeding was not as serious as we had feared, and he made a full recovery. If his femoral artery had, indeed, been hit, he would have been dead long before he had been taken off the battlefield. Others did die that day, though in those cases, faster evacuation would not have saved them.

How is it possible that the company’s vehicles -which had been available to perform an evacuation just a few minutes previously - had suddenly disappeared and we were left stranded in the field with a seriously wounded soldier and new casualties every few minutes?

It turns out that it was all a planning problem. Prior to the operation, the company had simply not prepared a casualty evacuation (CASEVAC) plan that detailed which vehicle was tasked with evacuating casualties. Hence, after the first evacuation, our light armored vehicle had simply gone off to do other tasks and a different vehicle had to be located.

In less dramatic fashion, one morning I was supposed to ride with a BTR from our base to a position whence I was to fly a drone. The commander of the company’s drone section assured me that the driver would load the drone into the BTR and would be waiting for me outside the building where I was quartered. As I emerged from the building at the specified time, I saw the BTR speeding away in the distance. The driver (who was the company sergeant-major) had simply forgotten me. I knew the route he was going to take, so after an intense run, I was able to head him off at an intersection a few minutes later. Boarding the BTR, I quickly realized he had also forgotten to load the drone. He had set off on his daily tasks quite oblivious that he was supposed to give me a ride.

At that point, I couldn’t help but fondly recall the big whiteboard in the hallway outside my company commander’s office in my former unit in Slovakia. That whiteboard detailed what each of the company’s vehicles was doing on any given day, who was driving it, who was riding in it, and what it was supposed to be carrying. Needless to say, the soldiers, and, secretly, probably a number officers, used to hate that whiteboard, as well as all the interminable meetings, PowerPoint presentations, load plans, CASEVAC plans, Concepts of Operations, and mission planning exercises based on Troop Leading Procedures and the Military Decision Making Process that seemed to take up so much of our time. We were not, after all, idiots. How hard could it be to keep track of a few vehicles, a few boxes of ammunition, or a couple of soldiers?

In light of the events described above, my time in Ukraine gave me a new appreciation for all of these time-wasting bureaucratic tasks, whose main purpose can be summed up as preventing fuck-ups. Unfortunately, the ZSU does not seem to share my enthusiasm for planning, sometimes to the very real detriment of its soldiers and operations. At any given time, most soldiers had only a very hazy idea of the broader situation around them or even of their mission.

Planning was usually limited to crude diagrams and tables scribbled by the platoon commander in ballpoint pen on a piece of notepaper. Though the planning processes developed by NATO militaries can occasionally be a bit time-consuming, they are not complicated. Quite the opposite. They are specifically designed to give soldiers and officers, some of whom may not be the sharpest knives in their respective drawers, a simple, systematic, routine way to avoid preventable problems. You can learn to make a rudimentary CASEVAC plan in fifteen minutes, but in Ukraine, it almost took the life of a soldier for the company command to start thinking about it.

One of the problems that occurred in my unit was a problem with the planners in the rear always playing one move behind what was happening at the line. Add to that was a problem with a couple of authoritarian types sticking with their planning that was obsolete from the get-go because they refused to believe that 'ol adage about a plan not surviving first contact with the enemy.

The RTO's were the unsung heroes of it all, sometimes relying on their own initiative to recommend actions due to their CO's being killed or wounded, this because they were in fine tune with what their boss' intentions were all along. While I was awaiting orders, I watched an RTO at the company level in some heavy shit conduct his comms like a conductor directing his symphony, he and the other RTO's he was in contact with had memorized a half dozen call signs (oftentimes more) that changed daily if not by the hour, authenticating, receiving/sending, connecting hand off's and relaying calls smooth like butter. It was really cool observing these guys plying their trade.
 
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Young Grasshopper

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-I don't understand why it's taken Russia so long to win this war then.

I mean, clearly with such a superior military Russia should have ended this conflict a year ago with a decisive across the board victory and spared many Ukrainian lives with an unambiguous uncontestable quick victory.

Are Russians cruelly playing with their victim before delivering the death stroke?


You mean like how NATO, coalition of 30+ countries, quickly and decisively defeated the Taliban? Oh wait…They fought the Taliban for 20+ years, and in the end got shown the door by the Taliban commanders. Even gave them a deadline to GTFO of the country. All by a government without a single plane, tank or boat.

Unlike NATO, Russia is making progress in their war.


Wars take time bud. Need to slowly grind down the resistance so once the resistance is gone, there will be no more resistance once they move in.
 
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fskimospy

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You mean like how NATO, coalition of 30+ countries, quickly and decisively defeated the Taliban? Oh wait…They fought the Taliban for 20+ years, and in the end got shown the door by the Taliban commanders. Even gave them a deadline to GTFO of the country. All by a government without a single plane, tank or boat.

Unlike NATO, Russia is making progress in their war.


Wars take time bud. Need to slowly grind down the resistance so once the resistance is gone, there will be no more resistance once they move in.
NATO did quickly and decisively defeat the Taliban. What it ran into problems with was the insurgency that followed as conventional military power is much harder to use in that scenario.

Russia can't even get to the insurgency part, lol.
 

GodisanAtheist

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You mean like how NATO, coalition of 30+ countries, quickly and decisively defeated the Taliban? Oh wait…They fought the Taliban for 20+ years, and in the end got shown the door by the Taliban commanders. Even gave them a deadline to GTFO of the country. All by a government without a single plane, tank or boat.

Unlike NATO, Russia is making progress in their war.


Wars take time bud. Need to slowly grind down the resistance so once the resistance is gone, there will be no more resistance once they move in.

- Correct, the US militarily defeated the Taliban government in Kabul within weeks, and drove the Taliban out of the country relegating it to hit and run + IED attacks for 20+ years. Mind you, this is a landlocked country on the other side of the world, not even a country we share a 1000 mile border with like Russia does with Ukraine.

The US was not waging pitched battles for territory a year into the Afghan conflict, or in Iraq 2... or even in Iraq 1. All of the established governments fell within a month of two, and the US gained military supremacy over the entire country within that time.

Why hasn't Russia done the same with Ukraine? Are they deliberately trying to increase the amount of suffering the Ukrainians have to live through? They can counquer the country within weeks with their superior military and stop NATO in its tracks but they choose not to. Why?
 
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