Russia on brink of ... NOPE! Russia INVADES Ukraine!

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cytg111

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Lol


"All Russian men from age 18 to 27 (or age 18-30 starting on January 1, 2024) must serve one year in the military. However, a large number avoid the draft for health reasons or deferments granted to university students."

The last boost was back in 2022 which effectively means that if you were 28 back then... then GOTCHA and if you were otherwise excused cause education or otherwise 26-27 then also GOTCHA. TO THE MEAT GRINDER IVAN.
 

fskimospy

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Russia right now is fighting against NATO and America, who are trying to destroy it. Very different situation even though you shamelessly try to bring Gaza and Ukraine into the same sentence. And if you really want to bring Gaza into this, well to be honest, it is America also committing genocide there as well. So you have a losing argument on all sides. It is American bombs falling and killing thousands of innocent civilians in Gaza. It is America taxpayer money in Israel and it is American spare parts for the fighter jets - all designed to commit genocide.

Tell me, Ukraine lost almost all its weapons in the first few months of the war. Since then, it is all Western stuff. This means that Russia views this as the West vs Russia. Does Russia surrender and go home? No, it has made it clear no NATO membership to Ukraine and Georgia, as was shown in the previous invasion. You don't like it? Well, that's their neighborhood. You don't like Cuba being communist so you have destroyed their economy for many decades through sanctions. And even have a military base there so Russia or China cannot get involved. Let's have some fair standards. I do not see China setting up base in Mexico and if it did, we will see American invasion of Mexico today.
Russia is only fighting against the country it invaded without provocation.

Like I said before you are a giant hypocrite. You don’t actually care about genocide because if you did you would be full force against Russian genocide.

Can you come out and say that Russia is evil and their unprovoked invasion should be resisted by the entire world?
 

raildogg

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Russia is only fighting against the country it invaded without provocation.

Like I said before you are a giant hypocrite. You don’t actually care about genocide because if you did you would be full force against Russian genocide.

Can you come out and say that Russia is evil and their unprovoked invasion should be resisted by the entire world?
Provocation? America has been arming Ukraine since 2015 and has military people there. America has used anti-Russia language for all these years and America wanted to bring Ukraine into NATO, through various means, including creating coups in Ukraine. Removing elected pro-Russia politicians. Yes, you are right ... absolutely no provocation at all.
 
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raildogg

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If we were actually in a fight with the Russians they would be begging for it to stop.
Then what is holding back the US? We know its not care for human life because all the previous many wars have shown, America is a war criminal of the highest order. Oh I know, they are using poor Slavic Ukrainian people as cannon fodder to use against Russia. Great job.
 

raildogg

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Russian reserves of old shit are strong.
Well, Avdiivka has fallen and so are some of the surrounding villages. Now the Russians can either wait for the Ukrainians to come or they can advance more West. They are the ones who will decide how the war is fought because Ukraine is losing. Lockheed Martin weapons are not going to save Ukraine. They will make US politicians very wealthy but that is it. Ukrainians should realize that America is not their friend and should come to the table to talk with Russia.

Maybe China or some other country can negotiate some peace, who knows. Maybe Turkey even?
 

K1052

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Then what is holding back the US? We know its not care for human life because all the previous many wars have shown, America is a war criminal of the highest order. Oh I know, they are using poor Slavic Ukrainian people are cannon fodder to use against Russia. Great job.

Becoming directly involved has excessive escalatory risks. The Russians know this well given their covert participation in hostilities against the US in various wars, it was essential not to have it come out.
 

feralkid

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Provocation? America has been arming Ukraine since 2015 and has military people there. America has used anti-Russia language for all these years and America wanted to bring Ukraine into NATO, through various means, including creating coups in Ukraine. Removing elected pro-Russia politicians. Yes, you are right ... absolutely no provocation at all.
Gee whiz, what happened right before 2015?

What a maroon.
 

raildogg

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Meanwhile, Russian advancements are slow and steady. No need to rush because they are the ones who are deciding this war. The West and their Ukrainian proxies are simply reacting.

"In the south Donetsk direction, units of the Battlegroup East improved their forward edge positions and repulsed seven attacks by enemy assault groups near the settlements of Marfopol in the Zaporozhye Region, Novodonetskoye and Shevchenko in the Donetsk People’s Republic. In addition, they inflicted damage on formations of the Ukrainian army’s 72nd mechanized and 58th motorized infantry brigades, 108th, 121st, 127th and 128th territorial defense brigades near the communities of Vodyanoye, Ugledar, Urozhainoye, Staromayorskoye and Rovnopol in the Donetsk People’s Republic and Lugovskoye in the Zaporozhye Region," the ministry said."

"In the Kherson direction, Russian troops gained more advantageous positions and repulsed seven attacks by assault groups of the Ukrainian army’s 117th and 118th mechanized brigades and the 15th National Guard brigade near the settlement of Rabotino in the Zaporozhye Region," the ministry said.

Russian forces also inflicted damage by combined firepower on the personnel and military equipment of the Ukrainian army’s 28th, 65th and 118th mechanized brigades, 44th airmobile brigade, 128th mountain assault brigade, 35th marine infantry brigade and 121st territorial defense brigade near the settlements of Verbovoye, Primorskoye, Novopokrovka, Orekhov, Malaya Tokmachka and Nesteryanka in the Zaporozhye Region, Ilyinka in the Dnepropetrovsk Region, Tokarevka and Dudchany in the Kherson Region, the ministry specified.

Multiple angles are being attacked, Ukraine is really in bad shape militarily.
 

raildogg

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Provided requisite funding and will we absolutely could supply Ukraine with the munitions to defeat the Russians. This is not even a real question.
The goal is for the US to conquer Russia, that is made clear. Lockheed Martin and the other US military industrial complex are very, very happy. Their shareholders and US politicians are just as happy. Meanwhile, poor Ukrainians are being used as cannon fodder.
 

K1052

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The goal is for the US to conquer Russia, that is made clear. Lockheed Martin and the other US military industrial complex are very, very happy. Their shareholders and US politicians are just as happy. Meanwhile, poor Ukrainians are being used as cannon fodder.

Nobody wants Russia. Nobody. It's full of Russians. You could not give it away.

We all just want the Russians to stay inside Russia.
 

raildogg

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Nobody wants Russia. Nobody. It's full of Russians. You could not give it away.

We all just want the Russians to stay inside Russia.
The most natural resources in the world? I am sure the Wall Street people would love that. You know right, the people who love endless wars and making endless weapons to sell all over the world - such as to Saudi Arabia, Israel, etc. What happened to the outrage over Jamal Kashoggi? Oh yeah, you don't care. You have to arm evil countries.
 

raildogg

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No, they really aren't. This would have been over a very long time ago if Russia was fighting America, or NATO.
NATO is not a very cohesive force, remember that. They are a bunch of small and middle countries who train together but that is not one cohesive force. 3 Spanish tanks and 2 UK tanks fighting together are not going to do much. And we have seen the UK navy embarrass itself.

As for the Germans. they are pretty embarrassing:

 

GodisanAtheist

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The goal is for the US to conquer Russia, that is made clear. Lockheed Martin and the other US military industrial complex are very, very happy. Their shareholders and US politicians are just as happy. Meanwhile, poor Ukrainians are being used as cannon fodder.

-If the US conquers Russia then military industrial complex loses its boogieman. Mil-Ind complex wants Russia weak but credible as a threat. Using Ukranians to dismantle the Russian military is just how chess is played.

Staggering Russian loses for 1/10th of 1 year of US' defense budget, the math checks out.
 

K1052

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The most natural resources in the world? I am sure the Wall Street people would love that. You know right, the people who love endless wars and making endless weapons to sell all over the world - such as to Saudi Arabia, Israel, etc. What happened to the outrage over Jamal Kashoggi? Oh yeah, you don't care. You have to arm evil countries.

What part of “It is full of Russians” is difficult to understand?
 
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fskimospy

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Provocation? America has been arming Ukraine since 2015 and has military people there. America has used anti-Russia language for all these years and America wanted to bring Ukraine into NATO, through various means, including creating coups in Ukraine. Removing elected pro-Russia politicians. Yes, you are right ... absolutely no provocation at all.
1) Arming Ukraine since 2015 (meaning after Russia invaded Ukraine) lol.

2) America said mean things to Russia. lol.

It’s fine - you like genocide so long as it’s Russian genocide because you are a giant hypocrite.

The rest of us have principles, unlike you, so we don’t like genocide. You are not a moral person.
 

fskimospy

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The goal is for the US to conquer Russia, that is made clear. Lockheed Martin and the other US military industrial complex are very, very happy. Their shareholders and US politicians are just as happy. Meanwhile, poor Ukrainians are being used as cannon fodder.
What amount of drugs are you on. The US and the rest of the world have no desire to conquer Russia. It’s a backwards klepto-state that has nothing to offer other than oil and gas.

The rest of the world wants Russia to leave them alone because we have better things to do.
 

Brovane

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Well, Avdiivka has fallen and so are some of the surrounding villages. Now the Russians can either wait for the Ukrainians to come or they can advance more West. They are the ones who will decide how the war is fought because Ukraine is losing. Lockheed Martin weapons are not going to save Ukraine. They will make US politicians very wealthy but that is it. Ukrainians should realize that America is not their friend and should come to the table to talk with Russia.

Maybe China or some other country can negotiate some peace, who knows. Maybe Turkey even?

We have already discussed this. There is nothing for Ukraine to talk about with Russia because Russia has already shown Ukraine what they will do when they control Ukraine, which is rape, loot and murder Ukrainians. So the choice is either flee to a another country, die or kill as many Russian Orcs as they can defending their country. They have chosen to kill as many Orcs as they can. Russia needs to decide if they think committing genocide against Ukrainians is worth the cost in men and material they are experiencing.
 

[DHT]Osiris

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NATO is not a very cohesive force, remember that. They are a bunch of small and middle countries who train together but that is not one cohesive force. 3 Spanish tanks and 2 UK tanks fighting together are not going to do much. And we have seen the UK navy embarrass itself.

As for the Germans. they are pretty embarrassing:

Don't be a putz. The US alone has enough munitions to destroy every piece of equipment larger than an AK47 that exists in Russia, before ever dropping a boot on the ground. This is a moronic discussion to even have given the disparity between Russia and literally any power they're meekly attempting to displace.
 
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Indus

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Think we should hire this guy to play the Bandit and distract the Russkies for a while!


Eastbound and down.. loaded up and truckin..
 
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