Wonder what good old Deripaska has been up to lately. Has he been made whole yet?
Wonder what good old Deripaska has been up to lately. Has he been made whole yet?I would strongly recommended that the Euros have a very classified high level conversation amongst themselves about the political feasibility of building a shared nuclear arsenal and the IRBMs/stealth ALCMs to carry it.
I have read plans about this too but none of them seemed feasible to me as I don't know how you can effectively decentralize control among multiple nations here. Like even though the US guarantees other countries under our nuclear umbrella we retain final decision making authority as to their use.There have been various proposals for a "Eurobomb" over the decades so these conversations would not be starting from zero. They'd have to figure out a structure that works for them and negates inside interference with the deterrent or misuse. It would certainly have to satisfy the nations in Central and Eastern Europe as being credible.
South Korea, Japan, and Taiwan should also have ready to go plans for a nuclear breakout because if Trump becomes president again he will betray them all.
I have read plans about this too but none of them seemed feasible to me as I don't know how you can effectively decentralize control among multiple nations here. Like even though the US guarantees other countries under our nuclear umbrella we retain final decision making authority as to their use.
Regardless, I agree with you that those countries should be preparing their own nuclear arsenal as the events of the last 20 years or so have shown that nuclear weapons are the only real defense against aggression. There's a reason Iraq and Ukraine got invaded and North Korea did not.
Strike authority would probably have to be stripped down to a few nations (maybe 3-5?) on a rotating basis and each nation would need to be in good standing with the EU to qualify for a decision making slot (no Orban for instance). Require a simple majority for deployment in case somebody balks or a current member is decapitated. It's not optimal but likely still credible.
As for an arsenal hiding something like the French S3 in purpose built rail cars would probably be the ideal and really hard for the Russians to keep track of.
If EU cannot figure out how to make this work then maybe a further investment into ABM's might be prudent. A couple of strategically placed Aegis Ashore sites (Or something equivalent) would make Russia nuclear attack targeting much more difficult.
They'd lose it.tying it to the rail system would be a mistake, IMO.
Build something that fits in a standard shipping container. Now it is truly impossible to sort out.
It can be on rail, truck, ship. Good luck with that!
I picture a surface launched cruise missile. The lid unzips on the container, the launcher elevates and there you go.
EDIT: Re @Brovane That would also be a wicked system fo the ABM. You can have them moving about and forward, so they are more effective.
Would you "end the world" for somebody else being attacked?Single way shared would work would be a-la-NATO style. Anyone attacked requests and the rest of the pack launch the warheads
Alliances aren’t dead, that’s nonsense. There’s a reason Russia attacked Ukraine and not their other neighbors.Would you "end the world" for somebody else being attacked?
To launch almost certainly means your own death. Why would you do that?
No one will defend another, even in conventional war. Let alone nuclear war. Russia has proven this.
Alliances are dead and it is everyone for themselves. Which consequently and eventually means a vast increase in the number of nuclear weapons in the world. North Korea and Iran are merely ahead of the pack. The rest of the world will follow.
Russia has had a military presence in several neighboring countries wanted or not.There’s a reason Russia attacked Ukraine and not their other neighbors.
Yeah, it's called Crimea.Alliances aren’t dead, that’s nonsense. There’s a reason Russia attacked Ukraine and not their other neighbors.
I think i disagree; i think Russia views destructino of a democratic Ukraine because otherwise it can mean the end of Russia as it exist today. More precisely given the close ties between Ukraine and Russian people; what do you think would happen in Russia if overtime more and more 'common' or 'everyday' Russian was exposed to an alternative form of life. Currently it is mostly the elite that sees the other side side of the rainbow and the elite or at least the well to do have a lot to suffer if they even moderately rebel against the current govt but the common folks.... well all they have to suffer is the lost of a tyrant.Yeah, it's called Crimea.
Russia views Ukraine as existential for the Black Sea Fleet. Not to mention second largest country in Europe. All that land and resource to exploit. All those people to subjugate. Target rich environment. Plus their rejection of Russia's corrupt control over them in 2014 kind of forced Russia's hand. Before that Ukraine was just another Belarus. In Nov 2016 we showed our weakness, but Trump's defeat in 2020 set the war campaign into motion. No more useful stooge to ensure steady progress against NATO. Was time for Vlad the Butcher to take more direct action.
Ukraine is a vital first step in growing Russia and flooding Europe with refugees. If Europe can be further destabilized and the US goes back in the tank.... NATO will be attacked, and not all its members will be defending. Some may even assist Russia.
Then there is the US's pledge to Asia.
You think Taiwan, Japan, and South Korea can count on us to protect them? Lies.
Yeah, it's called Crimea.
Russia views Ukraine as existential for the Black Sea Fleet. Not to mention second largest country in Europe. All that land and resource to exploit. All those people to subjugate. Target rich environment. Plus their rejection of Russia's corrupt control over them in 2014 kind of forced Russia's hand. Before that Ukraine was just another Belarus. In Nov 2016 we showed our weakness, but Trump's defeat in 2020 set the war campaign into motion. No more useful stooge to ensure steady progress against NATO. Was time for Vlad the Butcher to take more direct action.
Ukraine is a vital first step in growing Russia and flooding Europe with refugees. If Europe can be further destabilized and the US goes back in the tank.... NATO will be attacked, and not all its members will be defending. Some may even assist Russia.
Then there is the US's pledge to Asia.
You think Taiwan, Japan, and South Korea can count on us to protect them? Lies.
The countries bordering Russia disagree with you. What do you think you know that they don’t?Yeah, it's called Crimea.
Russia views Ukraine as existential for the Black Sea Fleet. Not to mention second largest country in Europe. All that land and resource to exploit. All those people to subjugate. Target rich environment. Plus their rejection of Russia's corrupt control over them in 2014 kind of forced Russia's hand. Before that Ukraine was just another Belarus. In Nov 2016 we showed our weakness, but Trump's defeat in 2020 set the war campaign into motion. No more useful stooge to ensure steady progress against NATO. Was time for Vlad the Butcher to take more direct action.
Ukraine is a vital first step in growing Russia and flooding Europe with refugees. If Europe can be further destabilized and the US goes back in the tank.... NATO will be attacked, and not all its members will be defending. Some may even assist Russia.
Then there is the US's pledge to Asia.
You think Taiwan, Japan, and South Korea can count on us to protect them? Lies.
I don't think you comprehend how small countries are in Europe. If russia launches a big one, it will certainly spill over to the neighbours. The Cernobal was just a accident and it affected a lot of neighboring countries, in the case of a determined attack, I'm very sure the radioactive clouds will cover many countries. So in the case Russia attacks with nuculars, there is no danger "we" are gonna "end the world", it has already started. And yes, I'd be ok to launch some MIRVs on Moscow and St Petersburg, that would end all russia as it is now, if they do launch first. These are for defence only, for MAD, not to attack. If Russia does attack, then it deserves to die also, because we'd already be dying here.Would you "end the world" for somebody else being attacked?
To launch almost certainly means your own death. Why would you do that?