Russia on brink of ... NOPE! Russia INVADES Ukraine!

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K1052

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A ship is a ship and they all cost Vlad money, but I wish they'd hit higher and more important ships.


These things are basically impossible for the Russians to replace themselves. The class was built in Poland. This is why they tried to buy Mistral class ships from the French for billions but the deal died when Putin annexed Crimea in 2014.
 
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itsmydamnation

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kage69

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A ship is a ship and they all cost Vlad money, but I wish they'd hit higher and more important ships.


Yeah any vessel able to carry supplies to Crimea is an important ship. Logistics just isn't their strong suit. Russians were using a damn tug to deliver food and ammo to Snake Island for awhile, right up until it got Harpooned.

The irreplaceable Black Sea Fleet will someday just be a collection of damaged hulls and artificial reefs. Any Russians not out of Crimea by then will wish they hadn't stayed.
 
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Jaskalas

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I am unaware of the USA or any nation giving nuclear weapons to any countries. I thought that all nations with nuclear weapons had developed them themselves. Um, perhaps with a "little help?" But I'm unaware of that.
Your reply seems to be a strange read on "they must be given".
That future tense is to suggest a course of action. A suggestion of something that we should do.
 

APU_Fusion

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Just give Putin a chance everyone. He is misunderstood woke. His killing of innocents is reducing greenhouse emissions by reducing population. I mean why are the Democrats so upset. They are communist, fascist, socialists like he is? Help me understand?
 

Young Grasshopper

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- Correct, the US militarily defeated the Taliban government in Kabul within weeks, and drove the Taliban out of the country relegating it to hit and run + IED attacks for 20+ years. Mind you, this is a landlocked country on the other side of the world, not even a country we share a 1000 mile border with like Russia does with Ukraine.

The US was not waging pitched battles for territory a year into the Afghan conflict, or in Iraq 2... or even in Iraq 1. All of the established governments fell within a month of two, and the US gained military supremacy over the entire country within that time.

Defeated the Taliban within weeks, but continue to get attacked by the Taliban for the next 20 years.

😅

Anyone remember when the Taliban gave the US a deadline to get out of the country?


The Taliban will not agree to an extension of the evacuation mission from Afghanistan and is “warning of consequences” if it is prolonged beyond its deadline.

The move would mean “extending occupation” and that is “a red line”, Suhail Shaheen, a member of the Taliban delegation in Doha, the capital of Qatar, said on Monday.

How is it possible that a ‘defeated’ military is making these kinds of demands while US troops are still present? Kind of makes you wonder who was really in charge of Afghanistan doesn’t it?

But if you guys want to convince yourself that the NATO won this war, go right ahead if it makes you feel better.

By the way, they killed 13 US service members on their way out. That’s what ‘winning’ looks like.

If the US had gained ‘military supremacy’, they’d still be there. The US got its ass handed to them over 20 years so they decided to take their ball and go home. Guess all those fancy planes, ships and tanks couldn’t defeat an army of illiterate goat herders. Says a lot about the strength of NATO.
 

fskimospy

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Defeated the Taliban within weeks, but continue to get attacked by the Taliban for the next 20 years.

😅

Anyone remember when the Taliban gave the US a deadline to get out of the country?




How is it possible that a ‘defeated’ military is making these kinds of demands while US troops are still present? Kind of makes you wonder who was really in charge of Afghanistan doesn’t it?

But if you guys want to convince yourself that the NATO won this war, go right ahead if it makes you feel better.

By the way, they killed 13 US service members on their way out. That’s what ‘winning’ looks like.

If the US had gained ‘military supremacy’, they’d still be there. The US got its ass handed to them over 20 years so they decided to take their ball and go home. Guess all those fancy planes, ships and tanks couldn’t defeat an army of illiterate goat herders. Says a lot about the strength of NATO.
lol the cope is so strong. It’s ok bud, if you need a hug just let me know.
 

GodisanAtheist

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Defeated the Taliban within weeks, but continue to get attacked by the Taliban for the next 20 years.

😅

Anyone remember when the Taliban gave the US a deadline to get out of the country?




How is it possible that a ‘defeated’ military is making these kinds of demands while US troops are still present? Kind of makes you wonder who was really in charge of Afghanistan doesn’t it?

But if you guys want to convince yourself that the NATO won this war, go right ahead if it makes you feel better.

By the way, they killed 13 US service members on their way out. That’s what ‘winning’ looks like.

If the US had gained ‘military supremacy’, they’d still be there. The US got its ass handed to them over 20 years so they decided to take their ball and go home. Guess all those fancy planes, ships and tanks couldn’t defeat an army of illiterate goat herders. Says a lot about the strength of NATO.

- Russia: Militarily, Economically, Culturally, Spiritually, and Technologically superior to the Ukranians, can literally annex a huge portion of Ukranian territory, but can't topple the Ukranian government in two years of fighting.

Do you think it will take another 20 years for Russia to leave Ukraine or only 2?

Bear in mind the entire Soviet Union only lasted 69 years... (Coincidentally, in 1991 the average life expectancy of a Russian was also 69 years old )
 
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you2

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Such a great place to live ....

Putin signs law to confiscate assets of those convicted of discrediting the Russian army

ABC|12 hours ago
Russian President Vladimir Putin has signed a law that will allow authorities to confiscate money, valuables and other assets from people convicted of spreading "deliberately false information" about ...
The catch-22 is that telling the truth is considered discrediting the Army. I.,e., saying that russia has between 100 and 200 thousand kia and wounded would be consider discrediting the army under Russia weird form of logic. Really bizzare place but what do you expect from a place that can shoot you in the head for well just about anything including taking a piss.
 

kage69

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Defeated the Taliban within weeks, but continue to get attacked by the Taliban for the next 20 years.

😅

Anyone remember when the Taliban gave the US a deadline to get out of the country?




How is it possible that a ‘defeated’ military is making these kinds of demands while US troops are still present? Kind of makes you wonder who was really in charge of Afghanistan doesn’t it?

But if you guys want to convince yourself that the NATO won this war, go right ahead if it makes you feel better.

By the way, they killed 13 US service members on their way out. That’s what ‘winning’ looks like.

If the US had gained ‘military supremacy’, they’d still be there. The US got its ass handed to them over 20 years so they decided to take their ball and go home. Guess all those fancy planes, ships and tanks couldn’t defeat an army of illiterate goat herders. Says a lot about the strength of NATO.

The butthurt about Afghanistan is so persistent with you. This is what, the fifth or sixth time you've posted pretty much exactly that? Still as weak as the first time too.

*sigh* One more time for the dumbass who knows nothing but propaganda unit wet dreams:



The location was similar, but that was about it.

The Russians were hated for their tactics, they created 5 and a half million Afghan refugees. Funny how that didn't happen with NATO. And the part you just hate: Russians had triple the losses of the Americans, in less than half the time. The US and NATO got bored, OBL got his canoe in 2011. Lots of Americans, myself included, wanted to bring it all home immediately thereafter fwiw. Washington eventually wanted to devote more money to getting ready for the coming Chinese 'SMO,' and rightly so. We got the guy, mission accomplished. The presence wasn't worth the cost just to keep tabs and pressure on Iran, trade blows with the Haqqani. The American public/taxpayer ultimately had more to do with the exit than the Taliban did. *womp womp* It's ok, I'm sure you can find another fantasy to believe in. Personally I thought it telling so many Afghans wanted to leave with our people, wish it could have been more. Remember the mob of Afghans and Hazaras who begged the Russians to take them along back to Russia? Yeah I don't either. *whispers* It was a shithole then too

You know it's funny to hear Russians crow about Afghanistan when they couldn't touch Ahmad Shah Massoud, who whooped their asses campaign after campaign. Probably the most effective modern guerilla leader in the world, at the time and since. It took OBL to take out Massoud. And then, after a long hunt, we took out OBL. *wets fingertip, marks air* Yeah the US record in Afghanistan ain't great, but at least it ain't Russia's.

Anyway no, what says a lot about the strength of NATO is the actual strength of NATO. That it continues to grow, become more potent. Meanwhile Russia has lost more than 50% of it's land power and can't build shit without help. NATO now owns the Baltic dipshit, both Kaliningrad and Murmansk are pretty much neutered. St. Petersburg is just a hop, skip and a jump from superior NATO precision weapons and training. It's inconvenient data for a person in your line of work though, we get it, but the repetitive nature of your constant history fails is becoming a tired joke. I think I stopped laughing on attempt three or four, I forget. If you're going to keep doing this I'd appreciate a little more creativity.

But yes, keep fapping away cyka. That's what winning in Russia looks like.
 
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kage69

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Quick read on Ukraine's use of an acoustic network to detect drone attacks, how the US military will be getting in on it. Cool stuff.

Looks like the US and NATO will get to benefit from a refined, modern technology honed against current Russian weapons and tactics. I am definitely a fan of seeing the US military continue to get a firmer grip on the drone defense issue. We're going to need a variety of robust and proven solutions ready to go soon. Networked acoustic sensing, directed energy weapons able to handle swarms, and vehicles with say a cannon and APKWS combo. Something with laser and mm wave for targeting. No heatseekers.

A bunch of guys with GPS/INS jamming "rifles" ain't gonna cut it.
 
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JTsyo

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I am unaware of the USA or any nation giving nuclear weapons to any countries. I thought that all nations with nuclear weapons had developed them themselves. Um, perhaps with a "little help?" But I'm unaware of that.
There's a middle ground with NATO nuclear umbrella/ nuclear sharing. This was done to prevent nuclear proliferation. This means nuclear attack on non-nuclear NATO members result in retaliation from nuclear armed members. There's also US nuclear weapons in other countries and the aircraft of those nations can carry US weapons.
 
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cytg111

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Was just thinking, I must have heard a thousand variations of this “thought experiment” : If you had a time machine would you go back and kill Hitler?
Though all anyone right now has is this device going forward in time one second per second. Ish. Eh what can you do.
 

fskimospy

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Was just thinking, I must have heard a thousand variations of this “thought experiment” : If you had a time machine would you go back and kill Hitler?
Though all anyone right now has is this device going forward in time one second per second. Ish. Eh what can you do.
Someone once brought up a good point about this though. Maybe the reason why Hitler was antisemitic was that throughout his life time travelers kept showing up and trying to kill him saying ‘this is to save the Jews’ or whatever.
 
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K1052

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Was just thinking, I must have heard a thousand variations of this “thought experiment” : If you had a time machine would you go back and kill Hitler?
Though all anyone right now has is this device going forward in time one second per second. Ish. Eh what can you do.

If suddenly Doc Brown's DeLorean was sitting in my parking space the absolute first thing I am doing is going back to the 1940s to hit Roy Cohn with it.
 
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