Ukrainians are fierce and brave fighters, no doubt. They have the right to defend their country if they feel it is invaded. I have said it before but Ukraine to me is the best land force military in Europe. It's not just weapons alone, it's the fierceness and bravery too that counts. I don't know any other military who can do what the Ukrainians have done, by fighting very hard in very bad conditions.I don't really see that Ukraine has any other option to resist. Russia has already shown what it does when it occupies parts of Ukrainian territory, they murder, rape and loot. If your option is either die or resist, Ukraine has chosen to resist.
Now the west has to make a decision if we honor the sacrifices of those Ukrainians by giving them the weapons and munitions to defeat the Russian invaders.
We will see but a country without any industry, like Ukraine
"Don't pay attention to the part I don't like, pay attention to this over here instead!"Instead of talking about specific tanks or equipment, the important thing to talk about are the conditions on the battlefield, morale and ability to bring new troops into the battle. All of which Ukraine is at a huge disadvantage and this disadvantage is growing every day. You can talk about T-55 or T-62 tanks but when Ukraine is falling apart, that does not matter. Even the biased Western media is regularly saying that Ukraine is having a very hard time. If you can trust these people, that means the T-55 is largely irrelevant to this topic.
And that more modern tanks ... the so-called Western magic weapons? None of them has made much difference since Ukraine is unable to make any counterattack. Last years spring offensive was a failure and back then Ukraine did not have the manpower shortage it is having now.
The only way to solve these issues are either by rounding up Ukrainian men in Poland, Germany and other countries and sending them back or allowing Western mercenaries in. And given the desperate status of Ukraine's eastern areas, any new soldiers will be having a short training period. That is bad because you need well trained men to use these Western magical weapons, very modern I hear.
Yeah this is right, they were a very important part of the Soviet Union but that proves the point that Russians and Ukrainians are Slavic brothers. Ukraine was a key player in Soviet security strategy, such as manufacturing and design. For example, KMDB is a Ukrainian tank maker that built the T-80 tank along with other tanks. But then again, in today's Ukraine, the industry has collapsed.Ukraine produced vast amounts of armaments for the Soviet Union and continued to have a substantial arms industry after the fall. This is simply and totally untrue.
Ok then you can believe what you wish."Don't pay attention to the part I don't like, pay attention to this over here instead!"
If you aren’t seeing this then you’re consuming too much Russian propaganda. You don’t have to take my word for it, you can see testimonials from Russian troops all over about how bad the situation is. The Russians themselves talk about being sacrificed in meat assaults.Poorly trained and poorly equipped Russian soldiers. That is quite odd from what I have seen. I am not saying you are wrong though maybe some units in some obscure roles might be poorly equipped?
I didn’t say it has been drained - I said they have resorted to using obsolete equipment due to massive casualties. They aren’t using obsolete tanks because they want to, they are using them because they have to.We will see but I don't agree that Russia, a huge military power, has been drained. Can it be low on stock on some things? Yes but it has millions of rounds of artillery, thousands of tanks, etc. And it is now coming into the drone age after kind of ignoring it for a while.
In 2022 Ukraine defeated Russia’s initial attack with minimal western help. It’s true that back then we all bought into the idea that Russia’s military was that secret ‘actually good’ army you guys keep waiting to be unleashed.We will see but a country without any industry, like Ukraine, will be defeated rapidly if Western support is stopped or even reduced.
If you think the Russian military stands a chance against the US military in a conventional, stand up fight, you are delusional.Even if you say that Russian equipment is junk, they still outproduce the West by many factors. This means something in warfare because sometimes you need stuff that works. The plus is that it is relatively inexpensive compared to expensive Western weapons. Different opinions, right? No problem, we can all have them.
The Ukrainians disagree with your idea of Slavic brotherhood - probably due to firsthand knowledge over centuries of what Russian ‘brotherhood’ entails.Yeah this is right, they were a very important part of the Soviet Union but that proves the point that Russians and Ukrainians are Slavic brothers. Ukraine was a key player in Soviet security strategy, such as manufacturing and design. For example, KMDB is a Ukrainian tank maker that built the T-80 tank along with other tanks. But then again, in today's Ukraine, the industry has collapsed.
Yeah this is right, they were a very important part of the Soviet Union but that proves the point that Russians and Ukrainians are Slavic brothers. Ukraine was a key player in Soviet security strategy, such as manufacturing and design. For example, KMDB is a Ukrainian tank maker that built the T-80 tank along with other tanks. But then again, in today's Ukraine, the industry has collapsed.
This is the reaction of a people who have had THEIR LAND invaded.It's not just weapons alone, it's the fierceness and bravery too that counts. I don't know any other military who can do what the Ukrainians have done, by fighting very hard in very bad conditions.
The Ukrainians disagree with your idea of Slavic brotherhood - probably due to firsthand knowledge over centuries of what Russian ‘brotherhood’ entails.
You are not going to mention the famous Antonov planes?!Lol no.
Ukraine retained a meaningful knowledge and capacity, what it lacked was investment since they didn't have Russia's oil and gas money to rely on. The produced many fine products like the Neptune missile for example which sunk another Ukrainian product that was in Russian service: the Moskva.
You are not going to mention the famous Antonov planes?!
‘You are my brother and if you disagree I will exterminate you and everyone you love’ doesn’t seem super brotherly to me.Nobody has done more to forge the concept of a modern Ukrainian identity than Putin. Few staring down the barrels of firing Russian guns have any illusions about "brotherhood".
So when did you fall victim to Vladimirs undeniable charm?You are not going to mention the famous Antonov planes?!
I guess Putin is gonna subvert abortion rights as well… No sane woman in Russia is gonna give birth to any new males…
Hopefully they are depleting experienced pilots because they are replacing the planes.So, seven Sukhois brought down in the last 2 weeks or so? And now maybe another A-50? *Takei* Oh my
Don't drown your sorrows too much VKS, it could be worse. You could be in a T-55 and have to go up against an Abrams. Anyone doing that better be wearing the brown pants.
Some combat losses have been offset by production deliveries. Russian industry delivered at least six Su-34NVOs to the VKS in 2023, according to figures in The Military Balance 2024, and the air force likely received the final batch of 24 Su-34NVO aircraft ordered in June 2020. This Fullback variant appears to be an interim between the original Su-34M and a more extensive modernisation of the aircraft. The VKS also received no less than ten Su-35 Flanker M multi-role fighters in 2023, along with two two-seat Su-30SM2 Flanker Hs – an upgraded version of the Su-30SM, with an improved radar and the capacity to use a broader range of weapons. Two more were delivered to the naval aviation arm.
It's also like, these are the West's weapons from the end of the Cold War through the 90s. Russia should be relieved we haven't been sending much of the newer stuff.Who talked about ‘magical’ weapons? It’s a fact that western weapons are far superior to Russia’s because Russian equipment is mostly junk, but it’s not enough to win on its own.
The equipment provided by the west and the US has been disproportionately effective though, yes. Remember the absolute devastation caused by a handful of HIMARS launchers? True this was augmented by Russian incompetence but still Russia has no response.
Hopefully they are depleting experienced pilots because they are replacing the planes.
Better than what they've been able to do with the Armata, Terminator and Su-57 failures I suppose. Still, for a supposedly world class leading military power "not at all affected by sanctions" and at war, those are some weak ass rookie numbers. Gotta pump those numbers boys!
Russian production quality sucks ass more than usual now btw. I forget the guys channel but he had footage of a close up of a Felon pilot prepping for take off, the top of the canopy had several very large air bubbles in the glass. Non uniform in shape and size, clearly defects. Ridiculous. A fake one-trick pony they can't afford, about as combat effective as Iran's stealth fighter, far as I can tell. Russians are still smarting over Kinzhals getting dropped, losing their "5th gen" fighter in Ukraine would be even more embarrassing. Can't have that export business get stomped in the nuts anymore now can we?
That production rate seems like one Ukraine can negate easily over the course of a year, at the current pace. I imagine we'll see them do it.
Weren't they giving medals to women who had 10 babies?
Huh? Russians value human life less than the Nazi's?-Damn, even Nazi mom's had it easier, only 4 kids for a medal. Inflation is a bitch.
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